Guys who use prostitutes

[Peikko 1,575]

Seriously, you're going to compare prostitution to shelf stacking?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I agree that it should be legalized. Why does any person go into any particular line of work? Why should lines of work be restricted by the government because some people don't like them? Do you think everyone working at WalMart dreamed of a career as a cashier at WalMart? How many people are coal miners because of the glamour? If an uneducated person (woman or man) enters prostitution because they have no other skills (or as a stripper, etc.) I do not celebrate the fact, I celebrate (or would if it were legal) that people have that choice to enter that business and make decent wages.

In fact, in most places it is not a matter of choice at all because some judgemental people have ruled it out. I am also in favor of good education to improve choices and have spent a LOT of my time and money to working toward a good education for my children (and now my wife also). It is one of my great joys in life that they are getting excellent educations.

I make no judgements about prostitutes or people that use them. None of my concern, I really will not trouble myself with what someone else does in their bedroom or a hotel room, or wherever. I simply do not care. If what people do is no harm to other people, who am I to care or judge? As many people would think the same as you about Gays, lesbians, blacks, Jews, ...whatever. Choose your bigotry.

What if your friend of many years told you he was Gay? What if he was married and told you that he and his wife are into S&M clubs or Swinging? Then what? It would be OK? Why? Because no money changes hands? Why would that be OK, but not that he patronizes prostitutes? I mean, I have friends that play golf. I don't. I do not play golf with my friends that play golf. I would not go to prostitutes with my friends that use prostitutes. If he told you he smoked pot would you think he is a lowlife? That is illegal also and lots of people think drug users are lowlifes...you?

The first bolded part is exactly what is wrong with libertarianism - you adopt an amoral stance which is how you are able to relativise prostitution with being gay or with swinging and S&M clubs.

The second bolded part - the things you mentioned ARE choices, more so than prostitution at any rate. You refuse to acknowledge or even address the point that a woman who sells her body for the pleasure of another might not being doing it as a matter of choice, but rather because of a lack of them. Why would you do that?

[SMOKE 1,426]

six i need a rundown on 9 pages worth of 'my friend bangs hookers & i don't like it. should i be his friend?'...i'm a busy man i don't have time for the 4-5 pages of personal snipes people are making at each other. whats the consensus opinion of VJ?

[Empress of Groovy 373]

six i need a rundown on 9 pages worth of 'my friend bangs hookers & i don't like it. should i be his friend?'...i'm a busy man i don't have time for the 4-5 pages of personal snipes people are making at each other. whats the consensus opinion of VJ?

Read it. Learn it. Live it.

[ValerieA 350]

given that, you musta really been upset about tiger woods.

if the said "disposable" is a mutual agreement i.e. no one is being forced into this, all free will and so on, i'm not seeing a problem with it. then again, maybe i'm turning liberal.

charles is turning liburl.

[ValerieA 350]

That's not really true though is it. Unless you live in an area where prostitution is legal and subject to regulation, you simply don't know who is being forced into it.

In fact, the only person who you categorically know is not being forced into it is the customer.

This is true. YOU don't know who is being forced into it, either. People make choices (I know, I am going to be in Gary's arena with this). They may have been forced into it - largely, by choices they made. They are the only ones who can save themselves. Saying that they had to because they had no skills and no money - well, there are other choices. I do not judge their choices. If they ask me for help, I will help. Otherwise, they have to get themselves out of that life, if they want to.

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

charles is turning liburl.

scary, eh?

[Gemmie 142]

There was a woman on TV a few months back that was a legal prostitute in Nevada, and she was pregnant. She felt she had no choice but to sell her body because "no one will employ me while pregnant". That is absolutely ridiculous, and I do believe that if your reasons for doing so are to do with lack of education and skills, that's nothing more than an excuse.

The cases where women end up abused by their parents, becoming homeless, taken in by a pimp, addicted to drugs, and turn to prostitution to fund their habit, I have more sympathy for. Sure, you could argue that it was still their choice to try the drug and to pay for it that way. And even though I'm certain that I never would make those choices myself in those circumstances, you cannot honestly say that it was her right-minded decision to become a prostitute in the same way that a Walmart cashier chose their own job.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'm less inclined to judge the prostitute than the pervert who pays to sexually abuse women.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

If prostitution were legal would you want to be best friends?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Nothing to do with legality.

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

I'm less inclined to judge the prostitute than the pervert who pays to sexually abuse women.

if they are having "the usual" is that sexually abusing the prostitute?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Yep.

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

dang, next time i have sex with my wife i'll have to apologize for sexually abusing her.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

dang, next time i have sex with my wife i'll have to apologize for sexually abusing her.

Would that be called guilt sex?