Guys who use prostitutes

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'm quite shocked you stayed friends with him after that.

Why? It was a victimless crime - in fact it wasn't even a crime at all. It was perfectly legal. Unethical, but legal.

To me, using women as disposable sex objects is more questionable than using the letter of the law for financial advantage.

[Ban Hammer 13,491]

To me, using women as disposable sex objects is more questionable than using the letter of the law for financial advantage.

given that, you musta really been upset about tiger woods.

if the said "disposable" is a mutual agreement i.e. no one is being forced into this, all free will and so on, i'm not seeing a problem with it. then again, maybe i'm turning liberal.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Why? It was a victimless crime - in fact it wasn't even a crime at all. It was perfectly legal. Unethical, but legal.

To me, using women as disposable sex objects is more questionable than using the letter of the law for financial advantage.

+1

Have to agree with you on this one. If a legal loophole was exploited, it isn't a crime. I find using a prostitute a lot more despicable.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

given that, you musta really been upset about tiger woods.

if the said "disposable" is a mutual agreement i.e. no one is being forced into this, all free will and so on, i'm not seeing a problem with it. then again, maybe i'm turning liberal.

That's not really true though is it. Unless you live in an area where prostitution is legal and subject to regulation, you simply don't know who is being forced into it.

In fact, the only person who you categorically know is not being forced into it is the customer.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Prostitution is sort of legal in the UK btw.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Prostitution is sort of legal in the UK btw.

Technically it isn't. It's one of those things that the cops will informally not bother to pursue (in some areas). The police do raid brothels in residential neighbourhoods. The outgoing government also passed a law recently to the effect that if you were arrested with a prostitute and it turned out that the woman had been trafficked, that the "client" would be charged with a trafficking offence.

[Ban Hammer 13,491]

That's not really true though is it. Unless you live in an area where prostitution is legal and subject to regulation, you simply don't know who is being forced into it.

In fact, the only person who you categorically know is not being forced into it is the customer.

i'd suspect that regulated or not, one does not ask too many questions about the individual's specifics nor would they be welcomed.

it seems to me that you're pretty much looking for validation to end your friendship with him, and you're also bothered quite a bit by that money issue in the past.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

My understanding was that paying for sex is legal if the person isn't forced. Whats illegal is advertising in public, running a brothel etc.

Have you seen billie piper in secret diary of a call girl?

[Fandango 1,440]

Then 'steal' isn't the right word, is it?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

i'd suspect that regulated or not, one does not ask too many questions about the individual's specifics nor would they be welcomed.

it seems to me that you're pretty much looking for validation to end your friendship with him, and you're also bothered quite a bit by that money issue in the past.

I don't need validation - I've already made up my mind, I was just curious what people here thought about the situation.

BTW - I was never bothered by the money thing. The prostitute thing together with that confirms (to me) that he is completely unethical.

Then 'steal' isn't the right word, is it?

Sure it is. He took money on the promise of paying it back when he had no intention of doing so. He just found a way of doing it with no legal consequences.

[Fandango 1,440]

If he 'stole' it from credit card companies and banks, it's not a victimless crime. We all pay.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If he 'stole' it from credit card companies and banks, it's not a victimless crime. We all pay.

I'm sure we do, but not visibly enough to say "you stole from me".

[Peikko 1,575]

I am guessing he's one of these people who seems really dynamic and interesting from a distance, but is awfully shallow on the inside - that doesn't seem well suited to the sort of person you are.

As to prostitution that's the big question, who is doing it because they 'want' to and who is doing it because they have to? You would surely really only want to indulge in it if you felt that the person you went to was doing it willingly and by choice and doubt such people are two a penny. Most sexual appetites can be fulfilled by willing participants so I don't really buy all the reasons that people use for prostitution - it's not like he has to choose to stay with one partner either in this day and age, and with the internet, hooking up with someone like minded probably isn't as hard as it once was when one's pool of partners was necessarily much more restricted.

Anyway, odd story and interesting moral dilemma.

[Mags 112]

Call me judgemental, but if I found out that a man I was dating, married to, or about to date, used prostitutes then he'd be out of the door.

As previously mentioned, his chances of carrying a sexually transmitted disease are higher than a normal person's. Wrap it up with a bow and sugar coat it all you will, but this really is the truth.

Some prostitutes do take care of their sexual health, I'm sure, but the majority probably don't. And many men are not as insistent on a condom as they should be.

Part of me also feels that, if the relationship a man has with his wife is good, then he shouldn't seek it elsewhere, especially with a prostitute. There is something fundamentally wrong there.

[^_^ 5,021]

Interesting thread. I don't think I could share in Madhouse's indignation because I have friends who do things a lot worse than see prostitutes. I have friends who are here illegally, who commit tax fraud on a regular basis, who are fast food franchise owners and pay their people below minimum wage under the table, who beat their wives, who steal expensive enterprise software, etc. I haven't cut anyone off, I don't think I'd cut someone off for this either.