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I don't see how I'm getting in the middle of the nutters... I can make a comment about how ridiculous one group of nutters position is without taking up the cause of another group of nutters.

I will say that when someone wants to present an argument in support of amnesty or against enforcing the current immigration laws at any level and they are simply parroting the "nutters' chorus" it's a good indication that they aren't worth my time to listen or respond to.

For anyone who says the current laws are unenforceable I say "Try it and show me how unenforceable they are".

For anyone who says the current laws won't fix the problem I say "Try it and show me how it made the problem worse".

For anyone who says the current laws are wrong I say "Show me how you would suggest fixing them".

"At least the "other nutters" are standing up for current laws to be enforced, just as extreme as the Brown Berets but not as nutty" is what you said.

I haven't said anything about amnesty. I'm talking about the OP - which has clearly been floated to get condemnation of the Brown Berets. They deserve condemnation, absolutely - but when the reference point involves two angry mobs of extremists shouting the odds at each other - they should be left to get on with it while the debate goes on without them.

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"At least the "other nutters" are standing up for current laws to be enforced, just as extreme as the Brown Berets but not as nutty" is what you said.

I haven't said anything about amnesty. I'm talking about the OP - which has clearly been floated to get condemnation of the Brown Berets. They deserve condemnation, absolutely - but when the reference point involves two angry mobs of extremists shouting the odds at each other - they should be left to get on with it while the debate goes on without them.

Actually, I thought I minimized both groups as being just as extreme. The only distinction I made between them is that one side is standing on a platform based on an argument that doesn't hold water whereas the other is supporting enforcing current laws and in my opinion that makes them just a little less nutty. I never said that one side was anywhere in the realm of being meaningful to the actual debate, in fact I doubt either side could participate in an intelligent debate on the subject.

Maybe the reference point is what it is because you don't see them showing up anywhere else. That is enough for me to disregard them regardless of what they're saying, the actions speak louder than anyone shouting into a megaphone.

Let's face it the BBs arrived on the scene looking to incite the opposition not engage them in any real way. If the other guys were showing up at a BB demonstration and acted the same way then I'd say in that instance the other guys were being nuttier than the BBs. BTW, I'm not saying that the other guys don't do that, just that it's the BBs doing it in this instance. The balance of Nuttiness can swing either way.

This is one of those cases where you look at it laugh and say "Well I guess she's the Queen Nutter for now" but understand that the King/Queen Nutter title gets passed around a lot and while they may be entertaining to watch, I get bored of them quicker than a slinky!

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Exactly!

If whites can scream browns to go back to Mexico or India, then browns can scream the same thing. The thing to realise here is that we all immigrants to America. White or brown. Only the natives Americans are natives here. Even them too came from Africa many, many thousands of years ago. So this argument of going back to where ever one came from originally doesn't hold water. Everyone was an illegal to America once.

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If whites can scream browns to go back to Mexico or India, then browns can scream the same thing. The thing to realise here is that we all immigrants to America. White or brown. Only the natives Americans are natives here. Even them too came from Africa many, many thousands of years ago. So this argument of going back to where ever one came from originally doesn't hold water. Everyone was an illegal to America once.

Except we are not living in once upon a time. We are dealing with reality. The southwestern states are part of the United States. They are not part of Mexico, part of Spain, part of the Navaho nation. The United States took land by purchase, by force, by war. That is the way the world is. God did not parcel out the world and say this is for white people, this is for black people, etc. Civilizations have fought since the dawn of man to claim what is theirs. So when a Mexican national, (read: not a Mexican citizen living in Los Angeles 170 years ago)is here illegally, guess what? send his #### back home...to Mexico.

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And,

If a UK illegal is here, guess what...Send him back home too!

But, the reality is, he won't get picked on as much because he's white.

Except we are not living in once upon a time. We are dealing with reality. The southwestern states are part of the United States. They are not part of Mexico, part of Spain, part of the Navaho nation. The United States took land by purchase, by force, by war. That is the way the world is. God did not parcel out the world and say this is for white people, this is for black people, etc. Civilizations have fought since the dawn of man to claim what is theirs. So when a Mexican national, (read: not a Mexican citizen living in Los Angeles 170 years ago)is here illegally, guess what? send his #### back home...to Mexico.

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And,

If a UK illegal is here, guess what...Send him back home too!

But, the reality is, he won't get picked on as much because he's white.

True, but look at all the hell John Lennon had to go through. I bet Nixon wouldn't have deported a Mexican protesting the Viet Nam war.

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And,

If a UK illegal is here, guess what...Send him back home too!

But, the reality is, he won't get picked on as much because he's white.

Yeah but that's more to do with that large numbers are coming from Mexico and that's the hot topic right now. If there was somehow mass illegal immigration comming from the UK that wasn't being controlled people would get angry about that too, and because the skin colour is still white... imagine a bunch of illegal UK immigrants standing outside Home Depot waiting for work. They might get jumped on only when someone overheard their accent instead :P

The Cornish were getting very angry and defensive when members of the EU were allowed to settle freely, for some reason a large number of Poles came to stay. I heard from numerous different angry sources that they were getting help with councel housing before locals. It's very hard for Cornish people to get housing because the wages are low but unemployment and prices/house prices are high so there has been a lot of resentment, it could have been any group of people reguardless of colour you get the same thing...because locals are feeling negative effects from it.

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True, but look at all the hell John Lennon had to go through. I bet Nixon wouldn't have deported a Mexican protesting the Viet Nam war.

Interesting experiment.

The Beatles were English. It wasn't Los Escarabajos from México, so that's a bet you'd lose on grounds that they'd have likely been deported much faster than Lennon could have been.

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If whites can scream browns to go back to Mexico or India, then browns can scream the same thing. The thing to realise here is that we all immigrants to America. White or brown. Only the natives Americans are natives here. Even them too came from Africa many, many thousands of years ago. So this argument of going back to where ever one came from originally doesn't hold water. Everyone was an illegal to America once.

i don't think i have ever seen a more ridiculous post. i don't know if you are stupid, but this post is stupid.

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If whites can scream browns to go back to Mexico or India, then browns can scream the same thing. The thing to realise here is that we all immigrants to America. White or brown. Only the natives Americans are natives here. Even them too came from Africa many, many thousands of years ago. So this argument of going back to where ever one came from originally doesn't hold water. Everyone was an illegal to America once.
Latinos are NOT brown, but "pink" aka metis (combo of white and Native--and lumpen majority of them speak European language Spanish, and nary a word of any Native language, though many of them like to claim to be indigenous).

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ALIPAC is releasing a new video today that Americans are unlikely to see on the major networks since it displays overt racism and militancy against Americans and Tea Party supporters at the hands of illegal alien supporters who aggressively announce "You're too white to be American! Go back to Europe!"

While there is so much talk in the media about the NAACP and Michelle Obama's false assertions that the Tea Party is racist, combined with news that the White House moved to protect the New Black Panther members. These same members were previously filmed screaming 'kill some crackers... kill some of their babies' and threatened white voters with weapons in Philadelphia, so it is unlikely you will see this video on CBS, ABC, CNN, or NBC!

Awesome video....

Latino KKK says Whites Don't Belong in America Go Back To Europe, go back to Germany, go back to Germany.....what a crazy dumb bit**....OMG!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5YI2bFd5LQ

"We call on Americans of all races and walks of life to oppose those who use racism and militancy to oppose Arizona's SB 1070," said William Gheen of ALIPAC. "If a Tea Party supporter said anything like this, every network in America would broadcast it. Since the perpetrators are radical leftist illegal alien supporters, and the victims are predominantly white, this video will be censored on most networks and the White House and Justice Department will take no action to protect the civil rights of Americans fighting for secure borders."

To see more examples of the violence, threats, and overt racism being directed at Americans, please visit our Youtube channel at http://www.Youtube.com/ALIPAC1

To get involved in the American struggle against illegal immigration, Comprehensive Immigration Reform Amnesty, and the growing anarchy in America, please visit www.ALIPAC.us

http://www.alipac.us/article-5479-thread-1-0.html

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Latinos are NOT brown, but "pink" aka metis (combo of white and Native--and lumpen majority of them speak European language Spanish, and nary a word of any Native language, though many of them like to claim to be indigenous).

many latinos from mexico and adjacent countries have a significant african ancestral component. this adds to the color.

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Maybe the reference point is what it is because you don't see them showing up anywhere else. That is enough for me to disregard them regardless of what they're saying, the actions speak louder than anyone shouting into a megaphone.

Let's face it the BBs arrived on the scene looking to incite the opposition not engage them in any real way. If the other guys were showing up at a BB demonstration and acted the same way then I'd say in that instance the other guys were being nuttier than the BBs. BTW, I'm not saying that the other guys don't do that, just that it's the BBs doing it in this instance. The balance of Nuttiness can swing either way.

Talking into a megaphone when someone is at arm's length is really obnoxious and I remember my ringing when they had phony "demonstrators" when I was in an Army exercise.

The woman wearing a brown shirt screaming about Nazis didn't seem to get the irony of the situation but she was hoping someone was going to swing on her with the cops standing nearby. Wading into the opposition and tauting them isn't smart and I wouldn't recommend an anti-illegal immigration advocate walk through a crowd of illegal advocates.

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Latinos are NOT brown, but "pink" aka metis (combo of white and Native--and lumpen majority of them speak European language Spanish, and nary a word of any Native language, though many of them like to claim to be indigenous).

You might want to reconsider your opinion based on actual genetic evidence linking most latino populations to indigenous roots.

Even those that seem to be mostly European.

Then again, considering why Spanish is the lingua franca of most latino populations, head to a decent history book. No self-hating there, and none needed either.

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