How do you stop the K-1 Visa processing?

[MRStee 19]

Yes it should when taxpayers could wind up having to pay for your heart. I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but I don't think it's a good idea when someone can barely support themselves to then bring another person who will be dependent on their income for at least a few months. I hope everyone here who needs a co-sponsor is able to find one willing to help out. But I don't want my tax dollars to become the co-sponsor for people who weren't financially able to support themselves.

Well said!

[ValerieA 350]

I want to clear up some misinformation in this thread. The OP clearly stated:

We would get married in September, I would return to Europe and we would then file for the K-3.

The below posts are incorrect. It is OK to come to the US on a tourist visa and get married. People do it all the time. I did it, I lived near Toronto and got married to my USC in New York State. I had ties to Canada to make it obvious to the border guard that I was returning to Canada. What is illegal is entering the US with the intention of immigrating on a tourist visa. As stated by the OP, they are going to get married, and then she is going to return to Europe, which is appropriate.

So are you talking about the beneficiary coming to America and the pair of you marrying and then applying for a K3? If so, you are breaking the law, bringing your partner to America to intentionally get married is illegal.

If you get caught out coming to the States and then marrying you are committing fraud, if you do get caught out you will screw up all of your chances of getting a visa anyway.

[candn 17]

I want to clear up some misinformation in this thread. The OP clearly stated:

The below posts are incorrect. It is OK to come to the US on a tourist visa and get married. People do it all the time. I did it, I lived near Toronto and got married to my USC in New York State. I had ties to Canada to make it obvious to the border guard that I was returning to Canada. What is illegal is entering the US with the intention of immigrating on a tourist visa. As stated by the OP, they are going to get married, and then she is going to return to Europe, which is appropriate.

I think people are referring to THIS particular couple based on the topics they have posted. I have to agree with the others.

[ValerieA 350]

I think people are referring to THIS particular couple based on the topics they have posted. I have to agree with the others.

On what basis? At no point has either person indicated they are planning on entering the US and doing an AOS.

[candn 17]

On what basis? At no point has either person indicated they are planning on entering the US and doing an AOS.

Based on filing a K-1 then pulling it midways through processing. Conveniently getting a tourist visa and then getting married. One minute not wanting to marry then back to wanting to marry. Wanting to move money around just so the petitioners income looks good. It all looks suspicious. I am not basing it on this thread but on all the threads that have been posted. Maybe it's just me but if I were the one handling this case, I would be very skeptical if they did all of this and prior to applying. That's just me. I just think it might be best to wait the 5 or so months for the K-1. I don't profess to know much about this but working with legal documents as part of my career, I tend to be very suspect of potential fraudulent info.

[slangofoil 50]

Based on filing a K-1 then pulling it midways through processing. Conveniently getting a tourist visa and then getting married. One minute not wanting to marry then back to wanting to marry. Wanting to move money around just so the petitioners income looks good. It all looks suspicious. I am not basing it on this thread but on all the threads that have been posted. Maybe it's just me but if I were the one handling this case, I would be very skeptical if they did all of this and prior to applying. That's just me. I just think it might be best to wait the 5 or so months for the K-1. I don't profess to know much about this but working with legal documents as part of my career, I tend to be very suspect of potential fraudulent info.

If you work with legal documents you should know that details are important.

SuicideBlonde (not the OP, but the OP's fiance) said they planned to get married, have the foreign spouse go back to Europe, and then apply for the K3. That indicates no intent to AOS immediately after the marriage.

Additionally, propagating incorrect information, whatever the context, is a bad idea. It's not illegal or fraud to enter as a visitor and get married. Period. It's only illegal to enter with immigrant intent on a non-immigrant visa, and apply for AOS. People should be corrected when they give incorrect information so that it doesn't result in misinformation being passed around. The threads here are not only for the benefit of the OP, but for all readers, who may be in different situations.

[candn 17]

If you work with legal documents you should know that details are important.

SuicideBlonde (not the OP, but the OP's fiance) said they planned to get married, have the foreign spouse go back to Europe, and then apply for the K3. That indicates no intent to AOS immediately after the marriage.

Additionally, propagating incorrect information, whatever the context, is a bad idea. It's not illegal or fraud to enter as a visitor and get married. Period. It's only illegal to enter with immigrant intent on a non-immigrant visa, and apply for AOS. People should be corrected when they give incorrect information so that it doesn't result in misinformation being passed around. The threads here are not only for the benefit of the OP, but for all readers, who may be in different situations.

I can agree with what you said. I was just stating how I read the comments from others. I believe they, too, were looking at the big picture of this particular case. Thanks.

[lesleysizeland 0]

I can agree with what you said. I was just stating how I read the comments from others. I believe they, too, were looking at the big picture of this particular case. Thanks.

I am just putting my two penny's worth in......Slangofoil you are correct when you say the fraud is when they stay in the States so i am sorry about misinforming these people. I just do not understand why they would not have looked into this before they went ahead and filed for the K1.

Secondly, i am not sure why anyone is still replying to this thread, these people do not have enough finance to gain the visa, are not actually taking the advice of the VJers, are asking VJers to sponsor them, are breaking up one minute then head over heels in love the next. Candn, i agree with you, i think this looks suspicious. Whatever they choose to do i wish them well.

Just my opinion..............

[SuicideBlonde 0]

Lesley,

I can see how it may all seem suspicious to an outsider, but things get a bit complex when the petitioner cannot meet 125% of the poverty guidelines. We want to be together and will do anything possible to achieve that goal. That includes going off on the wildest tangents and brainstorming them with you guys. Yes, we have had our problems together, more so than some but certainly less than others, and yes, it probably should not have spilt onto VJ. I apologize for my part in the matter, and hope you will let it rest from now on. Schmoopy and I have known each other for 2 years, 6 months and 28 days now. We can both get very emotional sometimes but we have stood by each other through thick and thin and we intend to do that for a very long time to come. We have already talked about a house, kids, etc. I even brought up the fine china with her this morning. I agree that the rules are in place for a reason but I think it is not very logical to put the burden of proof solely on the petitioner when the beneficiary has plenty of liquid assets and real estate in the U.S. , worth more than the $7528 * 3 required to make up the difference, which the U.S. government could get their hands on if need be. Things are the way they are though, but I hope they will consider all that when we will send in the I-134 in the course of our K-1 journey.

[SuicideBlonde 0]

Yes it should when taxpayers could wind up having to pay for your heart. I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but I don't think it's a good idea when someone can barely support themselves to then bring another person who will be dependent on their income for at least a few months. I hope everyone here who needs a co-sponsor is able to find one willing to help out. But I don't want my tax dollars to become the co-sponsor for people who weren't financially able to support themselves.

New Beginnings,

I can support myself perfectly fine, thank you very much. And my fiancee can support herself perfectly fine as well, for that matter. I have $28k in the bank and a duplex occupied by renters - in the United States. I have been paying thousands of dollars in house taxes, as much as any other property owning American, even though I do not live there right now. So in a way I have been co-sponsoring you.

[schmoopy 0]

LOL--no joke!! He is supporting you and probably makes more money than you do and I can support myself fine on my own!!

[Darnell 8,478]

Someone here pointed out that we should be able to use my personal assets towards the K-1, given that it is all in the U.S.

That was ME, in another topic, with the caveat that YOU should check in with the EMBASSY IV Unit, ask if they ALLOW SELF-SPONSERING on an I-134 for a K-1 visa. I never said 'should be able' - I was adamant that you inquire.

You really should do that, ya know. Should clear up a lot of silliness.

Going forward, if you ARE allowed to self-sponser, then you've overcome even more silliness.

INQUIRE.

and Good Luck !

Edited July 24, 2010 by Darnell

[SuicideBlonde 0]

That was ME, in another topic, with the caveat that YOU should check in with the EMBASSY IV Unit, ask if they ALLOW SELF-SPONSERING on an I-134 for a K-1 visa. I never said 'should be able' - I was adamant that you inquire.

You really should do that, ya know. Should clear up a lot of silliness.

Going forward, if you ARE allowed to self-sponser, then you've overcome even more silliness.

INQUIRE.

and Good Luck !

I already pointed out a number of times that I did in fact inquire and that they told me that they do generally not make any exceptions but that it is totally up to the Department of State and not the embassy itself whether or not self-sponsoring will be allowed. Hence, we did not learn anything really and remain in the dark. How would you feel if you were in the same situation? What's silly is that two people who want to be together and definitely have enough assets between the two of them have to live with such uncertainty. It's a good thing to know that we will be together before the end of next year though, no matter what.

Thanks for your reply, and your concern. It's much appreciated, as is everybody else's input.

[Darnell 8,478]

You've inquired with the Immigrant Visa Unit at some US Embassy? Really? OK ! My apologies, I missed yer report, in toto.

[lesleysizeland 0]

Lesley,

I can see how it may all seem suspicious to an outsider, but things get a bit complex when the petitioner cannot meet 125% of the poverty guidelines. We want to be together and will do anything possible to achieve that goal. That includes going off on the wildest tangents and brainstorming them with you guys. Yes, we have had our problems together, more so than some but certainly less than others, and yes, it probably should not have spilt onto VJ. I apologize for my part in the matter, and hope you will let it rest from now on. Schmoopy and I have known each other for 2 years, 6 months and 28 days now. We can both get very emotional sometimes but we have stood by each other through thick and thin and we intend to do that for a very long time to come. We have already talked about a house, kids, etc. I even brought up the fine china with her this morning. I agree that the rules are in place for a reason but I think it is not very logical to put the burden of proof solely on the petitioner when the beneficiary has plenty of liquid assets and real estate in the U.S. , worth more than the $7528 * 3 required to make up the difference, which the U.S. government could get their hands on if need be. Things are the way they are though, but I hope they will consider all that when we will send in the I-134 in the course of our K-1 journey.

I do agree with you and i think that if the foreign fiance(e) can prove that they have money and that they wont become a burden on the American government then i think this should be allowed.

Whatever happens with you guys and whatever anyone thinks i do wish you well and i do hope that your fiance visa is approved. Good Luck with whatever route you choose to take.