H'WOOD MORONS

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I could respect your position more if you would balance out your outrage for both liberal and conservative celebs

Uhhh, how many conservative celebrities are there again...?

Here are just a few (excuse my crappy copy 'n paste):

Kim Alexis

Joe Gibbs

Tom Osbourne

India Allen

Mel Gibson

Marie Osmond

Scott Baio

Tom Glavine

Stephen Baldwin Amy Grant

Ernie Banks Kelsey Grammar Joe Paterno

Charles Barkley Fred Grandy Richard Petty

Carlos Beltran Lee Greenwood Mary Lou Retton

Clint Black Dorothy Hamill Nolan Ryan

Craig Biggio Angie Harmon Pat Sajak

Pat Boone Matt Hassellbeck Pete Sampras

Bobby Bowden Patrcia Heaton Rick Schroeder

Bruce Boxleitner Charlton Heston Curt Schilling

Lara Flynn Boyle Rachel Hunter Arnold Schwarzenegger

Brooks and Dunn Kathy Ireland Jason Seahorn

Shirley Jones

Dean Cain Toby Keith Tom Seaver

James Caviezel Jim Kelly Tom Selleck

Donovan Chapman Kid Rock Jessica Simpson

Kenny Chesney Don King Ricky Skaggs

Mark Chestnut Bobby Knight Michael W. Smith

Tom Clancy Bernie Kosar Chris Spielman

Chris Collinsworth Steve Largent Rebecca St. James

Robert Conrad Cheryl Ladd Roger Staubach

Billy Ray Cyrus Larry the Cabble Guy Ben Stein

Charlie Daniels John "Bradshaw" Layfield Kerri Strug

Bo Derek Al Leiter Lynn Swann

Mike Ditka Heather Locklear Fred Thompson

Shannon Doherty Davis Love Travis Tritt

Adam Dunn Susan Lucci Ronan Tynan

Dale Earnhardt Jr. Loretta Lynn Bobby Valentine

Clint Eastwood Karl Malone Sela Ward

John Elway Martina McBride J.C. Watts

Dina Merrill

Shawn Michaels

R. Lee Ermey Dennis Miller Hank Williams, Jr.

Gloria Estefan Zell Miller Bruce Willis

Sara Evans Gerald McRaney Lee Ann Womack

Chris Evert Anthony Munoz James Woods

Brett Favre Wayne Newton Darryl Worley

Bob Feller Jack Nicklaus Steve Young

Ric Flair Chuck Norris Zig Zigler

Crystal Gale Ted Nugent Barry Zito

The Gatlin Brothers

i lost the source

In other words a fair bunch of people, some of whom are, or have been in significant positions of power:

Ronald Reagan

Arnold Schwarzenegger (CA Governor)

Clint Eastwood (was mayor of a city a few years back)

Charlton Heston (president/chairman of the NRA)

Edited August 14, 2006 by erekose

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I could respect your position more if you would balance out your outrage for both liberal and conservative celebs

Uhhh, how many conservative celebrities are there again...?

Here are just a few (excuse my crappy copy 'n paste):

Kim Alexis

Joe Gibbs

Tom Osbourne

India Allen

Mel Gibson

Marie Osmond

Scott Baio

Tom Glavine

Stephen Baldwin Amy Grant

Ernie Banks Kelsey Grammar Joe Paterno

Charles Barkley Fred Grandy Richard Petty

Carlos Beltran Lee Greenwood Mary Lou Retton

Clint Black Dorothy Hamill Nolan Ryan

Craig Biggio Angie Harmon Pat Sajak

Pat Boone Matt Hassellbeck Pete Sampras

Bobby Bowden Patrcia Heaton Rick Schroeder

Bruce Boxleitner Charlton Heston Curt Schilling

Lara Flynn Boyle Rachel Hunter Arnold Schwarzenegger

Brooks and Dunn Kathy Ireland Jason Seahorn

Shirley Jones

Dean Cain Toby Keith Tom Seaver

James Caviezel Jim Kelly Tom Selleck

Donovan Chapman Kid Rock Jessica Simpson

Kenny Chesney Don King Ricky Skaggs

Mark Chestnut Bobby Knight Michael W. Smith

Tom Clancy Bernie Kosar Chris Spielman

Chris Collinsworth Steve Largent Rebecca St. James

Robert Conrad Cheryl Ladd Roger Staubach

Billy Ray Cyrus Larry the Cabble Guy Ben Stein

Charlie Daniels John "Bradshaw" Layfield Kerri Strug

Bo Derek Al Leiter Lynn Swann

Mike Ditka Heather Locklear Fred Thompson

Shannon Doherty Davis Love Travis Tritt

Adam Dunn Susan Lucci Ronan Tynan

Dale Earnhardt Jr. Loretta Lynn Bobby Valentine

Clint Eastwood Karl Malone Sela Ward

John Elway Martina McBride J.C. Watts

Dina Merrill

Shawn Michaels

R. Lee Ermey Dennis Miller Hank Williams, Jr.

Gloria Estefan Zell Miller Bruce Willis

Sara Evans Gerald McRaney Lee Ann Womack

Chris Evert Anthony Munoz James Woods

Brett Favre Wayne Newton Darryl Worley

Bob Feller Jack Nicklaus Steve Young

Ric Flair Chuck Norris Zig Zigler

Crystal Gale Ted Nugent Barry Zito

The Gatlin Brothers

i lost the source

In other words a fair bunch of people, some of whom are, or have been in significant positions of power:

Ronald Reagan

Arnold Schwarzenegger (CA Governor)

Clint Eastwood (was mayor of a city a few years back)

Charlton Heston (president/chairman of the NRA)

...those dirty Hollyweird loonies and their politics...tsk, tsk, tsk.

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Marie Osmond - can we give her to the liberals? please?

Scott Baio - no way!

Amy Grant - no surprise

Kelsey Grammar - big surprise

Richard Petty - well of course!

Mary Lou Retton - she does backflips and votes conservative

Dorothy Hamill - republicans on ice?

Charlton Heston - and the 11th commandment - thou shalt use semi jacketed hollow points!

Arnold Schwarzenegger - conan the republican!

Tom Selleck - didn't expect this one

Jessica Simpson - no way!

Don King - what!!!! omg!!!!

Tom Clancy - not surprising there

Larry the Cabble Guy - oh brother

Charlie Daniels - yahooo! the devil went down to georgia he was looking for an election to steal....

Bo Derek - yay! we got the 10!

Mike Ditka - and coach is always right

Heather Locklear and Shannon Doherty - acckkkkkk

Dale Earnhardt Jr. - not surprising, kinda goes with racing cars

Gloria Estefan - that did surprise me too

Ric Flair and Chuck Norris? - hmmm, someone better pm ric flair!

Ted Nugent - lol. i've seen something about him recently, have to dig that up

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Thank you for that list. And now let me introduce to you the LIBERAL celebs. (ignore the "see why". but if you REALLY wanna see why, here's the link.

Aki Kaurismaki See why

Al Pacino See why

Alan Alda See why

Alan Cumming See why

Andre Agassi See why

Andrew Lincoln

Angela Bassett See why

Anjelica Huston See why

Annette Bening See why

Annie Lennox

Anti-Flag See why

Ashley Judd See why

Ashton Kutcher See why

Avril Lavigne See why

Babyface See why

Bad Religion See why

Barry Diller See why

Barry Pepper

Beastie Boys See why

Ben Cohen See why

Bette Middler See why

Bianca Jagger See why

Bill Ward See why

Billy Crystal See why

Blair Underwood

Blink See why

Bonnie Franklin

Bonnie Raitt

Bono See why

Boyz II Men See why

Brad Pitt See why

Bradley Whitford

Brendan Fraser See why

Bud Selig See why

Busta Rhymes See why

Cameron Diaz See why

Camryn Manheim See why

Carl Reiner See why

Carole King See why

Cary Elwes

Casey Kasum See why

Cat Stevens See why

Catherine Zeta Jones

Charles Grodin See why

Charles S. Dutton

Charlize Theron See why

Chevy Chase See why

Chris Martin See why

Chris Noth See why

Chris Rock

Christian Slater See why

Christina Applegate See why

Christopher Reeve See why

Chuck D See why

Circle Jerks See why

Colin Hanks See why

Craig David

Dag Nasty See why

Daniel Benzali

Daniel Day Lewis

Daniel Stern See why

Danny Masterson See why

Darrell Hammond

Daryl Hannah See why

David Bale

David Byrne See why

David Cross See why

David Duchovny

David Spade See why

David Stern See why

Demi Moore See why

Dennis Weaver

Descendents See why

Diana Ross See why

Dominic Monaghan

Don Cheadle

Don Henley See why

Donald Sutherland

Drew Barrymore See why

Ed Begley Jr.

Ed O'Neill

Eliza Dushku See why

Elizabeth Taylor See why

Elliott Gould

Elton John

Elvis Costello See why

Emma Thompson

Emmylou Harris See why

Erase Errata See why

Errol Morris See why

Ethan Hawke

Eve Krista Allen See why

Fat Joe See why

Fat Mike Burkett See why

Felicity Huffman See why

Foo Fighters See why

Gabriel Byrne See why

George Clinton See why

George Lopez See why

George Michael See why

Gillian Anderson

Glenn Close See why

Gloria Steinem

Goldie Hawn See why

Good Charlotte See why

Green Day See why

Greg Germann

Gregory Peck See why

Gus Van Sant See why

Harrison Ford See why

Harvey Fierstein

Harvey Weinstein See why

Heath Ledger See why

Hector Elizondo See why

Helen Hunt

Hootie and the Blowfish See why

Howard Stern See why

Hugh Grant See why

Incubus See why

Isiah Thomas See why

Jack Black See why

Jack Johnson See why

Jack Nicholson See why

Jackson Browne See why

Jake Gyllenhaal See why

James Brolin

James Cromwell See why

James Gandolfini See why

James Taylor See why

James Whitmore

James Whitmore Jr.

Jamie Lee Curtis See why

Jane Kaczmarek See why

Janel Moloney

Janet Jackson See why

Jason Biggs See why

Jay-Z See why

Jean Reno See why

Jeff Goldblum See why

Jennifer Connelly

Jerry Katzenberg See why

Jerry Seinfeld See why

Jewel See why

Jill Clayburgh

Jim Broadbent

Jimmy Buffet

Jimmy Smits See why

Joan Baez See why

Joe Pantoliano See why

John C. Reilly See why

John Cusack

John Hurt

John McEnroe See why

John Michael Montgomery See why

Jon Bon Jovi See why

Jon Lovitz See why

Jonathan Demme

Jose Saramago See why

Josh Hartnett See why

Joshua Jackson See why

Joy Bryant See why

Judd Nelson See why

Judi Dench See why

Judy Davis See why

Julia Louis-Dreyfus See why

Julia Stiles See why

Julianne Moore See why

K-Ci & Jo Jo See why

Kate Hudson See why

Kate Mulgrew See why

Kathleen Turner

Kathy Mattea

Ken Howard

Kevin Costner See why

Kevin Pollak See why

Kevin Spacey See why

Kim Bassinger

Kirk Hammett See why

Kristin Davis See why

Kurt Vonnegut See why

Larry Flint See why

Larry Gelbart See why

Lars Ulrich See why

Laurence Fishburne

Leigh Steinberg See why

Lenny Kravitz See why

Leonardo DiCaprio See why

Liam Neeson See why

Lily Tomlin

Linda Ronstadt See why

Liz Phair See why

Loretta Swit

Lou Reed See why

Lucy Liu See why

Lukas Haas See why

Luther Vandross See why

Maggie Gyllenhaal See why

Marcia Ball See why

Marg Helgenberger

Marisa Tomei See why

Mark Pellington See why

Marty Stuart See why

Mary Chapin Carpenter See why

Mary J. Blige See why

Matt Damon

Matthew Good See why

Meg Ryan See why

Melissa Etheridge See why

Melissa Gilbert

Merle Haggard See why

Meryl Streep See why

Mia Farrow

Michael Bolton See why

Michael Douglas See why

Michael Ironside

Michael Jordan See why

Michael Keaton See why

Michael Mann See why

Michael Stipe See why

Michelle Branch See why

Michelle Shocked See why

Mike Mills

Mike Watt See why

Mike White See why

Missy Elliott See why

Monica Belluci

Mos Def See why

Mudhoney See why

Mudvayne

Muhammad Ali See why

Nanci Griffith See why

Naomi Watts See why

Natalie Cole See why

Natalie Imbruglia See why

Natalie Merchant See why

Nathan Lane See why

Neil Diamond See why

Neil Young See why

Nicolas Cage See why

No Doubt See why

Noah Wyle

Noam Chomsky See why

NOFX See why

Offspring See why

Olympia Dukakis

Oprah Winfrey See why

Outkast See why

Owen Wilson See why

Pam Tillis See why

Pamela Anderson See why

Paul McCartney See why

Paul Simon See why

Paula Cole See why

Penelope Cruz See why

Pennywise See why

Peter Buck

Peter Coyote

Peter Gabriel See why

Peter Yarrow

Phil Collins

Propagandhi See why

Radiohead See why

Reese Witherspoon See why

REM See why

Rene Auberjonois

Richard Belzer See why

Richard Dreyfuss See why

Richard E. Grant

Ricky Van Shelton See why

Rob Reiner

Robert David Hall

Robert De Niro See why

Robert Guillaume

Robert Redford See why

Robert Wyatt

Roma Downey See why

Rosanne Cash

Rosario Dawson See why

Roseanne Cash See why

Rosie O'Donnell See why

Rosie Perez See why

Roy Scheider See why

Russell Simmons See why

Sally Field See why

Salma Hayek See why

Samuel L. Jackson See why

Sarah Jessica Parker See why

Saul Zaentz

Scarlett Johansson See why

Scott Beibin See why

Sean "Puffy" Combs See why

Sean Astin See why

Sean Patrick Flanery

Seth Green See why

Shakira See why

Sharon Osbourne See why

Sharon Stone See why

Shawn Otto See why

Sheila Hancock

Sheryl Crow

Shirley MacLaine See why

Shiva Rose McDermott See why

Sonic Youth See why

Stephen Daldry See why

Stephen King See why

Steve Buscemi See why

Steve Earle See why

Steve Nash See why

Stevie Wonder See why

Sting

Stockard Channing See why

Suzanne Vega See why

System of a Down See why

Tea Leoni

Ted Danson See why

Ted Turner See why

Tenacious D See why

Terry Gilliam

The Donnas See why

The Liars See why

The Locust See why

The Smothers Brothers See why

Tilt See why

Tom Hanks See why

Tom Morello See why

Tom Robbins See why

Tommy Lee Jones See why

Toni Collette See why

Tony Bennett See why

Tony Shalhoub See why

Tool See why

Tweet See why

Tyne Daly

Val Kilmer See why

Vincent D'Onofrio See why

Warren Beatty See why

Werner Klemperer See why

Wesley Snipes See why

Wil Wheaton See why

William H. Macy See why

Woody Allen See why

Wyclef Jean See why

Youssou N'Dour See why

Zach Braff

Al Jourgensen

Alec Baldwin

Alyssa Milano

Ani DiFranco

Barbra Streisand

Ben Affleck

Bobby Fischer

Bruce Springsteen

Carlos Santana

Cher

Chrissie Hynde

Danny Glover

Dave Matthews

David Clennon

Dixie Chicks

Dustin Hoffman

Ed Asner

Ed Harris

Edward Norton

Eminem

Eric Roberts

Ethan Hawke

George Carlin

George Clooney

Gore Vidal

Gwyneth Paltrow

Harry Belafonte

Jadakiss

Jane Fonda

Janeane Garofalo

Jennifer Aniston

Jessica Lange

Jethro Tull

John Cusack

John Mellencamp

Johnny Depp

Joy Behar

Julia Roberts

Kate Hudson

Kirsten Dunst

Larry Hagman

Lauren Hutton

Madonna

Margaret Cho

Martin Scorsese

Martin Sheen

Maynard Keenan

Michael Moore

Mike Farrell

Moby

Morrissey

Oliver Stone

Ozzy Osbourne

Pearl Jam

Richard Gere

Rickie Lee Jones

Robert Altman

Robin Williams

Sandra Bernhard

Sandy Duncan

Sean Penn

Spike Lee

Susan Sarandon

Tim Robbins

Uma Thurman

Viggo Mortensen

Whoopi Goldberg

Willie Nelson

Woody Harrelson

Can you see now why hollyweird is annoying? Of course you can't.

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Can you say for certain that those people are 'liberal' or 'conservative'? Last time I checked people don't wear a badge on their arms to denote fixed, political affiliations, as with most people I suspect they are a little of everything.

If anything, Steven's posting of that political questionaire the other week proved quite clearly that political views don't fall into one of two extremist camps - so I'm not sure what point is really being made here.

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Can you say for certain that those people are 'liberal' or 'conservative'?

Are you kidding me? Celebrities are MORE than willing to tell the world their views on politics.

[Ban Hammer 13,345]

Can you say for certain that those people are 'liberal' or 'conservative'? Last time I checked people don't wear a badge on their arms to denote fixed, political affiliations, as with most people I suspect they are a little of everything.

you didn't get the memo did you? now put on your appropriate armband. it's all listed in the latest war on terror bill

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Can you say for certain that those people are 'liberal' or 'conservative'?

Are you kidding me? Celebrities are MORE than willing to tell the world their views on politics.

Not surprising considering the business they are in - cameras tend to follow them around. Still I'm not sure what the point is considering that everyone (regardless of occupation) is a politician in one form or another.

Can you say for certain that those people are 'liberal' or 'conservative'? Last time I checked people don't wear a badge on their arms to denote fixed, political affiliations, as with most people I suspect they are a little of everything.

you didn't get the memo did you? now put on your appropriate armband. it's all listed in the latest war on terror bill

Well we're already profiling "swarthy types", I'm sure that legislation won't be far off - if someone thinks they can get away with it, they'll try it.

Just don't expect me to agree with the branding of human beings.

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Can you say for certain that those people are 'liberal' or 'conservative'?

Are you kidding me? Celebrities are MORE than willing to tell the world their views on politics.

I just love that they list Noam Chomsky as a "liberal celebrity." More like a famous liberal, right?

[incanada1234 0]

Can you say for certain that those people are 'liberal' or 'conservative'?

Are you kidding me? Celebrities are MORE than willing to tell the world their views on politics.

Not surprising considering the business they are in - cameras tend to follow them around. Still I'm not sure what the point is considering that everyone (regardless of occupation) is a politician in one form or another.

Wow, you'll stick up for anyone that bashes America, huh?

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Wow, you'll stick up for anyone that bashes America, huh?

What is bashing America? Being critical of our government? What was it called when a Democrat was in office?

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Wow, you'll stick up for anyone that bashes America, huh?

What is bashing America? Being critical of our government? What was it called when a Democrat was in office?

Ummm, kissing Clinton's a$$?

Edited August 14, 2006 by incanada1234

[Fischkoepfin 1]

Thank you for that list. And now let me introduce to you the LIBERAL celebs. (ignore the "see why". but if you REALLY wanna see why, here's the link.

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Can you see now why hollyweird is annoying? Of course you can't.

Many of these are not even American, like Aki Kaurismaki, who lives in Helsinki, last thing I heard. These lists (left or right) are just plain silly and uncannily reminiscent of the black lists of the HUAC-era, during which the great icon of modern conservativism Ronald Reagan converted from red-sympathizer to stool-pidgeon naming more names than anyone else and jump-starting his amazing rise as a politician.

I do not think anyone should restrain themselves from speaking out on politics, as long as it is more than just ranting and raving about the stupdity of the other side a method detecatble in the op-ed piece (not even the NY-post would call that an article) which manages to link two completely disparate issues. What claim is the author exactly making? And how exactly does he support his claim that there is a link other than by assuming that his readers are indoctrinated enough to believe the tenuous connection?

Political dialogue is important to any democratic society because otherwise it is not a democracy.

[incanada1234 0]

But seriously, bashing America would be, well, bashing America. Always saying stuff about how horrible our country is and what oppressors we are. Although I'm sure you feel the same way they do, so I don't expect you to agree.

Thank you for that list. And now let me introduce to you the LIBERAL celebs. (ignore the "see why". but if you REALLY wanna see why, here's the link.

.....

Can you see now why hollyweird is annoying? Of course you can't.

Many of these are not even American, like Aki Kaurismaki, who lives in Helsinki, last thing I heard. These lists (left or right) are just plain silly and uncannily reminiscent of the black lists of the HUAC-era, during which the great icon of modern conservativism Ronald Reagan converted from red-sympathizer to stool-pidgeon naming more names than anyone else and jump-starting his amazing rise as a politician.

I do not think anyone should restrain themselves from speaking out on politics, as long as it is more than just ranting and raving about the stupdity of the other side a method detecatble in the op-ed piece (not even the NY-post would call that an article) which manages to link two completely disparate issues. What claim is the author exactly making? And how exactly does he support his claim that there is a link other than by assuming that his readers are indoctrinated enough to believe the tenuous connection?

Political dialogue is important to any democratic society because otherwise it is not a democracy.

HA, thanks for proving my point.

Who cares if they aren't all American? My goodness, you're so narrow-minded, you bigot!

[Fischkoepfin 1]

But seriously, bashing America would be, well, bashing America. Always saying stuff about how horrible our country is and what oppressors we are. Although I'm sure you feel the same way they do, so I don't expect you to agree.

Thank you for that list. And now let me introduce to you the LIBERAL celebs. (ignore the "see why". but if you REALLY wanna see why, here's the link.

.....

Can you see now why hollyweird is annoying? Of course you can't.

Many of these are not even American, like Aki Kaurismaki, who lives in Helsinki, last thing I heard. These lists (left or right) are just plain silly and uncannily reminiscent of the black lists of the HUAC-era, during which the great icon of modern conservativism Ronald Reagan converted from red-sympathizer to stool-pidgeon naming more names than anyone else and jump-starting his amazing rise as a politician.

I do not think anyone should restrain themselves from speaking out on politics, as long as it is more than just ranting and raving about the stupdity of the other side a method detecatble in the op-ed piece (not even the NY-post would call that an article) which manages to link two completely disparate issues. What claim is the author exactly making? And how exactly does he support his claim that there is a link other than by assuming that his readers are indoctrinated enough to believe the tenuous connection?

Political dialogue is important to any democratic society because otherwise it is not a democracy.

HA, thanks for proving my point.

Who cares if they aren't all American? My goodness, you're so narrow-minded, you bigot!

No idea, how I proved your point since I didn't address exclusively conservative attitudes but more the pointless "you're wrong, so shut up"-attitude which is shared by both sides.

Thanks for proving my point. If you don't have arguments to make your case you insult people. Try again!