I-751 Evidence: Do I have enough or should I wait for more?

[Eti 0]

Hello,

Starting tomorrow, my 2 year green card will expire in 3 months.

We have completed our package for filing I-751. We have included the following evidence:

• Copy of our driver licenses showing our address and our contacts of emergencies

• Copy of our 2008 IRS Tax Refund cover letter

• A partial copy of our 2008 and 2009 joint US tax returns

• Copy of our joint credit cards

• Copy of our joint checking account signed contract

• Copies of our joint car insurance notices

• Copy of our family membership to the YMCA

• Copies of plane tickets to our different trips

• Copies of various bank and credit card statements showing our address (note: we first lived for a few months at her dads and then move to an apartment. While I changed my address on my bank statements right away, she never did before now because she would keep receiving them at her dad's who lives 20min from us. So we only a few statements showing the same address: the old ones from 2 years ago at her dads, and the most recent one that should be coming in the mail soon as she just changed her address at the bank).

• Copies of 4 government documents showing our address (2 for her and 2 for me)

We should soon (within 10 days) receive our new debit cards for our joint account and her bank statement with our new address.

My question is: should we file now or wait for the debit cards and her bank statement?

Thank you so much for your help.

[v333k 59]

Hello,

Starting tomorrow, my 2 year green card will expire in 3 months.

We have completed our package for filing I-751. We have included the following evidence:

• Copy of our driver licenses showing our address and our contacts of emergencies

• Copy of our 2008 IRS Tax Refund cover letter

• A partial copy of our 2008 and 2009 joint US tax returns

• Copy of our joint credit cards

• Copy of our joint checking account signed contract

• Copies of our joint car insurance notices

• Copy of our family membership to the YMCA

• Copies of plane tickets to our different trips

• Copies of various bank and credit card statements showing our address (note: we first lived for a few months at her dads and then move to an apartment. While I changed my address on my bank statements right away, she never did before now because she would keep receiving them at her dad's who lives 20min from us. So we only a few statements showing the same address: the old ones from 2 years ago at her dads, and the most recent one that should be coming in the mail soon as she just changed her address at the bank).

• Copies of 4 government documents showing our address (2 for her and 2 for me)

We should soon (within 10 days) receive our new debit cards for our joint account and her bank statement with our new address.

My question is: should we file now or wait for the debit cards and her bank statement?

Thank you so much for your help.

You are missing a copy of front and back of GC.... unless you omitted that since it is a given.

One thing I will point out is partial tax returns may not do the trick. USCIS is known to barf on partials so one recommendation is to contact the IRS and ask them to fax (for immediate possession) and mail (for the record) you transcripts. If you have a fax machine next to you, you can ask them to fax it while your are on the phone and waiting - USCIS will accept a faxed copy and your tax transcripts evidence will be complete.

As for the bank cards and statement, you can get a letter from the bank manager stating that both of you are authorized users since xx/xx/2008 and you have recently changed your address with the bank etc.... which will allow you to skip the 10 day waiting period.

Besides my suggestions above, your evidence looks very good though... so I think you should be good to go!!!

Edited July 14, 2010 by v333k

[Eti 0]

Note: Would you recommend us to add anything else? Tx.

[v333k 59]

sure...

what about utility bills? (cellphones, electric, water, waste)

How about 401k plans and health coverage?

[Eti 0]

You are missing a copy of front and back of GC.... unless you omitted that since it is a given.

One thing I will point out is partial tax returns may not do the trick. USCIS is known to barf on partials so one recommendation is to contact the IRS and ask them to fax (for immediate possession) and mail (for the record) you transcripts. If you have a fax machine next to you, you can ask them to fax it while your are on the phone and waiting - USCIS will accept a faxed copy and your tax transcripts evidence will be complete.

As for the bank cards and statement, you can get a letter from the bank manager stating that both of you are authorized users since xx/xx/2008 and you have recently changed your address with the bank etc.... which will allow you to skip the 10 day waiting period.

Besides my suggestions above, your evidence looks very good though... so I think you should be good to go!!!

Thanks for the transcript tip, I am on the phone right now waiting for an IRS agent to pick up

For the joint checking account, we just opened it this month...

Concerning her bank statement, this her individual bank account. We want to include our individual bank statements to show our address.

sure...

what about utility bills? (cellphones, electric, water, waste)

How about 401k plans and health coverage?

I could include my cellphone bills, but not hers because she gets her cellphone through her company. So I am not sure that proves anything, does it?

In addition, this post http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/220440-i-751-evidence/ says that utilities are not important proofs.

We don't have the same health coverage, and no 401K plan.

Thank you so much for your help.

I am a little worried that we cannot show show bank statements with the same address for the whole 2 years.

[v333k 59]

One other thing I forgot to mention is it is recommended you include a cover letter and briefly explain the type of evidence you are including. Sometimes, you can explain some of the types of evidence that do not conform to the traditional list. Sometimes when you disclose the weird cases, it will be accepted much better than not including them at all. Therefore, if you are going to include bank statements as you mentioned, then it might make sense to explain it. Same goes for the cellphone bills.

[Okalian 41]

Ditto. A personal statement (or cover letter) may possibly spare you an interview. Your evidence is very sufficient, but it definitely won't hurt writing up a statement.

[notnew 13]

Thanks for the transcript tip, I am on the phone right now waiting for an IRS agent to pick up

For the joint checking account, we just opened it this month...

Concerning her bank statement, this her individual bank account. We want to include our individual bank statements to show our address.

I could include my cellphone bills, but not hers because she gets her cellphone through her company. So I am not sure that proves anything, does it?

In addition, this post http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/220440-i-751-evidence/ says that utilities are not important proofs.

We don't have the same health coverage, and no 401K plan.

Thank you so much for your help.

I am a little worried that we cannot show show bank statements with the same address for the whole 2 years.

Rent/lease/mortgage agreement in joint names would be useful.

Vehicle or personal loan from institution.

life insurance policy showing spouse as a beneficiary.

These are some other strong evidences which point to intermingling of the finance.

[Abhay 15]

Rent/Lease/Mortgage documents, 401K, Health and Dental insurance are some of the most important documents!

[Eti 0]

One other thing I forgot to mention is it is recommended you include a cover letter and briefly explain the type of evidence you are including. Sometimes, you can explain some of the types of evidence that do not conform to the traditional list. Sometimes when you disclose the weird cases, it will be accepted much better than not including them at all. Therefore, if you are going to include bank statements as you mentioned, then it might make sense to explain it. Same goes for the cellphone bills.

Ditto. A personal statement (or cover letter) may possibly spare you an interview. Your evidence is very sufficient, but it definitely won't hurt writing up a statement.

I did make a cover letter. However I do not explain in this cover letter that our bank statements do not show the same address for most of the 2 years.

I think I need to more explanatory, you might have understood what I meant before, but just in case, here is a better explanation of our situation.

We moved from her dad's address around July 1st 2008 to our apartment, and we have not moved since. But she never changed her address on her bank statements up until now, because her dad would just give them to her.

Months.......her bank statement address.......my bank statement address

May 08.......her dad's address................her dad's address

Jun 08.......her dad's address................her dad's address

Jul 08.......her dad's address................her dad's address....Note: we moved to our apartment

Aug 08.......her dad's address................her dad's address

Sep 08.......her dad's address................her dad's address

Nov 08.......her dad's address................our apartment

Dec 08.......her dad's address................our apartment

Jan 09.......her dad's address................our apartment

.

.

.

Apr 10.......her dad's address................our apartment

May 10.......her dad's address................our apartment

Jun 10.......our apartment....................our apartment.........Note: we notified USCIS that we moved in July 08, and apologized for not letting them know earlier.

So I am thinking of just giving them both our May 2008 statements and our June 2010 statements, and that's it, because the other ones are not proving that we were living together.

Now, I understand that you advise me to explain them our situation, but I am afraid it may just raise them more questions.

If I were to explain that she did not change her address on her statements because she would still receive them through her dad, like you recommend me to do, should I give them all our bank statements, or just the May 2008 and June 2010 ones.

Rent/lease/mortgage agreement in joint names would be useful.

Vehicle or personal loan from institution.

life insurance policy showing spouse as a beneficiary.

These are some other strong evidences which point to intermingling of the finance.

Rent/Lease/Mortgage documents, 401K, Health and Dental insurance are some of the most important documents!

We don't pay a rent, that's her dad's apartment.

We don't have a 401K

We have a different health insurance.

No loan.

[v333k 59]

Regarding the bank statements - it might be a good idea to provide the two statements you mentioned, and get a letter from the bank manager stating that you have been both authorized users on the same bank account since xx/2009 and the account is still active to date, and of course, the letter will show your current address and not having to deal with when the address what changed. I think this will be just fine.

[Eti 0]

Regarding the bank statements - it might be a good idea to provide the two statements you mentioned, and get a letter from the bank manager stating that you have been both authorized users on the same bank account since xx/2009 and the account is still active to date, and of course, the letter will show your current address and not having to deal with when the address what changed. I think this will be just fine.

Thanks again for your help.

We are not both authorized users on these accounts. These are our personnal/individual account. I am not authorized on hers, she is not authorized on mine. I just wanted to include them to show to USCIS that we are receiving our bank statements at the same address, therefore we are living together.

However, we just opened a JOINT checking account for which we should receive our debit cards within 10 days.

I know this is confusing, I apologize.

Edited July 15, 2010 by Eti

[notnew 13]

I did make a cover letter. However I do not explain in this cover letter that our bank statements do not show the same address for most of the 2 years.

I think I need to more explanatory, you might have understood what I meant before, but just in case, here is a better explanation of our situation.

We moved from her dad's address around July 1st 2008 to our apartment, and we have not moved since. But she never changed her address on her bank statements up until now, because her dad would just give them to her.

Months.......her bank statement address.......my bank statement address

May 08.......her dad's address................her dad's address

Jun 08.......her dad's address................her dad's address

Jul 08.......her dad's address................her dad's address....Note: we moved to our apartment

Aug 08.......her dad's address................her dad's address

Sep 08.......her dad's address................her dad's address

Nov 08.......her dad's address................our apartment

Dec 08.......her dad's address................our apartment

Jan 09.......her dad's address................our apartment

.

.

.

Apr 10.......her dad's address................our apartment

May 10.......her dad's address................our apartment

Jun 10.......our apartment....................our apartment.........Note: we notified USCIS that we moved in July 08, and apologized for not letting them know earlier.

So I am thinking of just giving them both our May 2008 statements and our June 2010 statements, and that's it, because the other ones are not proving that we were living together.

Now, I understand that you advise me to explain them our situation, but I am afraid it may just raise them more questions.

If I were to explain that she did not change her address on her statements because she would still receive them through her dad, like you recommend me to do, should I give them all our bank statements, or just the May 2008 and June 2010 ones.

We don't pay a rent, that's her dad's apartment.

We don't have a 401K

We have a different health insurance.

No loan.

Get a lease agreement done both your names with your father-in-law, so much easy IMO.