U.S. Lags World in Grasp of Genetics and Acceptance of Evolution

[incanada1234 0]

But didn't you know that believing the bible is fundamentalist? Be more secular!!! Don't take a stand on anything! If you let your beliefs get affected by society and it's beliefs, then and only then are you a good Christian girl Marissa.

I just love how fundamentalist is a bad word. I love being a fundamentalist! I embrace it and I'll tell anyone who asks.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well, I'LL say that he can't to anything and everything.

Yes, but I didn't ask you. erekose says he's a Christian, which is why I asked HIM.

I don't think the human mind can comprehend those concepts - just as its impossible to conceive of what "nothing" looks like.

[incanada1234 0]

Well, I'LL say that he can't to anything and everything.

Yes, but I didn't ask you. erekose says he's a Christian, which is why I asked HIM.

I don't think the human mind can comprehend those concepts - just as its impossible to conceive of what "nothing" looks like.

Is that a no? So you don't think God is perfect and can do anything?

[chri'stina 190]

But didn't you know that believing the bible is fundamentalist? Be more secular!!! Don't take a stand on anything! If you let your beliefs get affected by society and it's beliefs, then and only then are you a good Christian girl Marissa.

I just love how fundamentalist is a bad word. I love being a fundamentalist! I embrace it and I'll tell anyone who asks.

Yes ...people assume fundamentalist=wants to blow up things and kill people, and WILL NOT tolerate anyone who doesn't agree with them. That is how Islamic fundamentalists have been described, but if you actually look at the word it just means someone who strongly adheres to their beliefs.

Edited August 11, 2006 by stina&suj

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I have a question. Does the Bible actually say God can do anything? Or is that just a popular assumption?

[Ban Hammer 13,345]

You don't think Adam and Eve could have had a LOT of kids during their lifetime?

now that we have vcr/dvd and xbox, that could explain the decrease

I have a question. Does the Bible actually say God can do anything? Or is that just a popular assumption?

anything but make bill loyal

[PlatyPius 5]

Well believe whatever you wish.

Ditto. I really don't have it in for Xians, it's just fun to tweak people like Incanada....

Edited August 11, 2006 by Cian

[incanada1234 0]

Well believe whatever you wish.

Ditto. I really don't have it in for Xians, it's just fun to tweak people like Incanada....

It's hilarious too, thank you.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well, I'LL say that he can't to anything and everything.

Yes, but I didn't ask you. erekose says he's a Christian, which is why I asked HIM.

I don't think the human mind can comprehend those concepts - just as its impossible to conceive of what "nothing" looks like.

Is that a no? So you don't think God is perfect and can do anything?

That's not what I said. You're asking me to agree to a set of assumptions without asking what they mean - 'perfect' and 'anything' are questions of interpretation and definition, not absolutes.

I think God created the universe according to a set of logical physical laws that mankind can observe and manipulate.

Its no coincidence that animals can't speak - any biologist will tell you that is the direct result of brain size and the lack of vocal cords. If vocal cords aren't needed to speak why bother to create them?

[PlatyPius 5]

Well believe whatever you wish.

Ditto. I really don't have it in for Xians, it's just fun to tweak people like Incanada....

It's hilarious too, thank you.

You're welcome. I know you aren't happy unless there's an athiest liberal to fight. Sorry I can't help more with the liberal thing, but I have the athiest part covered.

[incanada1234 0]

You're welcome. I know you aren't happy unless there's an athiest liberal to fight.

True

Sorry I can't help more with the liberal thing, but I have the athiest part covered.

I forgive you. For both.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

An interesting excerpt from Wikipedia's page on Omnipotence:

Scriptural grounds

Some of those who reject omnipotence do so on scriptural grounds. They note that the word "omnipotence" is absent from the Bible. They also note that much of the narrative of the Old Testament describes God as interacting with creation primarily through persuasion, and only occasionally through brute force. A primary New Testament text used to assert the limit of God's power is Paul's assertion that God cannot tell a lie [4]. Thus, it is argued, there is no scriptural reason to adhere to omnipotence, and the adoption of the doctrine is merely a result of the synthesis of Hellenic and early Christian thought.

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Paradoxes of omnipotence

For further discussion, see the main article Omnipotence Paradox

Belief that God can do absolutely anything can be thought to yield certain logical paradoxes. A simple example goes as follows: Can God create a rock so heavy that even he cannot lift it? If he can, then (so the claim goes) the rock is now unliftable, limiting God's power. But if he cannot, then he is still not omnipotent. This problem led in the High Middle Ages to developing the concept of mathematical infinity, and laid the basis for infinitesimal calculus.

Combining omnipotence with omniscience can yield the difficulty of whether or not God can pose a question to which he would not know the answer.

Edited August 11, 2006 by Gupt

[Ban Hammer 13,345]

Well believe whatever you wish.

Ditto. I really don't have it in for Xians, it's just fun to tweak people like Incanada....

It's hilarious too, thank you.

You're welcome. I know you aren't happy unless there's an athiest liberal to fight. Sorry I can't help more with the liberal thing, but I have the athiest part covered.

maybe we need a steven-cian clone

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Now we're in full existentialist philosopher mode the waters of this debate are now very muddy indeed.

[PlatyPius 5]

Now we're in full existentialist philosopher mode the waters of this debate are now very muddy indeed.

w00t! Bring on the Nietzsche!