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But now you agree that science is right about the Big Bang? :)

I don't quite remember saying that. But if the big bang DID happen, God made it happen.

Ask your parents about the big bang - how do you think you were conceived? :P

Whoa, the universe was created when two people had sex?! :P

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Ask your parents about the big bang - how do you think you were conceived? :P

Whoa, the universe was created when two people had sex?! :P

That's generally how life is created, yes -- with a bang. :D

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I'm not sure what you're point is. I could have told you that God is sometimes jealous, wrathful, and vengeful. Does "perfect" = "blissfully happy and loving at all times"? God is Just. That doesn't mean he's never angry.

So....yeah, still scratching my head on what your point is. :huh:

You seem to have forgotten what transpired earlier:

Tell me why if he is so perfect does he allow such hatred to be fostered in his name??? Why does he call himself vengeful, jealous, a god of wrath??? If I had a vengeful, jealous and angry person anywhere near me I would run a zillion miles... so tell me what is perfect about jealousy and vengeance for a start?

God doesn't create hatred and jealousy - people do.

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It has been so long and so much has happened in between...

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I'm not sure what you're point is. I could have told you that God is sometimes jealous, wrathful, and vengeful. Does "perfect" = "blissfully happy and loving at all times"? God is Just. That doesn't mean he's never angry.

So....yeah, still scratching my head on what your point is. :huh:

You seem to have forgotten what transpired earlier:

Tell me why if he is so perfect does he allow such hatred to be fostered in his name??? Why does he call himself vengeful, jealous, a god of wrath??? If I had a vengeful, jealous and angry person anywhere near me I would run a zillion miles... so tell me what is perfect about jealousy and vengeance for a start?

God doesn't create hatred and jealousy - people do.

God's anger and jealousy is Just, ours (as imperfect humans) is not. We bring on those feelings ourselves. It's hard to explain and actually, I don't expect you to agree since you most likely haven't read and studied the Bible. This is one of those debates that are impossible since we believe in different things.

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incanada, I must say you are extremely presumptuous when you say I most likely have neither read nor studied the bible... I have read it many, many times... in fact there was a time many years ago when I believed in god... and it was the christian god I must add... but became increasingly disillusioned with what was going on... pressure to get baptised... pressure to destroy my precious music as I was told Jethro Tull was satanic music... pressure to start accepting the creationist theory over evolution... and when push came to shove - I knew just what had to be shoved... that which wanted to turn me into an obedient, unquestioning being... I will never give up my music or my ability to think for myself... so I shoved religion out the door... which is probably the best thing I ever did - coz I would have possibly been like you... narrow-minded and incapable of thinking for myself outside of that book.

Paul and I met on the Bazaar on the 14th January (he joined my progressive rock forum that day)

July 3rd he flew to England to meet me

We fell in love while he drove all over the place coz I cannot read maps (we were supposed to go to Ingleton - but touched Darlington 4 times, Pierce Bridge 6 times, Scotch Corner twice and Bernard Castle twice and we never did make it to Ingleton)

It has been so long and so much has happened in between...

Arrived in Houston on October 29th 2006

Married 17th November 2006

Lost my father 8th January 2007 (all dates are a blur after this)

Conditional Green Card dated 24th October 2007

I-751 posted on 6th August 2009

Received on 7th August 2009 in VT

Melo's Prog Bazaar

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incanada, I must say you are extremely presumptuous when you say I most likely have neither read nor studied the bible... I have read it many, many times... in fact there was a time many years ago when I believed in god... and it was the christian god I must add... but became increasingly disillusioned with what was going on... pressure to get baptised... pressure to destroy my precious music as I was told Jethro Tull was satanic music... pressure to start accepting the creationist theory over evolution... and when push came to shove - I knew just what had to be shoved... that which wanted to turn me into an obedient, unquestioning being... I will never give up my music or my ability to think for myself... so I shoved religion out the door... which is probably the best thing I ever did - coz I would have possibly been like you... narrow-minded and incapable of thinking for myself outside of that book.

So you read and studied the Bible, but you never accepted it as Truth. I see.

By the way, if you think accusing me of using the Bible as the basis for how I live my life and what I believe is an insult, you're wrong. :)

You, my friend, are certainly not open-minded.

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incanada, I must say you are extremely presumptuous when you say I most likely have neither read nor studied the bible... I have read it many, many times... in fact there was a time many years ago when I believed in god... and it was the christian god I must add... but became increasingly disillusioned with what was going on... pressure to get baptised... pressure to destroy my precious music as I was told Jethro Tull was satanic music... pressure to start accepting the creationist theory over evolution... and when push came to shove - I knew just what had to be shoved... that which wanted to turn me into an obedient, unquestioning being... I will never give up my music or my ability to think for myself... so I shoved religion out the door... which is probably the best thing I ever did - coz I would have possibly been like you... narrow-minded and incapable of thinking for myself outside of that book.

So you read and studied the Bible, but you never accepted it as Truth. I see.

By the way, if you think accusing me of using the Bible as the basis for how I live my life and what I believe is an insult, you're wrong. :)

You, my friend, are certainly not open-minded.

:lol: thanks for the laugh!

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Atheism is the path to intolerance.

Wow. Just wow.

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You, my friend, are certainly not open-minded.

Says Ms "If I don't like it, it must be Liberal" :whistle:

I never claimed to be open-minded though. "Narrow-minded" isn't an insult to me. The road that leads to God is narrow.

Atheism is the path to intolerance.

Wow. Just wow.

Kettle, I hear the pot mumbling something....

Heh. It's a nice shout-out to roi_aggie's statement. ;)

incanada, I must say you are extremely presumptuous when you say I most likely have neither read nor studied the bible... I have read it many, many times... in fact there was a time many years ago when I believed in god... and it was the christian god I must add... but became increasingly disillusioned with what was going on... pressure to get baptised... pressure to destroy my precious music as I was told Jethro Tull was satanic music... pressure to start accepting the creationist theory over evolution... and when push came to shove - I knew just what had to be shoved... that which wanted to turn me into an obedient, unquestioning being... I will never give up my music or my ability to think for myself... so I shoved religion out the door... which is probably the best thing I ever did - coz I would have possibly been like you... narrow-minded and incapable of thinking for myself outside of that book.

So you read and studied the Bible, but you never accepted it as Truth. I see.

By the way, if you think accusing me of using the Bible as the basis for how I live my life and what I believe is an insult, you're wrong. :)

You, my friend, are certainly not open-minded.

:lol: thanks for the laugh!

See previous post. :)

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