Conclusion: Few approvals and not using RFE Date

[David and Marina 0]

I have come to the conclusion that the NOA1 date and the RFE date make NO DIFFERENCE in approvals. I have now seen people with RFE dates of when they sent things back two weeks later than I, and I still have no approval.

Conclusion: Nothing but the wind matters at CSC and customer service is just talking when they say they base it on the RFE date now.

Total Time from Application Receipt:

Days: 129

Business Days: 94

Total Time from RFE received at CSC:

Days: 36

Business Days: 27

####### is going on over there?

[SteveInge 0]

I have come to the conclusion that the NOA1 date and the RFE date make NO DIFFERENCE in approvals. I have now seen people with RFE dates of when they sent things back two weeks later than I, and I still have no approval.

Conclusion: Nothing but the wind matters at CSC and customer service is just talking when they say they base it on the RFE date now.

Total Time from Application Receipt:

Days: 129

Business Days: 94

Total Time from RFE received at CSC:

Days: 36

Business Days: 27

####### is going on over there?

Agree with your conclusion!!! And it's not funny!!!

[Laura_and_IanM 0]

I have come to the conclusion that the NOA1 date and the RFE date make NO DIFFERENCE in approvals. I have now seen people with RFE dates of when they sent things back two weeks later than I, and I still have no approval.

Conclusion: Nothing but the wind matters at CSC and customer service is just talking when they say they base it on the RFE date now.

Total Time from Application Receipt:

Days: 129

Business Days: 94

Total Time from RFE received at CSC:

Days: 36

Business Days: 27

####### is going on over there?

Agree with your conclusion!!! And it's not funny!!!

I agree with you also!!! I have been watching ppl that filed the same time as me get approved and ppl that filed after me get approved. Yes I am with my hubby, but the sacrifice I am making is not seeing my children. Now with all this in the news yesterday, it makes me even more anxious to get back...####### IS GOING ON?????

LJ

[noblehero 0]

I have come to the conclusion that the NOA1 date and the RFE date make NO DIFFERENCE in approvals. I have now seen people with RFE dates of when they sent things back two weeks later than I, and I still have no approval.

Conclusion: Nothing but the wind matters at CSC and customer service is just talking when they say they base it on the RFE date now.

Total Time from Application Receipt:

Days: 129

Business Days: 94

Total Time from RFE received at CSC:

Days: 36

Business Days: 27

####### is going on over there?

It seems like now that things have slowed down, they are going by NOA1 dates. Which is great! (Edit) Okay, scratch that ...I just read soul encounter. Dayum.

Edited August 11, 2006 by noblehero

[hockeygal 0]

I've been trying to cling to there being some sort of logic, even if I don't agree with it (i.e. RFE instead of NOA1) but now that doesn't appear to be correct either. It is random. Piles here, piles there. Some of us must be on the desks of the guys who are on vacation!

[nfs 0]

I've been trying to cling to there being some sort of logic, even if I don't agree with it (i.e. RFE instead of NOA1) but now that doesn't appear to be correct either. It is random. Piles here, piles there. Some of us must be on the desks of the guys who are on vacation!

this probably explains it!

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26317

[digbeezgrl 0]

I feel the same way. We had RFE receipt on the 18th of July, with not so much as a 'Piss Off' since then....

I am wondering if they've lost my file. I know it's not likely, and I damn well know there are people here who've been waiting longer than me, but sheesh!

[Justin 0]

I am in the same boat. I truely expected an aproval THIS WEEK, but "nada!"

Justin

[Yodrak 7]

David and Marina,

Points of clarification:

- Processing begins - cases are taken 'off the shelf' and are given to case officers based on Receipt Date.

- Processing resumes - cases are taken off the pile on the corner of a case officer's desk based on the RFE response date (different case officers all having their own piles, we now have not 1 queue but as many different queues as there are case officers).

- Approval comes when the review of the case has been completed and any issues with the particular case have been resolved.

So you are quite correct - Receipt Date and RFE response date are once and twice removed, respectively, from the date when approval may come and only influence, but do not establish, what the approval date might be.

Yodrak

I have come to the conclusion that the NOA1 date and the RFE date make NO DIFFERENCE in approvals. I have now seen people with RFE dates of when they sent things back two weeks later than I, and I still have no approval.

Conclusion: Nothing but the wind matters at CSC and customer service is just talking when they say they base it on the RFE date now.

Total Time from Application Receipt:

Days: 129

Business Days: 94

Total Time from RFE received at CSC:

Days: 36

Business Days: 27

####### is going on over there?

Edited August 11, 2006 by Yodrak

[William33 110]

Yodrak,

Your processing synopsis makes perfect sense, with one exception.

If the cases were issued to "case officers" based upon receipt date, would it not have been logical to issue IMBRA RFE's in the same order?

Or do you surmise that these "case officers" were given unilateral authority to issue the IMBRA RFE at will?

David and Marina,

Points of clarification:

- Processing begins - cases are taken 'off the shelf' and are given to case officers based on Receipt Date.

- Processing resumes - cases are taken off the pile on the corner of a case officer's desk based on the RFE response date (different case officers all having their own piles, we now have not 1 queue but as many different queues as there are case officers).

- Approval comes when the review of the case has been completed and any issues with the particular case have been resolved.

So you are quite correct - Receipt Date and RFE response date are once and twice removed, respectively, from the date when approval may come and only influence, but do not establish, what the approval date might be.

Yodrak

[BPM-MVS 0]

David and Marina,

Points of clarification:

- Processing begins - cases are taken 'off the shelf' and are given to case officers based on Receipt Date.

- Processing resumes - cases are taken off the pile on the corner of a case officer's desk based on the RFE response date (different case officers all having their own piles, we now have not 1 queue but as many different queues as there are case officers).

- Approval comes when the review of the case has been completed and any issues with the particular case have been resolved.

So you are quite correct - Receipt Date and RFE response date are once and twice removed, respectively, from the date when approval may come and only influence, but do not establish, what the approval date might be.

Yodrak

I have come to the conclusion that the NOA1 date and the RFE date make NO DIFFERENCE in approvals. I have now seen people with RFE dates of when they sent things back two weeks later than I, and I still have no approval.

Conclusion: Nothing but the wind matters at CSC and customer service is just talking when they say they base it on the RFE date now.

Total Time from Application Receipt:

Days: 129

Business Days: 94

Total Time from RFE received at CSC:

Days: 36

Business Days: 27

####### is going on over there?

Question Yodrak, Cause I don't know Are these "Case Piles" seperated by the region of the beneficiary?

[Yodrak 7]

William,

My sense is that IMBRA was an unprecedented event - every submission between March 7 and whenever USCIS had prepared itself to implement the legislation required an RFE. That was how long? 1 month, 2 months, of backlog?

However they handled it I presume - I hope - they did it in a manner that was intended to get the job done as quickly as possible. If that caused some shuffling of the queue order so be it - everyone benefits when the job is done as quickly as possible despite the fact that everyone 'lost' when the law went into effect.

Yodrak

Yodrak,

Your processing synopsis makes perfect sense, with one exception.

If the cases were issued to "case officers" based upon receipt date, would it not have been logical to issue IMBRA RFE's in the same order?

Or do you surmise that these "case officers" were given unilateral authority to issue the IMBRA RFE at will?

David and Marina,

Points of clarification:

- Processing begins - cases are taken 'off the shelf' and are given to case officers based on Receipt Date.

- Processing resumes - cases are taken off the pile on the corner of a case officer's desk based on the RFE response date (different case officers all having their own piles, we now have not 1 queue but as many different queues as there are case officers).

- Approval comes when the review of the case has been completed and any issues with the particular case have been resolved.

So you are quite correct - Receipt Date and RFE response date are once and twice removed, respectively, from the date when approval may come and only influence, but do not establish, what the approval date might be.

Yodrak

LuvLife,

I've no idea about the details, only the general concepts. Which is that cases go into processing in queue order but it's simply not possible that they will come out in the same order they went in. Anyone who thinks that approvals should be issued on the basis of Receipt Date is missing more than the 4 aces from their deck.

Yodrak

David and Marina,

Points of clarification:

- Processing begins - cases are taken 'off the shelf' and are given to case officers based on Receipt Date.

- Processing resumes - cases are taken off the pile on the corner of a case officer's desk based on the RFE response date (different case officers all having their own piles, we now have not 1 queue but as many different queues as there are case officers).

- Approval comes when the review of the case has been completed and any issues with the particular case have been resolved.

So you are quite correct - Receipt Date and RFE response date are once and twice removed, respectively, from the date when approval may come and only influence, but do not establish, what the approval date might be.

Yodrak

I have come to the conclusion that the NOA1 date and the RFE date make NO DIFFERENCE in approvals. I have now seen people with RFE dates of when they sent things back two weeks later than I, and I still have no approval.

Conclusion: Nothing but the wind matters at CSC and customer service is just talking when they say they base it on the RFE date now.

Total Time from Application Receipt:

Days: 129

Business Days: 94

Total Time from RFE received at CSC:

Days: 36

Business Days: 27

####### is going on over there?

Question Yodrak, Cause I don't know Are these "Case Piles" seperated by the region of the beneficiary?