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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Germany
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Hi,

I've only seen information in the instructions about where to file this form I-751 if you reside in the US or outside of the US if you're in military or similar. Me and my wife aren't at that stage yet, but I like to look ahead. We plan on moving back and forth between the US and Germany for the rest of our lives. Do we need to be residing in the US at the time of filing the I-751?

-Corie

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Hi,

I've only seen information in the instructions about where to file this form I-751 if you reside in the US or outside of the US if you're in military or similar. Me and my wife aren't at that stage yet, but I like to look ahead. We plan on moving back and forth between the US and Germany for the rest of our lives. Do we need to be residing in the US at the time of filing the I-751?

-Corie

normally, you will need to be present in the US since you get biometrics appointments, and if needed an interview notice (which is very unlikely). However, you need to keep in mind the continuous residency and physical presence rules. If they are not followed, you may become ineligible to maintain residency or you may not be eligible to apply for naturalization depending on how often and for how long you travel.

In any case, maintain a US residence and keep paying your taxes here... never skip a tax year even though you didn't earn any money in the US.

The basic rules are

continuous residency - did not have trips that lastest 6 months or longer

physical presence - if based on 3 years, must not have spent 18 months or more in the past 36 months (3 years) outside the US.

N-400 Naturalization Timeline

06/28/11 .. Mailed N-400 package via Priority mail with delivery confirmation

06/30/11 .. Package Delivered to Dallas Lockbox

07/06/11 .. Received e-mail notification of application acceptance

07/06/11 .. Check cashed

07/08/11 .. Received NOA letter

07/29/11 .. Received text/e-mail for biometrics notice

08/03/11 .. Received Biometrics letter - scheduled for 8/24/11

08/04/11 .. Walk-in finger prints done.

08/08/11 .. Received text/e-mail: Placed in line for interview scheduling

09/12/11 .. Received Yellow letter dated 9/7/11

09/13/11 .. Received text/e-mail: Interview scheduled

09/16/11 .. Received interview letter

10/19/11 .. Interview - PASSED

10/20/11 .. Received text/email: Oath scheduled

10/22/11 .. Received OATH letter

11/09/11 .. Oath ceremony

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Germany
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Posted

[...] However, you need to keep in mind the continuous residency and physical presence rules. [...]

The basic rules are

continuous residency - did not have trips that lastest 6 months or longer

physical presence - if based on 3 years, must not have spent 18 months or more in the past 36 months (3 years) outside the US.

Thanks for the info. Can you point me to an official document where it talks about the physical presence rules?

-Corie

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Thanks for the info. Can you point me to an official document where it talks about the physical presence rules?

-Corie

hi,

The naturalization guide is where I quoted these from.

Here is a direct link (starting page 22):

http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/M-476.pdf

N-400 Naturalization Timeline

06/28/11 .. Mailed N-400 package via Priority mail with delivery confirmation

06/30/11 .. Package Delivered to Dallas Lockbox

07/06/11 .. Received e-mail notification of application acceptance

07/06/11 .. Check cashed

07/08/11 .. Received NOA letter

07/29/11 .. Received text/e-mail for biometrics notice

08/03/11 .. Received Biometrics letter - scheduled for 8/24/11

08/04/11 .. Walk-in finger prints done.

08/08/11 .. Received text/e-mail: Placed in line for interview scheduling

09/12/11 .. Received Yellow letter dated 9/7/11

09/13/11 .. Received text/e-mail: Interview scheduled

09/16/11 .. Received interview letter

10/19/11 .. Interview - PASSED

10/20/11 .. Received text/email: Oath scheduled

10/22/11 .. Received OATH letter

11/09/11 .. Oath ceremony

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There's no problem with living in two counties, as soon as both of you are US citizens. Until then the LPR is required to live in the US, exclusively.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

 
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