7.9 million jobs lost, many forever

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Less illegal immigration talk. More bacon talk.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Will the illegals steal my bacon? That's all I really care about.

[slim 1,525]

Speaking of the end of the world and bacon - http://www.calssportingarmory.com/PhotoDetails.asp?ShowDESC=N&ProductCode=CMMG10206

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Bacon and ammo -- two great tastes that taste great together.

[DEDixon 39]

Not going to happen. We've already missed the curve for alternative fuels. Oil production will likely start declining in just a few years while demand will continue to increase. All it takes is something like a 5% shortfall to shut down major economies. Enjoy life as we know it while you can, we will all be in the dark by 2015.

what?

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

what?

Oil production will peak, that's a given. Unless the world can implement alternative fuels to keep pace with oils decline, even small shortages will cause a jolt to the world economy that will cause everything to begin to unravel including the food supply. It is my belief that we needed to have fully ramped up alternatives by the turn of last century in order to be ready for the decline. I think its simply too late now. In a few years oil will decline and we simply won't have time to get the alternative systems in place.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Oil production will peak, that's a given. Unless the world can implement alternative fuels to keep pace with oils decline, even small shortages will cause a jolt to the world economy that will cause everything to begin to unravel including the food supply. It is my belief that we needed to have fully ramped up alternatives by the turn of last century in order to be ready for the decline. I think its simply too late now. In a few years oil will decline and we simply won't have time to get the alternative systems in place.

Wouldn't it be a lot simpler just to blame immigrants? Legal and Illegal for all of life's troubles? Plus I am positive the fiends eat bacon!

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

You'll pry my bacon from my cold, dead hand.

[evli1966 88]

You'll pry my bacon from my cold, dead hand.

Why there is plenty of bacon do not worry.

Obama plans to spend $10 billion to increase Hog production in an effort to increase methane production and provide enough bacon for all.

Mean while it will create 35,000 new jobs.

Edited July 6, 2010 by evli1966

[Dan J 277]

Oil production will peak, that's a given. Unless the world can implement alternative fuels to keep pace with oils decline, even small shortages will cause a jolt to the world economy that will cause everything to begin to unravel including the food supply. It is my belief that we needed to have fully ramped up alternatives by the turn of last century in order to be ready for the decline. I think its simply too late now. In a few years oil will decline and we simply won't have time to get the alternative systems in place.

We need alternative systems to sustain our current development model of urban sprawl and strip malls. We don't need to sustain that style of city development. Those who are going to suffer the most in coming years are those who choose a lifestyle that relies heavily on cheap fuel.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

i heard on NPR recently that the world's population will double in the next few decades (sorry, i forget how many decades). with computers and machines taking jobs away, where will all these people work?

I'm sure people wondered about this during the past century where population not quite doubled in the first and then more than doubled in the second half. Over the course of the entire 20th century, world population almost quadrupled (1.6 bn to 6 bn) while it is expected to not quite double over the course of the 21st century (6 bn to just under 10bn).

[alienlovechild 75]

We need alternative systems to sustain our current development model of urban sprawl and strip malls. We don't need to sustain that style of city development. Those who are going to suffer the most in coming years are those who choose a lifestyle that relies heavily on cheap fuel.

Low density development has been a fixture of the American landscape for about 60 years. If the car-centric model dies off, trillions of dollars of infrastruture and capital will be left to be overrun by the weeds. It may not be a new dark age but economic activity and any activity will drop off a great deal. Even some more densely packed cities like Detroit will probably die off even faster. It's happened before and some cities have shrunk in population dramatically. Americans have never seen it before until very recently and most picture western ghost towns.

[Dan J 277]

Low density development has been a fixture of the American landscape for about 60 years. If the car-centric model dies off, trillions of dollars of infrastruture and capital will be left to be overrun by the weeds. It may not be a new dark age but economic activity and any activity will drop off a great deal. Even some more densely packed cities like Detroit will probably die off even faster. It's happened before and some cities have shrunk in population dramatically. Americans have never seen it before until very recently and most picture western ghost towns.

Cities that are well diversified beyond manufacturing have been growing and will continue to grow. Rust belt cities like Pittsburgh and Detroit, are going to shrink, unless they can find ways to quickly diversify or attract other types of business.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_United_States_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas

[Craneman 2]

You are not allowed to pump your own gas in Bfrasil either.

They sill clean your windows check your oila and check your tires.

They even wear uniforms and they will even bring you a beer if you want it.

Watched a show called Vanguard last night, about suger cane workers in Brasil. What 80 people do in a day of 8 hours shift day, one machine does that in total of 24 hours. And only one person is required to operate these romatic machines. These 80 peoples still have their jobs. But for how long?

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

We need alternative systems to sustain our current development model of urban sprawl and strip malls. We don't need to sustain that style of city development. Those who are going to suffer the most in coming years are those who choose a lifestyle that relies heavily on cheap fuel.

I agree but that's only one piece of the puzzle. Believe it or not, one of the greatest consumers of oil is our current industrial farming methods. Basically, even if you walk to work like I do and rarely use your car, your lifestyle is still heavily reliant on cheap oil.