ACLU issues advisory to holiday travelers about Arizona's anti-illegal immigration law

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dead link?

OP's Link http://www.aclu.org/

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name='novotul' date='01 July 2010 - 09:24 AM' timestamp='1278012261' post='4040055']

We've had "interesting" experiences with the local police that lead us to conclude that the greatest threat to peaceable enjoyment of one's home by law-abiding citizens comes from police. Given her negative interactions with cops here -- where we were 100% innocent and aggrieved, BTW -- her attitude toward the new law in Arizona is, "I will never set foot in that state, cops have too much power in this country as it is." Can't say I blame her.

She draws strong constrasts between cops here and the experiences she's had back home: cops there have been uniformly decent, respectful, polite, and law-abiding. I've had some experiences with cops in her home country, too, that support the contrast.

Youtube is full of vids on bad russian cops

RUSSIAN COPS GOING MAD !!! BEAT MAN TO DEATH !!! POLICE HAVOC WORLDWIDE !!! SIGNS VIOLENCE

[TBoneTX 46,276]

If you are not breaking the Law, you have nothing to worry about from the Police. If you are breaking the law, Speeding etc and you are not an Illegal you have nothing to worry about from the Police, other than a ticket of course.

I'll have to show Tbone this post lol.

You rang, si man?

Lol yes. We have a live one who thinks the police are like the pope "infallible".

Let's put it this way, si man: Until the next Supreme Court ruling(s) that will completely eviscerate the Fourth & Fifth Amendments, the most useful phrases in dealing with the Law are:

1. "Officer, I respect that you're just trying to do your job, but I don't wish to talk to you. Good day."

2. "Officer, I wish to leave. Am I free to go?"

3. "I do NOT consent to ANY search."

4. "I wish to consult with an attorney right now."

Remember that police work for the State, and the State is after two things: bodies (arrests) & revenue (fines), si man.

Bear in mind that your state may have a "Stop & Identify" or "Failure to Identify" law that requires you to produce or recite ID information to any officer who requests it. This is the outgrowth of the truly tragic Supreme Court ruling in Hiibel v. 6th Judicial of Nevada, sigh man. This case was discussed in depth a few weeks ago in another forum; if I find it, I'll post the link, si man.