I-751 - Clarification on Children Section

[ella and mark 0]

Hello,

My wife and I are looking over the I-751 form and we were wondering if we need to include our newborn baby girl (born in the US) on "Part 5. Information About Your Children-List All Your Children," or is that only for children who have to go through the removal process also? Thanks for your help.

-Mark

[v333k 59]

Hello,

My wife and I are looking over the I-751 form and we were wondering if we need to include our newborn baby girl (born in the US) on "Part 5. Information About Your Children-List All Your Children," or is that only for children who have to go through the removal process also? Thanks for your help.

-Mark

my understanding is that all children need to be included. The only thing is your baby girl does not have an A# so that field should either be left empty or some users wrote US Citizen - not sure which is best.

[bszoom42 0]

I would go with "N/A" over "US Citizen" because you can be a US Citizen and have an alien number.

[v333k 59]

I would go with "N/A" over "US Citizen" because you can be a US Citizen and have an alien number.

that is incorrect. A US citizen cannot and does not have an A#.

[bszoom42 0]

that is incorrect. A US citizen cannot and does not have an A#.

If a permanent resident naturalizes, they can become a US Citizen. They still have an A# in the USCIS system - I don't believe the USCIS clears out its records upon naturalization. Perhaps you are referring to US Citizen by birth?

[bszoom42 0]

And as an example, if you look at the N-565 form, USCIS requests an A# when requesting a replacement naturalization/citizenship document.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/n-565.pdf

So USCIS does not remove A# records upon naturalization.

[v333k 59]

You bring a good point, but the problem is if naturalized citizens are still categorized by an A#, then there is no equality. A US citizen regardless of by birth or naturalization is a US citizen in the eyes of USCIS. Probably the form you are indicating is one of very very few that an A# is still required, but there shouldn't be anywhere else where the A# needs to be identified and recorded once a US Citizen.

[bszoom42 0]

You bring a good point, but the problem is if naturalized citizens are still categorized by an A#, then there is no equality. A US citizen regardless of by birth or naturalization is a US citizen in the eyes of USCIS. Probably the form you are indicating is one of very very few that an A# is still required, but there shouldn't be anywhere else where the A# needs to be identified and recorded once a US Citizen.

It's probably important because they became US Citizens at a specific time. There should be a difference, even if it is minute, between someone who has always been a US Citizen, and someone who became one at a point of time after birth, especially from a records point of view.

Another difference between the two is that naturalized US Citizens have Naturalization Certificate Numbers. US Citizens by birth don't have a Naturalization Certificate Number.

A popular example of the difference in rights between natural born and naturalized US Citizens is that only a natural born US citizen is eligible for the office of President of the United States, and that is stipulated in the US Constitution.

[v333k 59]

we are going off original topic. I am going to start a new topic for others to join in on the discussion.

For the OP - you can write in N/A, US Citizen or leave it blank - USCIS deals with this situation all the time.

[v333k 59]

I posted a new topic here to continue this discussion.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/262983-what-is-the-difference-between-a-citizen-through-naturalization-and-a-citizen-through-birth/

Edited June 29, 2010 by v333k