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Supreme Court rules that all Americans have fundamental right to bear arms

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AND PERSONAL opinion, which is the basic reason for Scalia's lambasting of Stevens:

"I can find no other explanation for such certitude except that JUSTICE STEVENS, despite his forswearing of “personal and private notions,” post, at 21 (internal quotation marks omitted), deeply believes it should be out."

It is about time this charge, of not strictly applying the law but rather letting one's own personal beliefs dictate how one interrprets the application of what would otherwise be the clearly logical meaning of a law, was written out against a member of the high court.

15 pages of basically calling him an asswipe, ending with:

"It is JUSTICE STEVENS’ approach, not the Court’s, that puts democracy in peril.".

Some of what he wrote would likely get him banned from here, lol...

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What's scary about the gun rights ruling is that there are four justices who don't see the right to bear arms as constitutionally protected.

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The right to bear arms .... I just dont get it. Is this some kind of sexual fetish?

no more than the right to vote. or peacefully assemble. and so on.

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Of course you have the right to own a car, or a TV, or a cell phone, a toaster, etc. How's that important in regards to the issue at hand?

I am trying to understand why one of them is so entrenched in the current laws.

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I am trying to understand why one of them is so entrenched in the current laws.

Anyone not born and raised in the US is trying to figure that out, myself included. It's one of these issues that keeps enough Americans focused on something other than the real pressing issues of our time.

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Anyone not born and raised in the US is trying to figure that out, myself included. It's one of these issues that keeps enough Americans focused on something other than the real pressing issues of our time.

IC now ..... its a public distraction mechanism. :P

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I am trying to understand why one of them is so entrenched in the current laws.

The bill of rights spells out our basic rights under the Constitution. One of these rights is the right to bear arms. It is given the same weight as our right of free speach, religion and the press. If the government can pass laws infringing our right to bear arms that means they can also pass laws to limit our other rights. It is a path we cannot even start to go down.

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The bill of rights spells out our basic rights under the Constitution. One of these rights is the right to bear arms. It is given the same weight as our right of free speach, religion and the press. If the government can pass laws infringing our right to bear arms that means they can also pass laws to limit our other rights. It is a path we cannot even start to go down.

Yes, I know ... change is very difficult.

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"It is clear that the Framers . . . counted the right to keep and bear arms among those fundamental rights necessary to our system of ordered liberty,"

Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr.

Speak truth to power!!!

What is unsaid, but surely understood, is that the Framers thought it necessary to explicitly state this fundamental right, because citizens required the arms to protect themselves from any tyrannical government. Libertarian fervor was alive and well in 1789: We will see how it does this November. :unsure:

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The right to bear arms .... I just dont get it. Is this some kind of sexual fetish?

no. but, i can see how the desire to control what someone else can & can't do traslating to some sort of fantasy fetish...sexual if they're really messed up.

So is the right to own ..... say a car .... also there? If not, how is that different?

no thats not in the constitution. idk maybe we should ask the framers of the constitution..oh yah we can't. so i guess we have to take the scotus opinion on what is & isn't our protected right under the constitution.

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