visa fraud busted

[STL_HCMC 0]

sweetiewynn,

Welcome back to VJ.

Your comment quoted below could be your biggest downfall (i.e. the people your associating yourself with). If I were you, I would definitely not be boasting about any association with anyone doing fraudulent activity or anyone that has information regarding such activity. You're only drawing more attention to yourself for all the wrong reasons and creating even more speculation.

STL_HCMC

I am convinced that an acquaintance I met has information which could be useful and I think I could probably find out what you require.

Edited August 25, 2006 by STL_HCMC

[wait4ever 0]

Sweetiewynn,

You should probably deal with this matter discreetly by contacting the post security officer, or other DSS office in the US or Bangkok. They deal with the investigations. Don't bother dealing with anyone in the IV unit.

Please be careful in your endeavors.

[STL_HCMC 0]

sweetiewynn,

But you do realize that "The government and its agencies" will decide whether your fiance(e) gets a visa or not.

The government and its agencies are not your savior.

STL_HCMC

[sweetiewynn2 0]

oh geez.. No, like I said, and ACQUAINTANCE, not a friend or anyone I know well or even at all. I don't even know the guy's name but I can recognize his face. If I knew who he was I would have already reported him. I don't even know for sure and can't promise that I can run into him again, but I can and will try. You might have a good point there but I am counting on the c.o.s to have more sense than that. If they want to accuse me of something they can go right ahead. Like I say neither I nor my fiancee has anything to hide. None of my friends are married to, marrying, or even considering marrying a foreigner so they also have nothing to worry about and I also don't have shady friends like that to worry about either.

[chuckandkim 0]

Hi Sweetiewynn2,

I feel you and you have every right to be on fire brother! Frauds = Crimes = Problem for everyone! I am not questioning your ability to fight crime, your bravery to walk the street of Saigon at night, or roam the back alley of some ghettos in the US. I want to make sure that nobody starts something that will end up affecting EVERYONE. Say, you will start reporting folks who you THINK or deem to be frauds to the Consulate to investigate. All of the sudden, the Consulate realize "HOLLY COW, there are so many cases that potentially frauds and we need to STOP everything and investigate everything all over. Delay everyone, let work this out with this Sweetiewynn2 guy... he's a good guy who reports crimes"

Great! Now guys like Mike and Huong will be PISSED out of his you know what, because his case is almost done. Just because of some guy who reports something... now HCMC stops processing his case! I know I'll be pretty mad! In short, the current system is pretty straight forward, NOT the best, but it works 80% of the times. People who went through with lot worse circumstances than yours, got through no problem in the end.

I hope you do what you can to help YOUR case and try to avoid creating more roadblocks for other. Believe it or not, the Consulate does have their own investigator who they actually send to your locality to verify your facts (living arrangement of your fiance, her jobs, asking your neighbor) You know what, maybe they did, and your fiance's neighbor might have thought your case was fraud and report it you? (twisted!) No, I have no doubt or no reason to give doubt in your case but it could happens. You can not control the C.O.'s gutfeeling and instince he/she has developed during their time working at the consulate, their experience with Vietnamese and they may claim: We can spot LIES!

Yes, they may not CARE about your report of crimes for some reasons, and NO they don't need to explain anything to you, why? You are the one who in need of their service and approval! You can't demand what you can't have Have you ever thought, by walking up to some C.O. to tell them: Hey, I found frauds in these cases A, B, C. Can I get a visa for my wife now? Good trade huh? The initial reaction from the C.O. would be: Who the #### is this guy to tell me how screw up I am to approved these cases? Are you questioning my competency? Security!!! Please remove this guy from me!

Yeah, that's how it is at the consulate. You and all people will need a little grace, like it or not, you need them more than they need you. Need to think through and not to be afraid when you start blowing the whistle, but there will be consiquence IF things don't work out the way we think it would in our head.

What I said above is just another point of view that MAY be seen in the light of HCMC, of couse it could never happen to any of us. My only advice right now to you is Focus on your case and your case only, prepare to fight the consulate if they don't get your visa. Redirect your negative energy to positive out-come for you and your fiance rather than looking for frauds and reporting them. Don't lose focus brother, the end game is: Get your honey here!!!! Reporting frauds to get visa is NOT your job and that's why I say you are wasting your time. Pick your battle, this is not one of them! IMHO

Good luck and may the VJ force be with you

chuck and kim

[sweetiewynn2 0]

I hear what you're saying everyone. I am surprised at the response but let me just assure anyone worried that I'm not on a wild goose chase here and would NEVER and I mean never ever make a false claim. I'm not talking about speculation or jealousy here, I am talking about admitted crime and being in a position to stop it. It almost makes it my duty, no? Sure, I wish our case flew through like a lot of people's, but does that make me hate them? Are you crazy? Me neither! Actually I am not jealous of any couple who has had more success than we have and if you think that about me you have judged me very wrongly and actually it makes me wonder, why would you even consider that I would go around making some sort of false claims with the intention of holding up someone's case? My god, if anyone understands the frustration of this process I think I am one of those. No way would I ever want to be the cause of delay for anyone, even if I didn't like the person! That's just sickness you're thinking about and I do realize that it probably does happen a lot like you say with jealous neighbors and the like. I don't doubt it but my god, if you've judged me as one of those you are severely mistaken.

I just want to make that clear.