has anyone here married a nurse from the Philippines?

[Atencio 43]

Your wife may take the NCLEX without undergoing or passing the NLE in the Philippines. She just have to apply for the examination thru state that does not require CGFNS like California. After she can pass the NCLEX, she can apply for Licensure by Endorsement in the state where she's interested to work that requires CGNFS. Usually the applicant for Licensure by Endorsement is no longer required to take/pass the CGFNS. In my case here in Georgia, I just had a Credential Evaluation Service (CES)(by submitting copy of my transcripts) to the CGFNS for the endorsement process.

But if she intends to take the NCLEX thru the state which requires CGFNS, then she has to pass CGFNS before she can sit down the NCLEX..it's a looong way process.

That works in some states but according to what I am reading it wont work in New Hampshire

which states under licensure by endorsement:

In order to apply for a license by endorsement, you must have an active license in another state. In addition, you must meet the continuing competence requirements in NH which include having earned 30 continuing education contact hours in the past 2 years, and having been "active in practice" for a minimum of 400 hours in the past 4 years. "Active in practice" means working in your license category, either for pay or in a volunteer status. Information about continuing competence can be found under Continuing Competence and directions and forms for license application are available under Forms.

http://www.nh.gov/nursing/licensure/general_info.htm

Look under #5

[piglett 16]

That works in some states but according to what I am reading it wont work in New Hampshire

which states under licensure by endorsement:

In order to apply for a license by endorsement, you must have an active license in another state. In addition, you must meet the continuing competence requirements in NH which include having earned 30 continuing education contact hours in the past 2 years, and having been "active in practice" for a minimum of 400 hours in the past 4 years. "Active in practice" means working in your license category, either for pay or in a volunteer status. Information about continuing competence can be found under Continuing Competence and directions and forms for license application are available under Forms.

http://www.nh.gov/nursing/licensure/general_info.htm

Look under #5

I see what you are talking about but...... they keep saying "another state"

would this also apply to "another country" ?

i know there must be foreign nurses working in new hampshire , so how did they do it ??

there has to be a way.......rite?

i will have to see if i can find a new hampshire nursing site & see what other info i can dig up.

It almost looks like it may be up to the people in new hampshire who are doing her paperwork ??? maybe not , but it looks like this whole deal could go a couple of different ways & there may be some " gray area"

thanks

piglett

[piglett 16]

Hey i also have a plan (B)

rent an apartment in either Maine or Vermont so my wife can work from there for a year.

then transfer to new hampshire.

I don't like it but it could work if nothing else does.

piglett

[Atencio 43]

Hey i also have a plan (B)

rent an apartment in either Maine or Vermont so my wife can work from there for a year.

then transfer to new hampshire.

I don't like it but it could work if nothing else does.

piglett

The problem is not that she is a foreign nurse. From what I quoted a nurse needs four years of experience as a "RN" to transfer over a license from another state. Now since your soon to be wife is a new nurse this to me is the sticking point for the endorsement to work. If she were a foreign nurse with the four years experience I think you could do it.

I would suggest two things at this point.

1. None of us really know for sure about New Hampshire nursing regs. I would make a couple of calls. Maybe ask the straight question first on fiancee coming directly from Philippines as a new nurse. Then I might have a friend call and ask same question but say fiancee got nursing license in another state.

2. Have your fiancee take the CGFNS. Part of the test will be on nursing which she will have to study for anyway. The other part is English. I am not sure how strong she is in this part but maybe have her take some classes to help or you help yourself. She passes the CGFNS and NCLEX then you don't have to worry about any of these other options.

[piglett 16]

The problem is not that she is a foreign nurse. From what I quoted a nurse needs four years of experience as a "RN" to transfer over a license from another state. Now since your soon to be wife is a new nurse this to me is the sticking point for the endorsement to work. If she were a foreign nurse with the four years experience I think you could do it.

She has already been working as a nurse for 5 years....but she has never taken the RN test. Instead she took the 1st job offered to her & that was that.

I would suggest two things at this point.

1. None of us really know for sure about New Hampshire nursing regs. I would make a couple of calls. Maybe ask the straight question first on fiancee coming directly from Philippines as a new nurse. Then I might have a friend call and ask same question but say fiancee got nursing license in another state.

Her & i are already married so she will not be coming here as my fiancee but instead will receive her green card once she arrives here in the CR-1 visa.

2. Have your fiancee take the CGFNS. Part of the test will be on nursing which she will have to study for anyway. The other part is English. I am not sure how strong she is in this part but maybe have her take some classes to help or you help yourself. She passes the CGFNS and NCLEX then you don't have to worry about any of these other options.

her english is very good, the nursing classes in the Philippines are taught in english.my understanding is that the nursing boards in the philippines are tough to pass so if she can do that maybe the CGFNS & NCLEX will not be all that tough for her when she gets around to taking those???? i hope so anyhow

thanks

piglett

[Atencio 43]

Well that is good that she has been a nurse for 5 years. You are ok as far as experience goes. You could have her do the exam in another state and not worry about CGFNS. On the other-hand you may want to have her try a couple of CGFNS practice tests and see how she does. If she does ok then just go for it.

[piglett 16]

Well that is good that she has been a nurse for 5 years. You are ok as far as experience goes. You could have her do the exam in another state and not worry about CGFNS. On the other-hand you may want to have her try a couple of CGFNS practice tests and see how she does. If she does ok then just go for it.

hey straight out of a review class she mite do really well, guess we will see.

thanks

piglett

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[tallcoolone 102]

I am just wondering if anyone here has married a nurse from another country.

my wife is from the Philippines & she has never taken her review class so she could be an RN.

rite now she is just working as what we would call an LPN

her review class ( she found one close by in Manila) will start on Aug. 9Th & it will be 2.5 months long.

then there is about a 1 month wait till she can take the big test.

piglett

I don't think they have LPN in Philippines, You wife may be a nurse assistance. I would have her send you a copy of her diploma and a copy of her transcripts and see what type of degree she has.

In my opinion, I would not waste her time nor your money on a review course in the Philippines for RN, Wait till she gets to USA and take the review class here. It's only a week and with study guide material and online review, she will be much better to pass NCLEX

Edited June 29, 2010 by tallcoolone

[alienlovechild 75]

well thanks for the info.

are you saying that you don't think she even needs to pass the nursing boards there in the Philippines ?

piglett

You're welcome.

YES. I am saying that she does not need to take/pass the NLE in the Philippines. You are living in New Hampshire state? am I right? And you want your wife/fiancee to work in that same state? If so, you can have your fiancee acquire USRN license in two ways: by exam or by endorsement in that state as i understand it. Her Philippine RN license will no longer be needed when she will apply in New hampshire BON for licensure.

I looked up at the application form for Licensure by Examination for Registered Nurse in New Hampshire Board Of Nursing website..It does not require CGFNS. Refer from this link (http://www.nh.gov/nursing/general/index.html#forms) and click the Application for Licensure by Exam under Registered Nurse. I did not see any requirement of CGFNS.

If you want her to apply for licensure by endorsement in NEw Hampshire BON, it's also feasible. Refer from this link (http://www.nh.gov/nursing/general/index.html#forms) and then click "Application for Licensure by Endorsement" under Registered Nurse. You will be directed to that form. If you will look into its special notice on their form it says " Please note: You must have worked as a nurse for a minimum of 400 hours in the past 4 years and have completed 30 education contact hours within the past 2 years in order to be eligible for licensure in New Hampshire OR have successfully completed the licensing examination within the 2 years immediately prior to this application in order to be eligible for licensure in New Hampshire..

So if your wife will take the NCLEX by applying it thru the state that does not require CGFNS like California, she's qualified to apply for licensure by endorsement in New Hampshire BON with reference to that option I underlined above as I understand it. She just have to apply within the next two years after passing the NCLEX.

Hope that will help you.

Edited June 29, 2010 by alienlovechild

[Atencio 43]

If you want her to apply for licensure by endorsement in NEw Hampshire BON, it's also feasible. Refer from this link (http://www.nh.gov/nursing/general/index.html#forms) and then click "Application for Licensure by Endorsement" under Registered Nurse. You will be directed to that form. If you will look into its special notice on their form it says " Please note: You must have worked as a nurse for a minimum of 400 hours in the past 4 years and have completed 30 education contact hours within the past 2 years in order to be eligible for licensure in New Hampshire OR have successfully completed the licensing examination within the 2 years immediately prior to this application in order to be eligible for licensure in New Hampshire..

You know Piglett you need to call the New Hampshire Board of Nursing and ask them in person. The information above contradicts the information also found on the New Hampshire website:

"5. How do I apply for a NH license by endorsement?

http://www.nh.gov/nursing/licensure/general_info.htm

In order to apply for a license by endorsement, you must have an active license in another state. In addition, you must meet the continuing competence requirements in NH which include having earned 30 continuing education contact hours in the past 2 years, and having been "active in practice" for a minimum of 400 hours in the past 4 years. "Active in practice" means working in your license category, either for pay or in a volunteer status." IT does not mention the "Or" part. I am willing to bet that alienlovechild's reference is more accurate since it was found on the application but I would call the NH Board and take care of all this second guessing.

I still think your best bet would be to have your wife try a practice CGFNS and see if she can pass especially as you say her English is strong. If she decides to take the NCLEX in California I would strongly advise to get her transcripts in as soon as she can in case the BRN wants clarification from her on classes she took. Either way I think you have about a four month wait.

I disagree about waiting to study for the NCLEX. All she is doing is wasting time when she could be reviewing. If nothing else mail her a NCLEX question and answer book with rationales for answers. The NCLEX pass rates for Filipino nurses is terrible at about 35% if I remember correctly. Much of this is due from repeaters at flaky schools but still the more studying the better.

[alienlovechild 75]

If I were the OP, you just let your wife come over here in the US without taking/passing the NLE in the Philippines. Then let your wife/fiancee take the NCLEX by applying it thru the New Hampshire Board of Nursing. It is a waste of time and money undergoing the endorsement process.

I missed to read the portion about CGFNS in their (New Hampshire) application form for Licensure by Exam which says "Graduates of foreign registered nurse programs must submit official evidence of successful completion of the Commission of Foreign Nursing Schools (CGFNS) examination or CGFNS full course by course credentials evaluation." In that underlined item, that is an option for your fiancee to have her transcripts of records submitted direct from her nursing school be evaluated by the CGFNS. She'll be fine and qualify to sit down the NCLEX. There is no need for her to take the CGFNS exam. This is also true and very much the same process I underwent when I got my license here in Georgia. The difference only is that it was endorsement process and not by licensure by exam. I had Full Course Credential Evaluation by the CGFNS. The CGFNS will determine if her nursing program in the Philippine is equivalent here in US and the CGFNS will notify directly the Board of Nursing.

[piglett 16]

i will insert a post that i received on while on another forum (it's more of an advice on dating foreign ladies type forum) it sort of ends where this site picks up.

anyhow here is the post from a member named Howard who parried a nurse from the "PI"

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I just wanna pipe in on the Nursing License. No matter what else you do you need to make sure that she is licensed in the Philipines BEFORE she gets here. My wife got her batchelors, but didn't want to talke the test in Manila, because she would have had to stay a while longer to get in on the next exam. I WISH I could do it all over again! Between her school delaying transcripts, always needing some new fee in addition to the ones we have already paid and CGFNS fees and requirements, I am now resigned to the fact that she will never - as in ever - get her nursing license. This has caused us no end of hardship financially and emotionally. Finally, recently, we just agreed to let it go for the sake of our marriage and move on.

If no one here learns anything else from my triumphs and failures - mostly triumphs - learn this one lesson:

If your honey is a nursing student and she intends to work in the US as a nurse at any point in the future, GET HER LICENSED IN THE PHILIPPINES!!! There are still a few hoops to jump through to get her licensed here, but they are WAY less painful and expensive

Good Luck Man!

Keep the Faith!

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So knowing that the risk exists that my wife mite never be able to work as a nurse here if i don't do this rite i think i'll contact the new hampshire BON & just ask them.

the web site almost looks to say different things things in different areas ???? strange

In fact they are little more than an hour away so i think i'll just go see them the next time i get a rainy day here & have a little face to face time with them.

that way i know for sure what they really want/need from my wife do she can be an RN here.

however i wish to thank everyone that offered advice on this subject.

piglett

[Atencio 43]

I agree about calling. I just get more confused the more I read about it. I keep seeing different opinions on things. I still stand pat on one thing though. Make sure your wife studies and studies more for the NCLEX. I am not sure about the benefit of taking the NCLEX in the Philippines vs. the United States but if you getting so many replies to do so it is worth thinking about. Maybe stress would be less? Keep in mind that as of April of this year the NCSBN raised the pass rate needed for NCLEX.

The other suggestion I have is to have your wife search some of the Filipino nursing websites. She can probably find good information on studying and licensure.

I wish your wife the best of luck

[piglett 16]

The other suggestion I have is to have your wife search some of the Filipino nursing websites. She can probably find good information on studying and licensure.

I wish your wife the best of luck

I will also have her check that out herself.

the way i look at it is like this

she has a year so why not put it to good use & get the NCLEX out of the way???

or she can just keep working for $182 a month 6 days a week 12 hours a day.

i think it's a no brainer unless there is some reason that she should not take the NCLEX over there & i have yet to come up with that yet.

thanks

piglett

[pixie77 2]

I'm not sure if this will help but my former housemate didn't take the the Philippine board, she applied to take the NCLEX exam here in New York, she passed and now she's a nurse working in one of the hospitals in Queens. She did a self-review, went to the library for additional books and resources and took the online review tests.

I hope everything works out just fine for both of you. Best of luck!