i love liberals!

[Carol&Marc 0]

frerelance writer = unemployed

Freelance writer on weekends. I have a f/t job during the week in NYC. Of course, my employment background is completely irrelevant to the subject at hand - but I thought I'd put things in perspective for you.

There isnt a post long enough for your qualification, you would just come off with more of the same old BLATHER!

are you just a troll looking for arguements,I think the dr. phil forums would be a great place for you! I know it would be hard to give up those beautiful hearts youve so dearly earned (sarcasm)

have a good day!

As usual we turn to ridicule in the absence of a coherent argument. Unfortunately for you, it only further highlights your inability to discuss the issues. Ignorance doesn't seem to stop you shouting the odds though

More Blather, its ridicule when its aimed at you, but when you spew it you call it satire, SPIN SPIN! your really quite amusing to watch!

you want me to qualify that remark

Edited October 1, 2006 by Carol&Marc

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

frerelance writer = unemployed

Freelance writer on weekends. I have a f/t job during the week in NYC. Of course, my employment background is completely irrelevant to the subject at hand - but I thought I'd put things in perspective for you.

There isnt a post long enough for your qualification, you would just come off with more of the same old BLATHER!

are you just a troll looking for arguements,I think the dr. phil forums would be a great place for you! I know it would be hard to give up those beautiful hearts youve so dearly earned (sarcasm)

have a good day!

As usual we turn to ridicule in the absence of a coherent argument. Unfortunately for you, it only further highlights your inability to discuss the issues. Ignorance doesn't seem to stop you shouting the odds though

More Blather, its ridicule when its aimed at you, but when you spew it you call it satire, SPIN SPIN! your really quite amusing to watch!

you want me to qualify that remark

Actually I would. But you won't/can't - at least not without twisting the meaning of the original words to such an extent that they lose context and their original meaning.

As I said, I don't see what's so unreasonable in answering the questions of those who have answered yours - in other words actually participating in the discussion.

Anyway you can have the last word - you keep ignoring the questions posed by other posters as well who have answered yours, with some tact and politeness I might add.

But again you don't want to participate in a civilised discussion - I've no doubt now that you were looking for very specific answers to your "simple questions", as you continue to throw out soundbites and slogans. In that context it seems clear that ANY contrary opinion that someone might have automatically becomes "liberal" by virtue of it not being on the autocue.

As I said, your evasion speaks volumes. But I'm sure you can convince everyone of your arguments by ridiculing everyone and NOT participating in the discussion. Makes you wonder why you bother - is it because you actually disagree with people, or simply because you don't like anyone who opposes the administration?

[Jenn! 918]

What's the question again?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

BTW - satire is actually a quite specific form of ironic humour. Here's ILIKEALLCAPS post again.

They're anti-American because they make Carol&Marc confused, unsure, angry, or doubtful.....and Carol&Marc is, of course, the definition of American. If you're dissin' Carol&Marc, you're dissin' America! Heck, they're so American they smell like apple pie and use the constitution for toilet tissue! Come on, all you true Americans, lets get together and burn some books, paint some slogans on signs (houses, churches....wherever them 'liberals' hang out), and crush this horrible concept of "thought" before it catches on! How can we sit idly by and let a true Patriot like Carol&Marc be dissed by having their questions answered, and worse.....having questions asked of them as if they were participating in a civilized discussion! Lets end this before rationality rears its ugly head!

Here's the definition of satire according to Wikipedia:

Satire is a technique of writing or art which exposes the follies of its subject (for example, individuals, organizations, or states) to ridicule, often as an intended means of provoking or preventing change. The humor of satire tends to be subtle, using irony and deadpan humor liberally.

Here is your post:

There isnt a post long enough for your qualification, wink.gif you would just come off with more of the same old BLATHER!

timeline.gif are you just a troll looking for arguements,I think the dr. phil forums would be a great place for you! I know it would be hard to give up those beautiful hearts youve so dearly earned (sarcasm)

have a good day!

Please point out the irony in that statement. See the difference?

What's the question again?

They're on page 5 or 6 I believe.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Case Closed!

Hmmm... Deja Vu...

[ikbrooks 0]

The Ku Klux Klan? Oral Roberts and Bob Jones University?

Oh I want to go to BJU! Taking bets on how long it takes for me to get kicked out.

2-1 odds are on less than 5 minutes

Why don't you all just cut to the chase and go to the source of what we Christians believe? The Bible is the source! Not "The Ku Klux Klan? Oral Roberts and Bob Jones University". That may explain much of your dingy (din-gee not ding-ee) outlook on life and all things Christian. Go to the Creator not the creation.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

The Ku Klux Klan? Oral Roberts and Bob Jones University?

Oh I want to go to BJU! Taking bets on how long it takes for me to get kicked out.

2-1 odds are on less than 5 minutes

Why don't you all just cut to the chase and go to the source of what we Christians believe? The Bible is the source! Not "The Ku Klux Klan? Oral Roberts and Bob Jones University". That may explain much of your dingy (din-gee not ding-ee) outlook on life and all things Christian. Go to the Creator not the creation.

Apparantly, not all Christians interpret the Bible the same way. Just as there are many factions of Muslims, so are there Christians, from fundamentalists to liberal.

[Fuzzness 2]

The Ku Klux Klan? Oral Roberts and Bob Jones University?

Oh I want to go to BJU! Taking bets on how long it takes for me to get kicked out.

2-1 odds are on less than 5 minutes

Why don't you all just cut to the chase and go to the source of what we Christians believe? The Bible is the source! Not "The Ku Klux Klan? Oral Roberts and Bob Jones University". That may explain much of your dingy (din-gee not ding-ee) outlook on life and all things Christian. Go to the Creator not the creation.

Well if you took that as an attack on Christians, then that's your problem. I think most people here who have the ability to think understood I was making fun of BJU, not christianity.

[Carol&Marc 0]

Lieberman lost the Democratic primary to political newcomer Ned Lamont, whose only real campaign issue was that of tying Lieberman to Bush and Iraq. Lamont needs nothing else to get the support of the vituperative left. Bashing Bush over Iraq and equating Lieberman with it, is all the left needs to hear.

But really, that is all that is needed to appease the “I hate Bush and his mother” crowd. This bunch of thirtysomething leftist kooks who are still living with mommy and daddy would sooner kiss a crocodile on the lips then ever let Bush just fade out of his presidency. It is an obsession that has overtaken anything positive the Democratic Party ever had planned for the country.

I found this to be why, I love liberals so much!

[almaty 19]

yawns

[Jenn! 918]

Where exactly are all of these supposed Bush bashers that do nothing with their lives except hate Bush and his administration? I haven't met any of them. It seems to me that the real obsession is with seeking out people who have different opinions and totally exaggerating their fervor.

[PsychoKat 0]

The Ku Klux Klan? Oral Roberts and Bob Jones University?

Oh I want to go to BJU! Taking bets on how long it takes for me to get kicked out.

2-1 odds are on less than 5 minutes

Why don't you all just cut to the chase and go to the source of what we Christians believe? The Bible is the source! Not "The Ku Klux Klan? Oral Roberts and Bob Jones University". That may explain much of your dingy (din-gee not ding-ee) outlook on life and all things Christian. Go to the Creator not the creation.

Apparantly, not all Christians interpret the Bible the same way. Just as there are many factions of Muslims, so are there Christians, from fundamentalists to liberal.

I have to agree with you about interpretation.

Personally I consider this a good example of this.

Christianism or Christian Nationalism is analogous to Islamism.

Heh. Yeah, analogous to Islamism. Minus, you know, the terrorism.

You don't want to deny that there are Christian terrorist who are motivated by what they see as their mission in a similar way as Islamic terrorist are, do you? Or do you think that there's a difference because they are not really Christian.

All I know is that our book doesn't tell us to kill the non-believers.

Anyway, back to the article...

Deuteronomy 13

13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.

13:5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.

13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;

13:7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;

13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:

13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.

13:11 And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.

13:12 If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there,

saying,

13:13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known;

13:14 Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;

13:15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.

13:16 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.

I suppose it is possible that I myself have misinterpreted this passage, but to me it really does appear that at this point is in fact saying that non-believers should be, even MUST be killed. If I am mistaken my apologies, but if so please take a moment to clarify this for me?

[Carol&Marc 0]

Where exactly are all of these supposed Bush bashers that do nothing with their lives except hate Bush and his administration? I haven't met any of them. It seems to me that the real obsession is with seeking out people who have different opinions and totally exaggerating their fervor.

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi called Chavez "an everyday thug." "You don't come into my country, you don't come into my congressional district, and you don't condemn my president," said Rep. Charlie Rangel, D-N.Y. Yes, the same Rangel who, after the Supreme Court ruled in Bush's favor in the 2000 presidential election, pronounced the decision an "injustice." With this newfound patriotic fervor, Democrats lashed into Hugo Chavez. Why, how dare he criticize President Bush in a demeaning, brutal fashion!

Here's the question. Where were the neo-defenders of Bush when Democrats repeatedly, and viciously, said virtually the same thing as did Chavez?

Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y.: "I sometimes feel as though Alfred E. Neuman is in charge in Washington."

Former President Jimmy Carter: "Regardless of the costs, there are determined efforts by top U.S. leaders to exert American imperial dominance throughout the world. These revolutionary policies have been orchestrated by those who believe that our nation's tremendous power and influence should not be internationally constrained

Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass.: "Week after week after week after week, we were told lie after lie after lie after lie. And now, despite the increasingly restless Iraqi population, the administration still refuses to face the truth, or to tell the truth."

Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.: "Their plan is lie and die. And that's what they're doing. They lie to America about what's happening on the ground, they lie about why we're there, they lie about what's happening."

Rep. John Murtha D-Pa.: "Our troops [in Haditha] . . . killed innocent civilians in cold blood." (Murtha said this before there was an investigation. He later apologized.)

Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.: Bush is a "loser" and a "liar." (Reid later apologized for loser, not liar.)

Michael Moore, the guy the Democrats granted a seat next to former President Jimmy Carter during the Democratic National Convention, called President Bush a "deserter," said "there is no terrorist threat" and denounced the war in Iraq, arguing that America entered into it because of "the oil companies, Israel, Halliburton."

there you go! I havent met them either! LOL

Edited October 3, 2006 by Carol&Marc

[Jenn! 918]

Where exactly are all of these supposed Bush bashers that do nothing with their lives except hate Bush and his administration? I haven't met any of them. It seems to me that the real obsession is with seeking out people who have different opinions and totally exaggerating their fervor.

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi called Chavez "an everyday thug." "You don't come into my country, you don't come into my congressional district, and you don't condemn my president," said Rep. Charlie Rangel, D-N.Y. Yes, the same Rangel who, after the Supreme Court ruled in Bush's favor in the 2000 presidential election, pronounced the decision an "injustice." With this newfound patriotic fervor, Democrats lashed into Hugo Chavez. Why, how dare he criticize President Bush in a demeaning, brutal fashion!

Here's the question. Where were the neo-defenders of Bush when Democrats repeatedly, and viciously, said virtually the same thing as did Chavez?

Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y.: "I sometimes feel as though Alfred E. Neuman is in charge in Washington."

Former President Jimmy Carter: "Regardless of the costs, there are determined efforts by top U.S. leaders to exert American imperial dominance throughout the world. These revolutionary policies have been orchestrated by those who believe that our nation's tremendous power and influence should not be internationally constrained

Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass.: "Week after week after week after week, we were told lie after lie after lie after lie. And now, despite the increasingly restless Iraqi population, the administration still refuses to face the truth, or to tell the truth."

Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.: "Their plan is lie and die. And that's what they're doing. They lie to America about what's happening on the ground, they lie about why we're there, they lie about what's happening."

Rep. John Murtha D-Pa.: "Our troops [in Haditha] . . . killed innocent civilians in cold blood." (Murtha said this before there was an investigation. He later apologized.)

Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.: Bush is a "loser" and a "liar." (Reid later apologized for loser, not liar.)

Michael Moore, the guy the Democrats granted a seat next to former President Jimmy Carter during the Democratic National Convention, called President Bush a "deserter," said "there is no terrorist threat" and denounced the war in Iraq, arguing that America entered into it because of "the oil companies, Israel, Halliburton."

there you go! I havent met them either! LOL

Yup, a bunch of people with different opinions. Oh, the horror!

ETA: Talk about conspiracy theories...

Edited October 3, 2006 by jenn3539

[Carol&Marc 0]

Where exactly are all of these supposed Bush bashers that do nothing with their lives except hate Bush and his administration? I haven't met any of them. It seems to me that the real obsession is with seeking out people who have different opinions and totally exaggerating their fervor.

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi called Chavez "an everyday thug." "You don't come into my country, you don't come into my congressional district, and you don't condemn my president," said Rep. Charlie Rangel, D-N.Y. Yes, the same Rangel who, after the Supreme Court ruled in Bush's favor in the 2000 presidential election, pronounced the decision an "injustice." With this newfound patriotic fervor, Democrats lashed into Hugo Chavez. Why, how dare he criticize President Bush in a demeaning, brutal fashion!

Here's the question. Where were the neo-defenders of Bush when Democrats repeatedly, and viciously, said virtually the same thing as did Chavez?

Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y.: "I sometimes feel as though Alfred E. Neuman is in charge in Washington."

Former President Jimmy Carter: "Regardless of the costs, there are determined efforts by top U.S. leaders to exert American imperial dominance throughout the world. These revolutionary policies have been orchestrated by those who believe that our nation's tremendous power and influence should not be internationally constrained

Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass.: "Week after week after week after week, we were told lie after lie after lie after lie. And now, despite the increasingly restless Iraqi population, the administration still refuses to face the truth, or to tell the truth."

Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.: "Their plan is lie and die. And that's what they're doing. They lie to America about what's happening on the ground, they lie about why we're there, they lie about what's happening."

Rep. John Murtha D-Pa.: "Our troops [in Haditha] . . . killed innocent civilians in cold blood." (Murtha said this before there was an investigation. He later apologized.)

Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.: Bush is a "loser" and a "liar." (Reid later apologized for loser, not liar.)

Michael Moore, the guy the Democrats granted a seat next to former President Jimmy Carter during the Democratic National Convention, called President Bush a "deserter," said "there is no terrorist threat" and denounced the war in Iraq, arguing that America entered into it because of "the oil companies, Israel, Halliburton."

there you go! I havent met them either! LOL

Yup, a bunch of people with different opinions. Oh, the horror!

ETA: Talk about conspiracy theories...

you wanted to know where the Bush bashers were I showed you a few, I know they have different opinions! and its fine to have a debate on issues, but to make statements such as this is absolutely hilarious. Where is the opinion in their Quotes? Its just plain bashing and absolutely no ideas of their own!