applying for the I-129 F

[Yodrak 7]

Mew,

They might be, although I haven't heard of it happening for quite some time now.

But won't you be applying for adjustment of status sometime soon?

[Edit: Whoops, sorry about that. But before the end of the year anyway.]

Yodrak

Mew,

A consulate may not need translations, but the USCIS does.

Yodrak

Yes, but the beneficiary is not asked to send their birth certificate when the petitioner sends I-129f and G325a's.

Edited August 9, 2006 by Yodrak

[Mew 0]

Mew,

They might be, although I haven't heard of it happening for quite some time now.

But won't you be applying for adjustment of status sometime soon?

Yodrak

Mew,

A consulate may not need translations, but the USCIS does.

Yodrak

Yes, but the beneficiary is not asked to send their birth certificate when the petitioner sends I-129f and G325a's.

Yodrak,

The OP asked about what is needed to apply for a K1, and I answered accordingly, going as far as the interview held at the US consulate in Rio de Janeiro. Even so, the translation quote I have bolded in another thread started by the same OP asking about translations takes care of the AOS stage.

11.3 Foreign Language Documents and Translations

(a) Document Translations. All documents submitted in support of an application or petition must include complete translation into English. In addition, there must be a certification from the translator indicating that the translation is complete and accurate and attesting to his or her competence as a translator. See 8 CFR 103.2(B)(3).

- bolded by me.

Nowhere in the instructions on either I129f or G325a I found anything mentioning that the beneficiary of a K1 should send their birth certificate. They are asked to send G325a and a passport picture.

Edited August 9, 2006 by Mew

[Leasel7 1]

Just speaking from my experience, no birth certificate even existed for my fiance at the time we were assembling the I-129F petition. He was born on an island with no hospital, and apparently his parents never saw a need to obtain a birth certificate for him. So we did not send any birth certificates with the I-129F; as the USC, I supplied a copy of my passport instead of my birth certificate. Once we found out that a birth certificate would be needed for his K1 interview, my fiance had to get his mother and eldest brother to verify the details of his birth so he could obtain his birth certificate at the ripe old age of 29. So he had the original birth certificate for his K1 interview, and then of course we sent a copy of it with his AOS submission.

Edited August 9, 2006 by Leasel7

[Yodrak 7]

Mew,

Yes, these things are true. I was merely trying to point out that the USCIS is going to want to see a birth certificate with translation. It may be at the petition stage (once again, the CSC was infamous for their RFEs for that until relatively recently) or it may be later for adjustment. So it does him a dis-service to tell him that he doesn't need to translate any documents because the consulate does not need translations. Sooner or later he will need translated documents.

Yodrak

Yodrak,

The OP asked about what is needed to apply for a K1, and I answered accordingly, going as far as the interview held at the US consulate in Rio de Janeiro. Even so, the translation quote I have bolded in another thread started by the same OP asking about translations takes care of the AOS stage.

11.3 Foreign Language Documents and Translations

(a) Document Translations. All documents submitted in support of an application or petition must include complete translation into English. In addition, there must be a certification from the translator indicating that the translation is complete and accurate and attesting to his or her competence as a translator. See 8 CFR 103.2( B) (3).

- bolded by me.

Nowhere in the instructions on either I129f or G325a I found anything mentioning that the beneficiary of a K1 should send their birth certificate. They are asked to send G325a and a passport picture.

[Mew 0]

Mew,

Yes, these things are true. I was merely trying to point out that the USCIS is going to want to see a birth certificate with translation. It may be at the petition stage (once again, the CSC was infamous for their RFEs for that until relatively recently) or it may be later for adjustment. So it does him a dis-service to tell him that he doesn't need to translate any documents because the consulate does not need translations. Sooner or later he will need translated documents.

Yodrak

Yodrak,

The OP asked about what is needed to apply for a K1, and I answered accordingly, going as far as the interview held at the US consulate in Rio de Janeiro. Even so, the translation quote I have bolded in another thread started by the same OP asking about translations takes care of the AOS stage.

11.3 Foreign Language Documents and Translations

(a) Document Translations. All documents submitted in support of an application or petition must include complete translation into English. In addition, there must be a certification from the translator indicating that the translation is complete and accurate and attesting to his or her competence as a translator. See 8 CFR 103.2( B) (3).

- bolded by me.

Nowhere in the instructions on either I129f or G325a I found anything mentioning that the beneficiary of a K1 should send their birth certificate. They are asked to send G325a and a passport picture.

Yodrak, I apologize if I was unclear when I tried to say that translations of documents written in Portuguese are not needed at the consulate:

Actually, there's no need to translate any documents that are written in Portuguese or English. The consulate doesn't need the translations.

Also, I don't see why she'd have to translate a birth certificate to go to the courthouse.

- bolded by me

In any case, the OP now has the info he needed.

[Yodrak 7]

Mew,

You were quite clear when you wrote that documents written in Portuguese do not need to be translated into English for the consulate. And as you pointed out to me, the OP was asking about needing a translated birth certificate for his I-129f petition to the USCIS.

Agreed, he now has answers that tell him what he needs and doesn't need all the way through the process.

Yodrak

Mew,

Yes, these things are true. I was merely trying to point out that the USCIS is going to want to see a birth certificate with translation. It may be at the petition stage (once again, the CSC was infamous for their RFEs for that until relatively recently) or it may be later for adjustment. So it does him a dis-service to tell him that he doesn't need to translate any documents because the consulate does not need translations. Sooner or later he will need translated documents.

Yodrak

Yodrak,

The OP asked about what is needed to apply for a K1, and I answered accordingly, going as far as the interview held at the US consulate in Rio de Janeiro. Even so, the translation quote I have bolded in another thread started by the same OP asking about translations takes care of the AOS stage.

11.3 Foreign Language Documents and Translations

(a) Document Translations. All documents submitted in support of an application or petition must include complete translation into English. In addition, there must be a certification from the translator indicating that the translation is complete and accurate and attesting to his or her competence as a translator. See 8 CFR 103.2( B) (3).

- bolded by me.

Nowhere in the instructions on either I129f or G325a I found anything mentioning that the beneficiary of a K1 should send their birth certificate. They are asked to send G325a and a passport picture.

Yodrak, I apologize if I was unclear when I tried to say that translations of documents written in Portuguese are not needed at the consulate:

Actually, there's no need to translate any documents that are written in Portuguese or English. The consulate doesn't need the translations.

Also, I don't see why she'd have to translate a birth certificate to go to the courthouse.

- bolded by me

In any case, the OP now has the info he needed.

[Mew 0]

Mew,

You were quite clear when you wrote that documents written in Portuguese do not need to be translated into English for the consulate. And as you pointed out to me, the OP was asking about needing a translated birth certificate for his I-129f petition to the USCIS.

Agreed, he now has answers that tell him what he needs and doesn't need all the way through the process.

Yodrak

I went straight to a later stage, because I simply didn't understand why he'd be asking about the translation of the beneficiary's birth certificate to apply, since it's not a requirement. I kept that 'logical' step to myself, thinking that maybe he confused what was needed at which stage of the process. In view of that, you're right. I may have created some confusion.

Edited August 9, 2006 by Mew

[rbiedlingmaier 0]

To put this discussion to an end I appreciate all the responses. I should have made it more clear when i asked the question. The reason i raised the question was beacause a friend of mine recenlty had to send her birthcertificate/translated from portuguese to english, to her attorney she is using right now. This was for the I-129F. The only reason I can account for this is because the attorney may want it because like mentioned it can be a good cause for an RFE. Whatever teh case, i agree with everyone's statements that it is needed later in the process but not for the I-129F. Thanks very much. Also, i mentioned that my fiancee needed to go to the courthouse in Brasil. What i mean by this is as follows to clear any confusion.

When you do your own translation and fill out your affidavit that everythnig is true to the best of your knowledge and ability..... you need to go the courthouse to have someone stamp your signature to prove you are who you said you were on..... It's just like a notary in the U.S., the same thing. Thanks guys. Hope this clears any confusion.

Muito Obrigado

[Yodrak 7]

rbiedlingmaier,

An attorney's job is to do everything they can to make their client's case go smoothly and without unnecessary delay. They are supposed to know all the problems that a case might encounter, which a do-it-yourselfer might not be aware of, and be proactive to avoid the problems. And an experienced attorney would likely know that RFEs for the beneficiary's birth certificate were once quite common.

A do-it-yourselfer can make their own decisions on risking this RFE today (if they are aware of the history), but someone who is paying an attorney good money to minimize risks would be incensed to receive an RFE like this (witness the many posts from VJers who have not been satisfied with their attorney's work.)

Yodrak

To put this discussion to an end I appreciate all the responses. I should have made it more clear when i asked the question. The reason i raised the question was beacause a friend of mine recenlty had to send her birthcertificate/translated from portuguese to english, to her attorney she is using right now. This was for the I-129F. The only reason I can account for this is because the attorney may want it because like mentioned it can be a good cause for an RFE. ....

Muito Obrigado