How do you report K1 fraud?

[DanielParul 50]

Believe it ir not, cheating on one's spouse is not considered immigration fraud hence ICE will really not care. Since your sister is already divorced, he is not doing anything wrong. You can try reporting him to ICE but you will just come across as a bitter sis-in-law (ex).

[Ontarkie 14,221]

I just wanted to get something clarified, you said your sister let him secretly have a second wife. Did he actually marry another women while married to your sister.

[Ellie-and-David 38]

Whilst this situation is morally questionable, technically speaking there is no fraud here.

Is he free to marry?

Has he met the girl within the last 2 years?

Is he in a relationship with her?

If so...he can petition her.

The living situation of the players involved is not of concern, unless his relationship with his girlfriend is being entered in to for immigration benefits. He may be subject to additional scrutiny at the interview and his living situation may even be a barrier to being approved, but as it stands right now.....there is nothing to report to ICE.

I suggest you channel your efforts into giving your sister the strength to leave this destructive relationship.

Edited June 15, 2010 by Ellie-and-David

[Rob and Jill 82]

It's not fraud and it's not really your business either. Your sister is certainly enough of an adult to do what she wants. They are not doing anything illegal however morally questionable you may find it.

[USA Joe 0]

I just wanted to get something clarified, you said your sister let him secretly have a second wife. Did he actually marry another women while married to your sister.

by secret, i meant he married the woman in culture fashion (with downary to woman's parents) while still legally married to my sister. came back to usa. eventually got confronted by my sister. talked my sister to go along with his plan. filed for divorce. got the finalization and now the k1 petition.

yeah i see the point that this may not be fraud. since they are legally divorced. thanks for pointing that fact out.

and to the poster who said it wasnt my buisness (you arent important enough to remember your name) i beg to differ - she's my sister, i ought to look out for her. pity on u since u dont have any sense of family ties. lol

[Boiler 45,486]

Believe it ir not, cheating on one's spouse is not considered immigration fraud hence ICE will really not care. Since your sister is already divorced, he is not doing anything wrong. You can try reporting him to ICE but you will just come across as a bitter sis-in-law (ex).

Ditto

by secret, i meant he married the woman in culture fashion (with downary to woman's parents) while still legally married to my sister. came back to usa. eventually got confronted by my sister. talked my sister to go along with his plan. filed for divorce. got the finalization and now the k1 petition.

yeah i see the point that this may not be fraud. since they are legally divorced. thanks for pointing that fact out.

and to the poster who said it wasnt my buisness (you arent important enough to remember your name) i beg to differ - she's my sister, i ought to look out for her. pity on u since u dont have any sense of family ties. lol

The best you can do is tell your Sister to leave, it is her choice to stay. If she does not want to then it is her choice, she is old enough to make her own decisions.

[idaho_and_surigao 3]

by secret, i meant he married the woman in culture fashion (with downary to woman's parents) while still legally married to my sister. came back to usa. eventually got confronted by my sister. talked my sister to go along with his plan. filed for divorce. got the finalization and now the k1 petition.

yeah i see the point that this may not be fraud. since they are legally divorced. thanks for pointing that fact out.

and to the poster who said it wasnt my buisness (you arent important enough to remember your name) i beg to differ - she's my sister, i ought to look out for her. pity on u since u dont have any sense of family ties. lol

Well, I agree (First time I read it, I thought your (ex)bro in law LEGALLY married the woman in Laos (ie, committed bigamy which is of course Illegal and would certainly be fraud under US law. However, if he is not legally married, its not fraud, and while ICE might scrutinzie the petition and have a lot of questions....its not illegal, just morally bankrupt.

Best of luck,

[engineer21 51]

Hmm.. yes unfortunately I think if the secret marriage in Laos was not legal, you cannot technically call it fraud.

ICE will probably want to see that this man was at some point legally married to 2 women.

I'm surprised the 2nd wife and her family were OK with no legality of their marriage.

I don't know ..

Horrible situation, but since you said he only had a cultural ceremony, I don't know what you can tell ICE if you do report this

I can't blame you for being angry and wanting to do something though!

The guy shouldn't be allowed to do that because, legal ceremony or not, it's still wrong

[Deb+Steve 13]

It's understandable that you feel the way you do. However, your sister is an adult and there may be certain dynamics in their relationship that you're not privy to. Does your sister know what you intend? Have you considered how your actions will affect her and her family? If he is free to petition and marry, then there is no issue for immigration. Let them deal with his living arrangements at interview time.

Your focus needs to be on your sister and her well being. If she considers this situation to be in her own best interests then who are you to judge or try and make her choices for her? You want her to come to you for support and security if and when she decides that it is not for her, don't alienate her in the process.

[Dan J 277]

Polyamory is not illegal, some people may have moral or cultural problems with it. US immigration does not tell people how they should run their lives or what marriage should mean to them. Instead as long as the requirements are met, there is no fraud involved.

[Phayamoa 0]

There are some Lao people out there with secondary wives. Though it may be uncommon, you can sometimes find such families in Laos and Thailand.

You really do not think about the consequences here. You could potentially have your brother-in-law, ARRESTED, thereby destroying your sister's future and her kids future. If your sister is an actual accomplice in this supposed fraud you call it (I don't see any fraud), then she too will be jailed or fined.

I don't know the laws on bigamy, but you need to fully accept the fact that this is indeed Lao culture and is culturally acceptable. Even my Lao wife (fiancee) expressed to me the question if I was going to have a second wife. Weird......

If you are okay with helping your sister footing the jail time and fines for fraud, you should proceed with your decision.

No (means New Opportunities) means you did the right thing, I then I highly commend your lack of effort in supporting your family.

Yes (means Your life ends here) would mean you are going to cause irreparable and permanent damage to people you care about. I hope I am not too late in getting this news across. Otherwise, I hope you see your brother in law and sister out of jail in 5 years. You should start the adoption process for your sister's kids before they are stuffed into foster parenting.

Edited June 16, 2010 by Phayamoa

[Krikit 1,164]

If tipped off, USCIS will look at the living arrangements and take it from there.

Moving topic from K-1 Process to General Immigration Discussion.

[Rob and Jill 82]

and to the poster who said it wasnt my buisness (you arent important enough to remember your name) i beg to differ - she's my sister, i ought to look out for her. pity on u since u dont have any sense of family ties. lol

ROFL

I love it when the best thing people can do is to try and personally insult someone they don't know. I believe this once again goes to show your level of maturity, right along with "I don't like what my sister is going to do so I am going to report her ex". What are you 12?

Your sister is a GROWN WOMAN. She has GRANDKIDS according to your post, so she is perfectly within HER rights to do what SHE wants, and it isn't YOUR BUSINESS. You might not like it, but she is not committing a crime, her ex is not committing a crime, and his future wife is not committing a crime. You can talk to her about it, but at the end of the day it is her decision to do what makes her happy. If those living conditions are how she wants to live her life, you need to let it go if you want to have a sister in your life at all. Grow up.

[cappucino 1]

If anything, this proves this is a bonafide marriage, warts and all. Infidelity, lapses of judgement, co-dependency, abuse, THAT is marriage as much as flowers and sunset walks on the beach for some. Don't waste your time writing a letter.

[USA Joe 0]

Thanks for your messages. Unfortunately it's been brought to my attention that my sister and SOB are legally divorce so its not fraud for a petition.

I was under the impression that, a male living with ex-wife while petitioning for fiance was fraud. Or questionable at least for immigration purpose. Sigh.

In light of this, there's no law broken. So, no need to report. End of thread for me.

::and to my special friend::

Lol. Because posting your opinion on what I should or shouldn't do enlarges your e-peen size, amirite. I love how you tell me to grow up, yet you first shout your unwanted and unwarranted preaching. 1/10 for effort kid