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i've got a sticky dilemma. I was wondering if there's any lawyers here that can answer it.

so my two year anniversary is coming up for my Conditional Permanent Resident. My wife and i were a long time couple and married in 2008, got my PR conditional card in 2009, had two weddings in between those dates.

now here is the sticky part, we moved into a new house that "my" parents purchased in my name. they specifically bought the house as an investment, but also as a gift to us new married couple to "live in". But they insisted on putting only my name on the house only. My parents are very old school Asian parents. Although they say the house is ours, my wife's name is not on the title, and they want to have all the say on everything that we do to the house. Never mind the arguments i've had with my parents about all this, my wife and i decided to buy our own house once we save up enough.

my question is, should i bother to submit the ownership title / purchase agreement of the new house into the pile of evidence in our I-751 application? i am afraid that it'll look bad on the application that "I" purchased the house and not "we".

other than that, we have a pretty good pile of evidence of bills, magazine, insurance, tax return, pictures, travel reservations,... etc.

Posted

i've got a sticky dilemma. I was wondering if there's any lawyers here that can answer it.

so my two year anniversary is coming up for my Conditional Permanent Resident. My wife and i were a long time couple and married in 2008, got my PR conditional card in 2009, had two weddings in between those dates.

now here is the sticky part, we moved into a new house that "my" parents purchased in my name. they specifically bought the house as an investment, but also as a gift to us new married couple to "live in". But they insisted on putting only my name on the house only. My parents are very old school Asian parents. Although they say the house is ours, my wife's name is not on the title, and they want to have all the say on everything that we do to the house. Never mind the arguments i've had with my parents about all this, my wife and i decided to buy our own house once we save up enough.

my question is, should i bother to submit the ownership title / purchase agreement of the new house into the pile of evidence in our I-751 application? i am afraid that it'll look bad on the application that "I" purchased the house and not "we".

other than that, we have a pretty good pile of evidence of bills, magazine, insurance, tax return, pictures, travel reservations,... etc.

I would say either skip this piece of evidence or if you are planning on including a cover letter, then you can disclose this information there so they won't followup with an RFE. However, we didn't submit lease agreements since they were all under my wife's name and got approve without getting an RFE. I would say focus on the other evidence and forget about this one. Many people are in that situation where one person either owned the house prior to the marriage or the non US spouse did not have good credit/no credit which will cause the mortgage payment as well as the interest rate to increase - so the logical thing to do is not to include the spouse until things get better.

hope this helps.

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thanks for the quick reply man... appreciate it :)

so i've been reading all the FAQ on I-751, are there anything else that we need to do besides the I-751 application and its supporting documentations? i just wanna make sure that we don't miss anything. We did the initial PR change of status through a lawyer, but this time we're doing the renewal ourselves. it's a bit of overwhelming, just a little bit.

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You can include the ownership proof since It will show a strong financial position. I am planning on buying a house and am still on a conditional Residency and I have no intention of putting my wife's name on ownership title. Since I am paying for the house, I don't want anybody else interfering in my decisions. I don't think you need to justify yourself on certain personal matters. If you have plenty of other evidence to support your case, USCIS won't bother. Good Luck.

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I don't think I-751 has anything to do with a strong financial position.

It is all about showing proof that you are still in a bona fide marriage, meaning you didn't just get married for the Green Card and then go your separate ways. The title to your house demonstrates nothing in this regard, so I don't see why you would send it in. You should just send the bills.

But I'm not positive...i'm just now going through this process myself. We live in my parents house, so they are sending in an affidavit saying we live there and they pay our bills, etc.

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Posted

I don't think I-751 has anything to do with a strong financial position.

It is all about showing proof that you are still in a bona fide marriage, meaning you didn't just get married for the Green Card and then go your separate ways. The title to your house demonstrates nothing in this regard, so I don't see why you would send it in. You should just send the bills.

But I'm not positive...i'm just now going through this process myself. We live in my parents house, so they are sending in an affidavit saying we live there and they pay our bills, etc.

True. What I wanted to say was, attaching proof of house ownership or skipping has little to do with your case filing unless its owned jointly. When I got married, and moved to the US, my wife was already living in the house we are living in. We still have no lease since the landlord is known to my wife's family and they never bothered with a lease agreement. I simply had the landlord write me a letter stating that we reside in his house. It was accepted by the IO during my AOS interview. I'll attach the same for my ROC when the time comes. A simple affidavit or letter from your parents is enough. Good Luck.

IR5 For Parent

Posted

I don't know what State your are living in.

If this is your primary residence and you claim homestead you have to include your wife on the title in the state of Florida.

My Mother is from Germany, when she got married to her husband he owned more then one home.There changed homes after marriage

because of size, when he went to the property appraisers office to change his homestead there ask him if he was married, he said yes

and there told him that his wife had to be on the title. It is mandatory in this State, but I don't know about other states, you may want to ask

your property appraisers office.

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Posted

Glad to know this. I am never buying a house in Florida :). Its not mandatory in the State of NY to have both names on Title. Neither is it in Texas. I am not sure about the others.

I am not sure why you would not want your wife on the title with you...everything my husband and I have bought and will buy since our marriage is and will be in both our names.

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You submit all documentation that helps YOU to make YOUR case. This house doesn't, therefore I would not include it in my package unless I could somehow turn it into a proof of cohabitation.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

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