Undocumented Harvard Student Faces Deportation

[HappyKnappy 30]

How many times does it have to be stated that there is no "right" to immigrate to the USA?

Yeah, if you read my post, I said he has the right to file paperwork; just like you, me, or the next one. Getting paperwork approved or granted visas on the other hand is not a right. Too bad because his parents screwed him on that one, the rules end up against him.

This is a perfect example of why great minds are needed in this beautiful country. Lots of hateful little people, with hateful little minds.

Edited June 12, 2010 by HappyKnappy

[sachinky 465]

Using deportation as the penalty in all cases where someone is here without documentation is not justice. Believing that is justice is archaic. In this case, it's saying to this Harvard student who is by all other definitions, a citizen of the U.S., we're going to take your life away from you because you don't have a paper that says you can be here. That's not what the United States was built on.

Are you smoking crack? What definition of citizenship are you referring to here? And by that, I mean legal definition, not some baloney you thought up. He's NOT a USC. Illegal residency doesn't translate to citizenship of any country.

[sachinky 465]

What about the USC kid or kid of LPR parents who got bumped off the scholarship list so that this illegal kid could go to Harvard?

Where's the compassion and empathy for them? Where's the fairness and equality in that?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Yeah, if you read my post, I said he has the right to file paperwork; just like you, me, or the next one. Getting paperwork approved or granted visas on the other hand is not a right. Too bad because his parents screwed him on that one, the rules end up against him.

This is a perfect example of why great minds are needed in this beautiful country. Lots of hateful little people, with hateful little minds.

They could use some great minds in Mexico, too. Maybe if they had some, they wouldn't screw up their country so much that so many there want to leave.

[HappyKnappy 30]

They could use some great minds in Mexico, too. Maybe if they had some, they wouldn't screw up their country so much that so many there want to leave.

Very true. Thank you for pointing out the obvious, unnecessary, but true.

I rest my case.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Over three million students graduate from U.S. high schools every year. Most get the opportunity to test their dreams and live their American story. However, a group of approximately 65,000 youth do not get this opportunity; they are smeared with an inherited title, an illegal immigrant. These youth have lived in the United States for most of their lives and want nothing more than to be recognized for what they are, Americans.

The DREAM Act is a bipartisan legislation ‒ pioneered by Sen. Orin Hatch [R-UT] and Sen. Richard Durbin [D-IL] ‒ that can solve this hemorrhaging injustice in our society. Under the rigorous provisions of the DREAM Act, qualifying undocumented youth would be eligible for a 6 year long conditional path to citizenship that requires completion of a college degree or two years of military service.

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“Approximately 50,000 undocumented students graduate from high schools each year; however, without legal status, it is difficult for them to secure a job or afford to attend college,” Lugar said. “This measure will provide these young people with an incentive to move towards permanent residency while pursuing an education or other worthwhile service.

“Undocumented young people usually arrive with their families and have no understanding of their immigration status. They should be encouraged to complete an education and move toward permanent residency.”

To be eligible, a child must have been under the age of 16 when they entered the country and be physically present in the United States for at least five years immediately preceding the date of this measure becoming law; have earned a high school diploma or GED; be a person of good moral character; and not be inadmissible or deportable under criminal or security grounds of the Immigration and Nationality Act.

http://dreamact.info/

[Pooky 3,795]

Over three million students graduate from U.S. high schools every year. Most get the opportunity to test their dreams and live their American story. However, a group of approximately 65,000 youth do not get this opportunity; they are smeared with an inherited title, an illegal immigrant. These youth have lived in the United States for most of their lives and want nothing more than to be recognized for what they are, Americans.

The DREAM Act is a bipartisan legislation ‒ pioneered by Sen. Orin Hatch [R-UT] and Sen. Richard Durbin [D-IL] ‒ that can solve this hemorrhaging injustice in our society. Under the rigorous provisions of the DREAM Act, qualifying undocumented youth would be eligible for a 6 year long conditional path to citizenship that requires completion of a college degree or two years of military service.

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“Approximately 50,000 undocumented students graduate from high schools each year; however, without legal status, it is difficult for them to secure a job or afford to attend college,” Lugar said. “This measure will provide these young people with an incentive to move towards permanent residency while pursuing an education or other worthwhile service.

“Undocumented young people usually arrive with their families and have no understanding of their immigration status. They should be encouraged to complete an education and move toward permanent residency.”

To be eligible, a child must have been under the age of 16 when they entered the country and be physically present in the United States for at least five years immediately preceding the date of this measure becoming law; have earned a high school diploma or GED; be a person of good moral character; and not be inadmissible or deportable under criminal or security grounds of the Immigration and Nationality Act.

http://dreamact.info/

But it is not law now. And using a possible future law as grounds to circumvent current Federal law is wrong.

[Darnell 8,478]

65,000 youth graduating? Cool ! Assume 1 parent is in the USA, that's 130,000 ppl to detain and deport.

If both parents are in the USA, wow - 195,000 ppl to deport.

Hey ! While we're at it, lets grab the entire family as well, detain, deport.

GTFO. Seriously.

As for the Dream Act - Thankfully it's not law. It won't get passed into law, IMO.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

But it is not law now. And using a possible future law as grounds to circumvent current Federal law is wrong.

Never in this country have we ever measured what is just simply based on what laws were on the books. Laws have been changed or made most often out of necessity to address an injustice.

Edited June 12, 2010 by El Buscador

[Pooky 3,795]

Never in this country have we ever measured what is just simply based on what laws were on the books. Laws have been changed or made most often out of necessity to address an injustice.

And what about the injustice of someone here illegally denying someone who is not a place at Harvard?

Going back to your quote about justice, there is more weighing against him than in his favour. Right now, the Dream Act is merely a proposal and unlikely to make it onto the statute books. This kid and his parent are here illegally. His situation is not an injustice, just his misfortune that his parent chose to enter the country illegally, rather than do things right.

Fairness here is not one-sided.

[Darnell 8,478]

studying molecular and cellular biology at Harvard - fwiw, impossible in the first year curricula. Must get the 'basics' out of the way, first - there are prerequisites he's not fulfilled, yet, for those upper level classes.

Perhaps is better to say that he wants to major in molecular and cellular biology, instead?

[Ban Hammer 13,367]

The DREAM Act is a bipartisan legislation ‒ pioneered by Sen. Orin Hatch [R-UT] and Sen. Richard Durbin [D-IL] ‒ that can solve this hemorrhaging injustice in our society. Under the rigorous provisions of the DREAM Act, qualifying undocumented youth would be eligible for a 6 year long conditional path to citizenship that requires completion of a college degree or two years of military service.

which will do what? oh right, just encourage more illegals to subject their children to the hazards of entering the country illegally.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

And what about the injustice of someone here illegally denying someone who is not a place at Harvard?

Going back to your quote about justice, there is more weighing against him than in his favour. Right now, the Dream Act is merely a proposal and unlikely to make it onto the statute books. This kid and his parent are here illegally. His situation is not an injustice, just his misfortune that his parent chose to enter the country illegally, rather than do things right.

Fairness here is not one-sided.

That's a false argument. He didn't get into Harvard illegally. He applied like anyone else. To blanket everything the student has done since growing up and living here as a resident in America as 'illegal' is just bizarre.

[HappyKnappy 30]

studying molecular and cellular biology at Harvard - fwiw, impossible in the first year curricula. Must get the 'basics' out of the way, first - there are prerequisites he's not fulfilled, yet, for those upper level classes.

Perhaps is better to say that he wants to major in molecular and cellular biology, instead?

And to think the guy has problably double your IQ must be popping your neurons like corn kernels

How dare him be smarter than a LPR or USC... Please, be sure to tell Booyah! that the media does polish things up for the masses, he'll know what you talk about.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Just because he is availing hinself of one of our Universities, does not exempt him from immigration laws. Send him home, make him get s student visa. Prob solved.

On the nail. Even I (who could then attempt entry to US with NO visa--I had Canadian passport then) had to get a student visa to attend Central Mich University (which is a much lesser-grade than Harvard) in 1991; also, I have met others who entered US on a business-visa and then decided to start studies, who had to "adjust" within the country to F-1 (and then go out-of-country to get it stamped properly)--why should Balderas be given special treatment denied to the latter cases?