Undocumented Harvard Student Faces Deportation

[one...two...tree 2,762]

He can only offer this country something if he is here legally and able to work/research/study on some kind of visa. Right now, he has nothing to offer. Nothing. He is here illegally. He needs to get a student visa and come on back legally. I don't see what's so complicated.

edit to add--Right now he is offering nothing and taking an education that he is NOT legally entitled to.

His parent immigrated here illegally. He's not legal liable for his parent's actions. He's done nothing wrong. The fact that he doesn't have documentation that legitimizes his status in this country is a mere formality in this case. Deporting him would be an atrocity to what this country stands for.

[Ban Hammer 13,366]

coulda been a kid that was a usc or a child of a lpr getting that full scholarship at harvard, but nooooooo. let's give it to the illegal kid and then complain when he's caught!

His parent immigrated here illegally. He's not legal liable for his parent's actions. He's done nothing wrong. The fact that he doesn't have documentation that legitimizes his status in this country is a mere formality in this case. Deporting him would be an atrocity to what this country stands for.

yes, he has. you just can't see it.

[Pooky 3,795]

His parent immigrated here illegally. He's not legal liable for his parent's actions. He's done nothing wrong. The fact that he doesn't have documentation that legitimizes his status in this country is a mere formality in this case. Deporting him would be an atrocity to what this country stands for.

The fact that he is an illegal immigrant is the mere formality. The population of the USA should not be liable for the illegal actions of his parents. Deporting him would underline that the USA has laws which all need to heed.

And "atrocity"? Really heavy on the rhetoric there. An atrocity is when 800 people are butchered and dumped in a mass grave. This might be classed as a misfortune, but certainly not an atrocity.

[tmma 467]

His parent immigrated here illegally. He's not legal liable for his parent's actions. He's done nothing wrong. The fact that he doesn't have documentation that legitimizes his status in this country is a mere formality in this case. Deporting him would be an atrocity to what this country stands for.

It's not a 'mere formality'....But it's troubling to see how little weight you put on following the law.

Deporting him and any other illegals would be following the laws of this country that are neither mere formalities nor atrocities in any case. It would be atrociously unfair to bend laws fro one and not another. Justice for all. Justice says he is here illegally. He goes- until his status is legal.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

It's not a 'mere formality'....But it's troubling to see how little weight you put on following the law.

Deporting him and any other illegals would be following the laws of this country that are neither mere formalities nor atrocities in any case. It would be atrociously unfair to bend laws fro one and not another. Justice for all. Justice says he is here illegally. He goes- until his status is legal.

Justice wouldn't be served to deport him for no other reason other than he doesn't have legal documentation.

[Pooky 3,795]

Justice wouldn't be served to deport him for no other reason other than he doesn't have legal documentation.

No, justice would be to include those of his family who are also here illegally.

[tmma 467]

Justice wouldn't be served to deport him for no other reason other than he doesn't have legal documentation.

You can't sugar coat his illegal presence by the phrases ' doesn't have legal documentation' or 'undocumented'. He is here illegally; as are his parents. If he was here legally, he would have documentation.

Honestly, what's so complicated here? Have him get a student visa. .....If he qualifies for one under the laws that apply to everyone which is what this country stands for ...equal under the law....Justice for all and that includes him...even if he is on wrong side.

edited..to add

Edited June 12, 2010 by tmma

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Justice wouldn't be served to deport him for no other reason other than he doesn't have legal documentation.

You are not looking for justice. Justice says when you break a law, you pay the consequences of breaking that law. If you don't like the law, change the law. But when you go to the courts, looking for justice, the courts are bound by the law.

[mawilson 2,133]

Harvard officials immediately threw support behind Balderas.

"Eric Balderas has already demonstrated the discipline and work ethic required for rigorous university work, and has, like so many of our undergraduates, expressed an interest in making a difference in the world," said Christine Heenan, Harvard's vice president of public affairs and communications.

Making a difference starts at home.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Making a difference starts at home.

So does incest.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

No, justice would be to include those of his family who are also here illegally.

Using deportation as the penalty in all cases where someone is here without documentation is not justice. Believing that is justice is archaic. In this case, it's saying to this Harvard student who is by all other definitions, a citizen of the U.S., we're going to take your life away from you because you don't have a paper that says you can be here. That's not what the United States was built on.

[tmma 467]

Using deportation as the penalty in all cases where someone is here without documentation is not justice. Believing that is justice is archaic. In this case, it's saying to this Harvard student who is by all other definitions, a citizen of the U.S., we're going to take your life away from you because you don't have a paper that says you can be here. That's not what the United States was built on.

No he is not a citizen of the United States. What 'other definitions' are you refering to?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Using deportation as the penalty in all cases where someone is here without documentation is not justice. Believing that is justice is archaic. In this case, it's saying to this Harvard student who is by all other definitions, a citizen of the U.S., we're going to take your life away from you because you don't have a paper that says you can be here. That's not what the United States was built on.

Main Entry: jus·tice

Pronunciation: \ˈjəs-təs\

Function: noun

Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French justise, from Latin justitia, from justus

Date: 12th century

1 a : the maintenance or administration of what is just especially by the impartial adjustment of conflicting claims or the assignment of merited rewards or punishments b : judge c : the administration of law; especially : the establishment or determination of rights according to the rules of law or equity

2 a : the quality of being just, impartial, or fair b (1) : the principle or ideal of just dealing or right action (2) : conformity to this principle or ideal : righteousness c : the quality of conforming to law

3 : conformity to truth, fact, or reason : correctness

Nope. I don't see empathy anywhere in that definition.

[mawilson 2,133]

No he is not a citizen of the United States. What 'other definitions' are you refering to?

But he wants to be, awww. That's all the definition Stevo needs.

[peejay 327]

This is why there needs to be some flexibility in immigration law.

The kid has Harvard officials going to bat for him, so chances are he has something to offer this country.

This is mere speculation.

Who is paying for his education? Who got turned down to make room for him? Is he the best of the best or the recipient of affirmative action?

Lots of questions and speculation, but no facts or answers.