Undocumented Harvard Student Faces Deportation

[mawilson 2,133]

That's a false argument. He didn't get into Harvard illegally. He applied like anyone else. To blanket everything the student has done since growing up and living here as a resident in America as 'illegal' is just bizarre.

If you steal my identity and use it to get into Harvard, do you expect to keep your degree when the fraud is discovered?

[HappyKnappy 30]

If you steal my identity and use it to get into Harvard, do you expect to keep your degree when the fraud is discovered?

No, I would expect you to get that degree After all, you worked so hard to get a Harvard degree, and as the rightful owner of that identity you deserve the recognition.

Wow...

Now, we are talking about stealing your identity before HS or after it? I think at least you need to show a high IQ when applying to Harvard, among other things.

Edited June 14, 2010 by HappyKnappy

[mawilson 2,133]

No, I would expect you to get that degree After all, you worked so hard to get a Harvard degree, and as the rightful owner of that identity you deserve the recognition.

Wow...

I'd expect the degree to be annulled as it was tainted by fraud and misrepresentation.

[HappyKnappy 30]

I'd expect the degree to be annulled as it was tainted by fraud and misrepresentation.

That's your opinion. I would want you to have it.

[^_^ 5,021]

Taking classes under a false identity would be a violation of the ethics code of any university in this country. If the violation was discovered prior to graduation, I'd expect to see the student expelled. If it happened after, the degree would likely be annulled.

[mawilson 2,133]

That's your opinion. I would want you to have it.

I already have three, don't need another one. Let the trash can have it.

Taking classes under a false identity would be a violation of the ethics code of any university in this country. If the violation was discovered prior to graduation, I'd expect to see the student expelled. If it happened after, the degree would likely be annulled.

[Heracles 417]

Anyone notice that this guy was granted a Visa.

What a bloody joke to be honest. This country has rules and laws that basically bend depending on the person and their background. Nice and convenient with the but my parents did it not me line.

The guy is on a scholarship as well. heck, why stop there? Why not even kick a yank family out and give him their house? After all, he needs a place to stay too right.

What a bunch of fools the rest of us are for doing it using the legal channels. America, the country where a minority status gives you a golden ticket to pretty-much anything.

Edited June 19, 2010 by Booyah!

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Anyone notice that this guy was granted a Visa.

What a bloody joke to be honest. This country has rules and laws that basically bend depending on the person and their background. Nice and convenient with the but my parents did it not me line.

The guy is on a scholarship as well. heck, why stop there? Why not even kick a yank family out and give him their house? After all, he needs a place to stay too right.

What a bunch of fools the rest of us are for doing it using the legal channels. America, the country where a minority status gives you a golden ticket to pretty-much anything.

I haven't followed the entire thread but he has a visa? As in he was just granted one?

While I think amnesty is a joke, I do think that minors who are brought in by their parents should have some leeway. When someone is an illegal immigrant there are two infractions, a criminal one - crossing the US border and purposely avoiding inspection & a civil one - being in the US illegally. A "young" minor is only responsible for the second one. In these situations the entire family should be deported and an interview for a visa should be set up for the child. If the person does not have a criminal record then they can be granted a visa to reenter.

I also think that USCIS should have some leeway on this as well. If the minor was found to be aware that they were crossing illegally....say they were 15 or 16 at the time, they should then be denied. But if you have a 19 year old who was 2 when his parents crossed then he should get a visa.

[Heracles 417]

Yep Harvard used their connections and got him a VISA, not too sure what type though.

This half baked enforcement of the laws is just an utter waste of time and a joke. Why not just completely open up the borders and let all in? At least that will be an improvement as everyone will get a chance; that is, rather then the current discriminatory system of only those south of the border.

On one hand you have people like myself who have gone through this process formally and legally, crossed my t's and dotted my i's and are now contributing massive amounts of tax to the US government but getting diddly-squat in return. Nothing, Nada, not a damn thing. Then you have the rest who basically get a free pass after free pass.

To add insult to injury, you have clowns like Spook come on here [amongst others] and demand to know why I get so angry about this damn country.

Edited June 19, 2010 by Booyah!

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I guess it's not who you know, but rather, who's got the blow...

[momof1 205]

He wasn't granted a visa. He was granted deferred action. It just means that his removal has been deferred to a later time. He has a court date in July when he'll likely lern how long his removal will be deferred. He still has no legal way to stay in this country. Even if he were to get to married to a USC, he would have to consular process and file a waiver of inadmissibility. That is unless they would allow him to be paroled in at which time he could file an in country waiver instead of leaving. ICE is using its discretionary power to grant him this relief....my feeling is it's because of all of the media attention.

[momof1 205]

I haven't followed the entire thread but he has a visa? As in he was just granted one?

While I think amnesty is a joke, I do think that minors who are brought in by their parents should have some leeway. When someone is an illegal immigrant there are two infractions, a criminal one - crossing the US border and purposely avoiding inspection & a civil one - being in the US illegally. A "young" minor is only responsible for the second one. In these situations the entire family should be deported and an interview for a visa should be set up for the child. If the person does not have a criminal record then they can be granted a visa to reenter.

I also think that USCIS should have some leeway on this as well. If the minor was found to be aware that they were crossing illegally....say they were 15 or 16 at the time, they should then be denied. But if you have a 19 year old who was 2 when his parents crossed then he should get a visa.

The US consulate in Mexico is extremely sympathetic to those who were brought to the US illegally as small children. When filing waivers of inadmissbility, the adjudicators are very lenient because they came through no choice of their own. There must be a basis for issuing them a visa though.