Naturalization wobbles

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

That owl will be back as soon as dusk falls - silent gliding wings.....

[ValerieA 350]

Additionally, what I like about the US is that, generally speaking, people are much more integrated than in the UK, and they are proud of all aspects of their national/ethnic heritage. That is yet to happen in the UK, and it might never do It is a very peculiar feeling when some immigrants take advantage of some of what the UK has to offer - and yet refuse to acknowledge the responsibilities that come with those rights.

I agree about people being more integrated in the US, and I am comparing to Canada, not the UK, since one visit my whole life to the UK does not make me anything resembling an expert. However, I don't find that people here are proud of their ethnicity - it seems to me that they hide it to 'fit in'. I guess I see it as more assimilation in the US, whereas in Canada people celebrate diversity and accept and show interest in different cultures. I find Canada more integrated, and the US more assimilated. Doesn't mean the US model is wrong, necessarily, although I do miss Caribana in Toronto and Folkfest in Saskatoon.

[Captain Oates 910]

I agree about people being more integrated in the US, and I am comparing to Canada, not the UK, since one visit my whole life to the UK does not make me anything resembling an expert. However, I don't find that people here are proud of their ethnicity - it seems to me that they hide it to 'fit in'. I guess I see it as more assimilation in the US, whereas in Canada people celebrate diversity and accept and show interest in different cultures. I find Canada more integrated, and the US more assimilated. Doesn't mean the US model is wrong, necessarily, although I do miss Caribana in Toronto and Folkfest in Saskatoon.

Perhaps it's this insistence that what matters is your willingness to go and kill people including your relatives back in the home country. 'Responsibilities' is interpreted on VJ at least as war first and oh a few other things too. Canada doesn't really have that war agenda.

I see my responsibilities as doing nothing to harm the USA, paying taxes, obeying laws and telling on my neighbors if I think they are terrorists.

It's enough to make you want to be a woman (almost). It enough to make you like being over army age (almost)

Why can't these war hawks see their responsibilities as including not doing drugs or abusing minorities or joining militias against their own government ?

Now that's citizenship

[ValerieA 350]

Perhaps it's this insistence that what matters is your willingness to go and kill people including your relatives back in the home country.

I might have one or two relatives that may need killing. Allegedly. Just sayin'.

[Captain Oates 910]

I might have one or two relatives that may need killing. Allegedly. Just sayin'.

Headline:

Predator drone kills 'fingered relative' in Yonge Street, Toronto. "I was just carrying out my oath" says woman.

VJ members applaud commitment of new citizen to her oath

Victim's neighbor says "She was such a quiet woman - kept herself to herself but everyone liked her - it's such a quiet neighborhood - nobody expected this to happen. I can't believe she ate the last jammy dodger"

[ValerieA 350]

Headline:

Predator drone kills 'fingered relative' in Yonge Street, Toronto. "I was just carrying out my oath" says woman.

VJ members applaud commitment of new citizen to her oath

Victim's neighbor says "She was such a quiet woman - kept herself to herself but everyone liked her - it's such a quiet neighborhood - nobody expected this to happen. I can't believe she ate the last jammy dodger"

Screw that. She stole my Timbits. The b1tch had to die. No court in Canada would convict me.

[Captain Oates 910]

Screw that. She stole my Timbits. The b1tch had to die. No court in Canada would convict me.

Timbits ?????

Is Tim missing his bits ?

Apparently these could not be sold in the US

Something to do with a threat from Conan O'Brien

http://www.britishdelights.com/prod_b11.htm

[ValerieA 350]

Timbits ?????

Is Tim missing his bits ?

Apparently these could not be sold in the US

Something to do with a threat from Conan O'Brien

http://www.britishde...om/prod_b11.htm

He is now.

Ooohhhh, now I want Ginger Nuts. Those look awesome!

Edited June 14, 2010 by ValerieA

[Captain Oates 910]

He is now.

Ooohhhh, now I want Ginger Nuts. Those look awesome!

After the introduction of ginger nuts, UK cocaine usage dropped 90%

They should be dunked in nescafe regular coffee which has some milk in it - end then slowly sucked as they distegrate and wrap themselves around your clack coating it to 2.0345 mm...

They are specifically engineered not to crumble too fast.

Those walmart gals will never make it from the car to the electric scooter if they find these.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

After the introduction of ginger nuts, UK cocaine usage dropped 90%

They should be dunked in nescafe regular coffee which has some milk in it - end then slowly sucked as they distegrate and wrap themselves around your clack coating it to 2.0345 mm...

They are specifically engineered not to crumble too fast.

STOP IT ALAN

That is dirty food porn.

[ValerieA 350]

Is it hot in here, or is it just me? *fanning

[Captain Oates 910]

STOP IT ALAN

That is dirty food porn.

I have told you not to trifle with me !

Oh hey I haven't even got started. Once you have been rubbed down with a battered yorkshire

haddock with vinegar on (unmalted by the way), you will NEVER go back to mother's apple pie crushed into double cream and ooooooooooooooooozed out of a miniature BP blow out valve in authentic colours....

[English Muffin 59]

I'm partial to a Hobnob myself.

[Marilyn. 340]

I have been eligible for citizenship for awhile now..

if and when I become a US citizen it will be only because then I wouldn't have to worry about renewing my greencard and it is so much easier to get a US passport then it is to get a Canadian passport

[Brother Hesekiel 2,235]

Don't know why my point doesn't come over as it should. Must be my poor English for which I hereby apologize.

It's indeed easy to become a naturalized US citizen if one can keep their British or Canadian citizenship. You speak the Oath of Allegiance, sign on the dotted line, and at the same time mentally show your erected middle finger to anyone who dares to look at you.

That's all fine and dandy until we get a President who won't go for this #######. And this President will hold any naturalized citizen accountable to their Oath of Allegiance and asks them to show proof within a certain time frame (i.e., 1 year), that they have indeed -- as sworn -- absolutely and entirely renounced all allegiance and fidelity to any state or sovereignty of whom which they have been a subject or citizen. And yes, that would include the U.K. and Canada as well, folks.

Anybody who won't comply as requested is guilty of perjury in connection with gaining US citizenship and what that means we all know: bye, bye citizenship, Green Card, and USA for good. It's not the same as stripping someone of their citizenship (which is quite difficult); it's determining that the citizenship was obtained by committing perjury, which is why it will be annulled, as if it had never taken place. Pretty much the same as they do to people who misrepresented themselves during the naturalization process. Not only geriatric former Nazi prison guards, but even two female F.B.I. agents have quite recently experienced first hand what's that like.

Maybe you think you can predict what the next 10 Presidents will be like, but I'm not so confident that not even one of them will stop dual citizenship with 1 stroke of a pen. If I were the President of the United States, I would sign such an executive order immediately. And what are the odds that I'm the only one with views like this among over 300,000,000 people of all political colors in the US right now, some of which will become President of the United States some day.

That's the point I was trying to make. If you become a US citizen, make sure that you're okay with the idea that you one day will have to renounce your U.K. or Canadian citizenship, simply because you said so under oath in front of a judge. Somebody who would never, ever, not in a million years cut his loyalty to the Queen, should not become a US citizen. Not because they can't be, but because of what may lie ahead on the road to travel.

No constitution has to be changed or amended. No new law has to be created. All it takes is one executive order and one signature, clarifying that the Oath of Allegiance indeed means what you'd think it would mean all along.

May God save the Queen!

Edited June 14, 2010 by Just Bob