Science will win religion!

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I'm not 100% sure of course, but I believe that some of the issues that some scientists have with religion (and vice-versa) stems from the Creationist's interpretation of the Bible. This group of Protestant Fundamentalists have denied scientific discoveries which do not jive with their very literal interpretation of the Bible. However, this group's view of science is not the position of all Christians. It is only the view of their particular sect of Christianity.

However, and unfortunately for Christianity as a whole, this group of Christian Creationists gets a lot of press, so I suppose it is possible that a lot of scientists who are uneducated in religion as a whole could naturally consider this stance to be the stance of all Christians, which it absolutely is NOT. Hence, we have the sillyness of such statements as 'Science will win religion'...

Blessings and Progress to VJ,

BishopM

A lot of folks don't want to wander outside their comfort zone, yet some of the greatest scientists of the last century found great comfort and consistency with religion, and over the centuries, many religious scholars were able to use the new sciences to further understand Creation. If there is any conflict, it is among those that don't want to leave their warm, snuggly beds, for fear of catching a cold.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I'm not 100% sure of course, but I believe that some of the issues that some scientists have with religion (and vice-versa) stems from the Creationist's interpretation of the Bible. This group of Protestant Fundamentalists have denied scientific discoveries which do not jive with their very literal interpretation of the Bible. However, this group's view of science is not the position of all Christians. It is only the view of their particular sect of Christianity.

However, and unfortunately for Christianity as a whole, this group of Christian Creationists gets a lot of press, so I suppose it is possible that a lot of scientists who are uneducated in religion as a whole could naturally consider this stance to be the stance of all Christians, which it absolutely is NOT. Hence, we have the sillyness of such statements as 'Science will win religion'...

Blessings and Progress to VJ,

BishopM

There is a former priest who is a scientist that has been working hard to bridge the intellectual gap between science and religion. I posted an article awhile back on him, but I can't remember his name.

[BishopM 114]

There is a former priest who is a scientist that has been working hard to bridge the intellectual gap between science and religion. I posted an article awhile back on him, but I can't remember his name.

There are literally volumes of books written which address/close this gap, by both the religious and scientists as well. Yet, as ####### has stated, lots of people who are 'dug in' to a particular train of thought who cannot, or rather are unwilling, to grasp the beauty of both scientific discover and personal belief in God.

In my mind, science and religion complement each other. There is no conflict between the two.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Why do scientists feel the need to prove there is no god? We all have the freedom to believe what we want as long as it doesnt cause harm.

[BishopM 114]

Why do scientists feel the need to prove there is no god? We all have the freedom to believe what we want as long as it doesnt cause harm.

Ego?

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Ego?

Agenda?

[BishopM 114]

Agenda?

Denial?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

You would think, given the vastness and immensity of the Universe, that would be humbling enough. Maybe it's fear, maybe it's ego, maybe it is just denial, that something could be bigger than human beings.

[Peikko 1,575]

Scientists know there are a lot more things bigger than humans. It's not ego, it's not fear (what's to fear, exactly???) it's not denial, it's the inability to factor something that has no known properties into current equations and theories that have been developed through observation and prediction. To the best of my understanding there is also the problem that the current forumulae and theories in sciences leave no room for the mathematical x factor that would be necessary for divine intervention in the physical world.

That does not mean that humans know everything about everything, or that people who wish to believe in something spiritual should not do so if they so desire, but it can't be factored into the science as things stand and for those who believe in the science, it's difficult to make use of a spiritual dimension that has no measurable physical properties that can also somehow have a beneficial effect on humanity.

You would think, given the vastness and immensity of the Universe, that would be humbling enough. Maybe it's fear, maybe it's ego, maybe it is just denial, that something could be bigger than human beings.

Of course, not believing in the spaghetti monster is all down to having a massive id -

Edited June 11, 2010 by Madame Cleo

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Of course, not believing in the spaghetti monster is all down to having a massive id -

Some of the most arrogant, egocentric personalities I've ever known were quite religious.

[Peikko 1,575]

Some of the most arrogant, egocentric personalities I've ever known were quite religious.

I don't think personal ego factors into whether you do or do not believe in a spiritual dimension. I am not sure what the common denominator is to be honest, but I don't believe it is that. In fact, a lot of atheists are also humanists and very humble in a lot of ways. That's not to say that a lot of religious folks aren't humble either, because of course they are.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I don't think personal ego factors into whether you do or do not believe in a spiritual dimension. I am not sure what the common denominator is to be honest, but I don't believe it is that. In fact, a lot of atheists are also humanists and very humble in a lot of ways. That's not to say that a lot of religious folks aren't humble either, because of course they are.

[Ban Hammer 13,337]

Some of the most arrogant, egocentric personalities I've ever known were quite religious.

i've met quite a few that were atheists too.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

i've met quite a few that were atheists too.

I'm sure there are. As for the number of atheists in general though - in all my life, I've only met or known maybe one in every hundred people who were actually self professed atheists. I've met a lot of agnostics though.

Edited June 11, 2010 by El Buscador

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Scientists know there are a lot more things bigger than humans. It's not ego, it's not fear (what's to fear, exactly???) it's not denial, it's the inability to factor something that has no known properties into current equations and theories that have been developed through observation and prediction. To the best of my understanding there is also the problem that the current forumulae and theories in sciences leave no room for the mathematical x factor that would be necessary for divine intervention in the physical world.

That does not mean that humans know everything about everything, or that people who wish to believe in something spiritual should not do so if they so desire, but it can't be factored into the science as things stand and for those who believe in the science, it's difficult to make use of a spiritual dimension that has no measurable physical properties that can also somehow have a beneficial effect on humanity.

Of course, not believing in the spaghetti monster is all down to having a massive id -

The premise that science cannot quantify the Divine would mean you have already made the assumption that God would have to be something quite distinct within all that exists. That would be a self-imposed imitation of whoever has come to that conclusion, not science in general, or any religion in particular. For instance, certain religions do not distinguish between Creator and Creation, while other religions hold that forces of nature, which are quite tangible, are divine themselves. Hippies worship Mother Earth, and trees, and dolphins. Does that not make them Divine by definition? All these things exist within the Universe.