Governor of Bamiyan province in Afghanistan wants to put back together Buddha statues blown up by Taleban

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

So the muslim ruler would have to order it be destroyed again?

Do you think the Taliban had an inalienable right to destroy a 1500 year piece of religious art that forms part of the country's historical heritage.

If so, what specifically is the justification for this?

[iceyspots 0]

So the muslim ruler would have to order it be destroyed again?

Do you think the Taliban had an inalienable right to destroy a 1500 year piece of religious art that forms part of the country's historical heritage.

If so, what specifically is the justification for this?

She'll dodge your question.. There's no use anymore.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

If so, what specifically is the justification for this?

I believe she's already quoted the relevant Quranic verses on this thread.

[Scott & Lai 12]

I realize this is probably where Islam and Christianity diverge but in the Bible God himself spoke when Jesus was baptized: Matthew 3:16 After his baptism, as Jesus came up out of the water, the heavens were opened and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and settling on him. 17And a voice from heaven said, "This is my beloved Son, and I am fully pleased with him."

That would make them separate beings and not one then right?

The Christian belief is that God is one in essence (one "being", if you will), but three persons. the Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is not the Father. But the three are co-equal, and are all the One God.

[Veiled Princess 1]

so what? the wearing of a veil is cultural... just becuase they belive one thing or the other does not negate their cultural identity. everyone here agrees that they wore a shawl or veil then. who really care about that point but you? btw.. isnt Saul (Paul) heresy to your way of life anyway? He preached the Christ... not the Mohammud.

I was asked about covering the hair in christianity.... I answered... I don't really care one way or the other.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If so, what specifically is the justification for this?

I believe she's already quoted the relevant Quranic verses on this thread.

But (I'm too lazy to check) then said it had nothing to do with religion or politics...?

I'm pretty sure she said the terrorists aren't 'muslim', on that basis what right do they have to use a religious justification for their act of national vandalism?

Edited August 9, 2006 by erekose

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

If so, what specifically is the justification for this?

I believe she's already quoted the relevant Quranic verses on this thread.

But (I'm too lazy to check) then said it had nothing to do with religion or politics...?

I'm pretty sure she said the terrorists aren't 'muslim', on that basis what right do they have to use a religious justification for their act of national vandalism?

If you read her responses on this thread, nowhere does she say that their destruction of the Buddha statues was unislamic. In fact, she clearly implies that it is. If they are not Muslim, that must be for some other reason.

[iceyspots 0]

If so, what specifically is the justification for this?

I believe she's already quoted the relevant Quranic verses on this thread.

But (I'm too lazy to check) then said it had nothing to do with religion or politics...?

I'm pretty sure she said the terrorists aren't 'muslim', on that basis what right do they have to use a religious justification for their act of national vandalism?

If so, what specifically is the justification for this?

I believe she's already quoted the relevant Quranic verses on this thread.

But (I'm too lazy to check) then said it had nothing to do with religion or politics...?

I'm pretty sure she said the terrorists aren't 'muslim', on that basis what right do they have to use a religious justification for their act of national vandalism?

If you read her responses on this thread, nowhere does she say that their destruction of the Buddha statues was unislamic. In fact, she clearly implies that it is. If they are not Muslim, that must be for some other reason.

If it wasn't for religious reasons, then it must be political, then?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Ok, let's put the questions directly. VP, answer them if you'd like.

1. Do you believe the Talibans actions in destroying the Buddha statues were consistent with the beliefs of the Islamic faith?

Yes/No. Let's keep it simple.

2. Why, specifically, do you say the Taliban were not Muslim?

[GaryC 7]

Please forgive all the questions here. I am really trying to understand all this with an open mind. It seems to me that the Christian, Islam and Hebrew faiths are all believing in the same God? That Islam regards Jesus as a Divine creation of God. Does Islam regard Muhammed the same way? I know you refer to Him as a Prophet but do you regard Him as a spiritual creation of God also?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If so, what specifically is the justification for this?

I believe she's already quoted the relevant Quranic verses on this thread.

But (I'm too lazy to check) then said it had nothing to do with religion or politics...?

I'm pretty sure she said the terrorists aren't 'muslim', on that basis what right do they have to use a religious justification for their act of national vandalism?

If you read her responses on this thread, nowhere does she say that their destruction of the Buddha statues was unislamic. In fact, she clearly implies that it is. If they are not Muslim, that must be for some other reason.

So essentially she agrees with the destruction of the idols, because its in line with her interpretation of her faith, even though it was carried out by apparent heretics/unbelievers. Wow.

That is very, very, very, wrong. I find the reasoning completely alien, and highly objectionable.

Edited August 9, 2006 by erekose

[Veiled Princess 1]

The shaykh who runs this site is Salafi, like VP. This is not mainstream Islam and is not the type of Islam practiced by the overwhelming majority of Muslims.

If he is, he is not one that I have ever heard of.

The methodology of the Salafiyyh is to return to original Islam based on the Quran and Sunnah as was understood by the salaf/sahaba/companions of the prophet. They understood better what they observed than we do. We're not supposed to change the religion. There have been many sects pop up since the time of the prophet calling people to shirk and allowing the haraam and the salafiyyah's objective is to teach muslims the true Islam.

You are, of course, free to disagree.

[iceyspots 0]

If so, what specifically is the justification for this?

I believe she's already quoted the relevant Quranic verses on this thread.

But (I'm too lazy to check) then said it had nothing to do with religion or politics...?

I'm pretty sure she said the terrorists aren't 'muslim', on that basis what right do they have to use a religious justification for their act of national vandalism?

If you read her responses on this thread, nowhere does she say that their destruction of the Buddha statues was unislamic. In fact, she clearly implies that it is. If they are not Muslim, that must be for some other reason.

So essentially she agrees with the destruction of the idols, because its in line with her interpretation of her faith, even though it was carried out by apparent heretics/unbelievers. Wow.

That is very, very, very, wrong. I find the reasoning completely alien, and highly objectionable.

Doesn't quite make sense to me either.

[Scott & Lai 12]

Please forgive all the questions here. I am really trying to understand all this with an open mind. It seems to me that the Christian, Islam and Hebrew faiths are all believing in the same God? That Islam regards Jesus as a Divine creation of God. Does Islam regard Muhammed the same way? I know you refer to Him as a Prophet but do you regard Him as a spiritual creation of God also?

Judaism and Islam reject the Christian beliefs that God is Triune and that Jesus is the eternal Son of God in the flesh. Which means that, no Christians do not believe in the same God as the Muslims and Jews, though we share a belief in monotheism.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

There have been many sects pop up since the time of the prophet calling people to shirk ...

Many will read that and not know what it means so here goes.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirk_%28idolatry%29

Edited August 9, 2006 by Gupt