Adverts to promote positive view of Muslims

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Well, some muslims interpret the quran in violent ways. The vast majority don't but that violent minority makes the rest look bad.

Words or actions..... one is worse than the other.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Well, some muslims interpret the quran in violent ways. The vast majority don't but that violent minority makes the rest look bad.

Words or actions..... one is worse than the other.

It's a choice to let the minority of Muslims color the majority of Muslims in a non-Muslim's mind. Thank God, not every non-Muslim does; in fact, it's a minority that do, but I haven't let them make the rest of the non-Muslims look bad.

[SuperDuper! 230]

*sniff sniff* me smells veiled muslim/islam hate thread. Can't end well. So....

IN B4 DE LOCK!

[Sofiyya 1,687]

*sniff sniff* me smells veiled muslim/islam hate thread. Can't end well. So....

IN B4 DE LOCK!

No worries, Lucky really loves me. This is the beginning of a fabulous mutual admiration society.

[William33 110]

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Please continue to respond with the respect it deserves.

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[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

*sniff sniff* me smells veiled muslim/islam hate thread. Can't end well. So....

IN B4 DE LOCK!

The story is perfectly legitimate - this ad campaign has been created to counter popular misconceptions about Islam and muslims.

As far as the responses to this thread go - well people have the choice as to how to interpret it... but it is probably no surprise that there is bigotry on display - that was sort of the point. People claim that they aren't anti-muslim - when the truth of their own words shows that they blatantly are.

[William33 110]

As stated before (post 53), Please treat this topic with respect. Visa Journey does not wish to close topics or delete threads.

Regards,

William.

[William33 110]

One TOS violation post deleted and the one quoting it.

William33.

[sandinista! 1,816]

Just say "No thank you." Islam is a religion of peace, as long as we all agree to be Islamic.

Poll reveals 40pc of Muslims want sharia law in UK

By Patrick Hennessy and Melissa Kite

Published: 12:06AM GMT 19 Feb 2006

Four out of 10 British Muslims want sharia law introduced into parts of the country, a survey reveals today.

The ICM opinion poll also indicates that a fifth have sympathy with the "feelings and motives" of the suicide bombers who attacked London last July 7, killing 52 people, although 99 per cent thought the bombers were wrong to carry out the atrocity.

Overall, the findings depict a Muslim community becoming more radical and feeling more alienated from mainstream society, even though 91 per cent still say they feel loyal to Britain.

The results of the poll, conducted for the Sunday Telegraph, came as thousands of Muslims staged a fresh protest in London yesterday against the publication of cartoons of Mohammed. In Libya, at least 10 people died in protests linked to the caricatures.

And in Pakistan, a cleric was reported to have put a $1 million (£575,000) bounty on the head of the Danish cartoonist who drew the original pictures.

Last night, Sadiq Khan, the Labour MP involved with the official task force set up after the July attacks, said the findings were "alarming". He added: "Vast numbers of Muslims feel disengaged and alienated from mainstream British society." Sir Iqbal Sacranie, the secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, said: "This poll confirms the widespread opposition among British Muslims to the so-called war on terror."

The most startling finding is the high level of support for applying sharia law in "predominantly Muslim" areas of Britain.

Islamic law is used in large parts of the Middle East, including Iran and Saudi Arabia, and is enforced by religious police. Special courts can hand down harsh punishments which can include stoning and amputation.

Forty per cent of the British Muslims surveyed said they backed introducing sharia in parts of Britain, while 41 per cent opposed it. Twenty per cent felt sympathy with the July 7 bombers' motives, and 75 per cent did not. One per cent felt the attacks were "right".

Nearly two thirds thought the video images shown last week of British troops beating Iraqi youths were symptomatic of a wider problem in Iraq. Half did not think the soldiers would be "appropriately punished".

Half of the 500 people surveyed said relations between white Britons and Muslims were getting worse. Only just over half thought the conviction of the cleric Abu Hamza for incitement to murder and race hatred was fair.

Mr Khan, the MP for Tooting, said: "We must redouble our efforts to bring Muslims on board with the mainstream community. For all the efforts made since last July, things do not have appear to have got better."

He agreed with Sir Iqbal that the poll showed Muslims still had a "big gripe" about foreign policy, particularly over the war on terror and Iraq.

David Davis, the shadow home secretary, said: "It shows we have a long way to go to win the battle of ideas within some parts of the Muslim community and why it is absolutely vital that we reinforce the voice of moderate Islam wherever possible."

A spokesman for Charles Clarke, the Home Secretary, said: "It is critically important to ensure that Muslims, and all faiths, feel part of modern British society. Today's survey indicates we still have a long way to go… [but] we are committed to working with all faiths to ensure we achieve that end."

http://www.telegraph...-law-in-UK.html

you have an uncanny knack for finding the biggest piles of dung that have been passed off as journalism to post here. "Special courts can hand down harsh punishments which can include stoning and amputation."--you have got to be sh!tting me. there is no credible movement, in the uk or anywhere else, attempting to impose hadd punishments through islamic courts in these places. these 40% of british muslims supporting sharia in the uk are simply asking for the same rights extended to their christian and jewish counterparts-religious courts to arbitrate family laws, divorce proceedings, and inheritances, on a strictly voluntary basis. like beth din has been doing for decades. beth din is no more of a threat to me than any sharia court in the uk or the us arbitrating over muslims' divorce proceedings is to you. spare us the hysterics, this is bs.

[Utha 10]

In Islamic lands, may Christians and followers of other non-Islamic relgions freely and openly practice their faiths? Can they build houses of worship? Can they publicly speak about their beliefs? Can they openly display symbols of their faith? Do they have the same rights as their Islamic neighbors? Are they required to live according to Islamic laws?

You could come to Indonesia and see it for yourself.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Wherever there are observant Muslims, Sharia law is already being practiced.

[justashooter 430]

Wherever there are observant Muslims, Sharia law is already being practiced.

so they're still chopping off hands?

[Krikit 1,164]

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[BishopM 114]

I doubt that if there were lots of press accusing "Radical Christians" of horrendous acts, that you would stand for associating the word "radical" with Christian".

Read carefully from now on. I never said that there the Bible proomtes violence. I've posted violent parts of the Bible in response to ignorant people who seem to believe their book doesn't have any violent parts while they're making claims that the Quran is all about violence. My point, if you can grasp it, has been, every time, to simply remind our Neanderthal contingent that you can pick and chose verses from either book that make them sound violent. You and a few others have a honed talent for it.

This is well said. I have been reading the Bible for years, and I have a Bachelor's degree in Christian religion (Protestant based), Masters Degree in Sacred Scripture (Roman Catholic based) so the Bible has meant alot to me over the past decade or so. Yet...I definitely remember way back many years ago to when I read the Bible from end to end for the first time. I remember finishing the book and putting it down and immediately thinking to myself, "What the HELL was that all about!?!?" It truly scared me.

However, I learned a valuable lesson from the experience of that first complete reading. The lesson is that one must continuously read the Bible (and I suspect the same is true for the Quran) in order to really understand it. One CANNOT cherry pick verses and utilize that to craft a theology of hate/fear...that is all too easy. I don't think that is the intention of either of these books.

But...that is just my experience

Peace and Blessings,

Bishop

[mawilson 2,133]

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Sensitive, eh?