Barney Frank: Israeli Actions Make Me "Ashamed" As a Jew

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Seriously, this stuff really isn't cool.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Barney and a bf ran a male prostitution ring out of his house, and, when busted, he simply claimed not to know, and nothing happened to him. Anything less, done by others, fires up the Left into such a frenzy that they have to quit their posts. Teflon Barney's outting himself as a Jew will now immunize him from any criticism about his anti-Israel remarks, unlike Helen Thomas, who is being run out of town on a rail.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

While interesting, none of that justifies referring to the guy as a "pickle sniffer" or questioning his "jewishness".

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I wasn't addressing either of those comments, just sticking to the topic.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

The Palestinians need the freedom to teach Head Start their way! How can the Israeli bullies stand in the way of this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTGbP55HGi8

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

I always find it fascinating that criticism of Israel is often considered to be indicative of one being "anti-Israel."

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Where is the criticism of the 'peace advocates' when they clearly intended to provoke violence, got violence, and now want to condemn Israel for violence?

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Where is the criticism of the 'peace advocates' when they clearly intended to provoke violence, got violence, and now want to condemn Israel for violence?

I think you'll find plenty of people who identify with the aims of the peace advocates who thoroughly condemn the methods they used.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

I think you'll find plenty of people who identify with the aims of the peace advocates who thoroughly condemn the methods they used.

I think you will find the plenty of people who are duped by Hamas into thinking the problems faced by the Palestinian people are based exclusively on Israeli misconduct. There is a rich history of attempting to work with the Palestinian people, to lead them towards a better life, consistently these efforts are dash upon the rock of terrorist organizations and Arab "allies" who have a stake in using the suffering of the Palestinians to further the ultimate goal which is the destruction of Israel.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I think you will find the plenty of people who are duped by Hamas into thinking the problems faced by the Palestinian people are based exclusively on Israeli misconduct. There is a rich history of attempting to work with the Palestinian people, to lead them towards a better life, consistently these efforts are dash upon the rock of terrorist organizations and Arab "allies" who have a stake in using the suffering of the Palestinians to further the ultimate goal which is the destruction of Israel.

I think if you aren't interested in dialogue and instead choose to focus on creating and exacerbating conflict within the debate - that there are no shortage of people who will oblige you.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

I think if you aren't interested in dialogue and instead choose to focus on creating and exacerbating conflict within the debate - that there are no shortage of people who will oblige you.

You might be correct. I didn't question where Mr. Frank hides his salami, nor question his Jewishness, both of which were clearly designed to create and exacerbate conflict within this debate. I do question how Israeli soldiers defending themselves from attack by "peace activists" is supposed to exist in a vacuum where only Israel does wrong however. It appears wholly reasonable to me to explain the basis of what might otherwise be considered unjustifiable interference by Israel into the legitimate affairs of the people in Gaza, and their supporters such as Mr. Frank and the "peace activists."

[SMOKE 1,426]

You might be correct. I didn't question where Mr. Frank hides his salami, nor question his Jewishness, both of which were clearly designed to create and exacerbate conflict within this debate. I do question how Israeli soldiers defending themselves from attack by "peace activists" is supposed to exist in a vacuum where only Israel does wrong however. It appears wholly reasonable to me to explain the basis of what might otherwise be considered unjustifiable interference by Israel into the legitimate affairs of the people in Gaza, and their supporters such as Mr. Frank and the "peace activists."

+1 sorry i've already reached my quota for today.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

I think you will find the plenty of people who are duped by Hamas into thinking the problems faced by the Palestinian people are based exclusively on Israeli misconduct. There is a rich history of attempting to work with the Palestinian people, to lead them towards a better life, consistently these efforts are dash upon the rock of terrorist organizations and Arab "allies" who have a stake in using the suffering of the Palestinians to further the ultimate goal which is the destruction of Israel.

There may be plenty, but that is still nowhere near being all. It's utterly reductionist to tar all individuals and organisations who support the creation of a Palestinian state with the brush of anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You might be correct. I didn't question where Mr. Frank hides his salami, nor question his Jewishness, both of which were clearly designed to create and exacerbate conflict within this debate. I do question how Israeli soldiers defending themselves from attack by "peace activists" is supposed to exist in a vacuum where only Israel does wrong however. It appears wholly reasonable to me to explain the basis of what might otherwise be considered unjustifiable interference by Israel into the legitimate affairs of the people in Gaza, and their supporters such as Mr. Frank and the "peace activists."

Wrong debate. Same argument.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

There may be plenty, but that is still nowhere near being all. It's utterly reductionist to tar all individuals and organisations who support the creation of a Palestinian state with the brush of anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism.

Excuse me if I misunderstand calls for taking the battle to the USA in this or another of the number of threads on this topic by supporters of Hamas.