Don't try to think get some help from Lawyer...they're stupid!!!

[alva 2]

My husband is US citizen, we paid for Lawyer to help us,

Lawyer suppose to help us send everything to USCIS & NVC

Following are the step what Lawyer did…

1) Filed I-130 since Jan 2010

2) USCIS approved on Mar 2010

3) Case assigned @NVC on Apr 2010

On May 2010, my husband received AOS & IV fee bills, then he paid online, but the Lawyer said just because my husband paid online, now a case pending @NVC…I called to NVC and an operator said they didn’t pending our case at all, just waiting our i-864 AOS package…and NVC will not send any mail or e-mail to remind us…but the Lawyer keep saying we couldn’t send anything to NVC for now…if not…a case will be delay…that is stupid excuse to don’t do anything i never heard in my whole life!!!

I writing this notice here…just letting everyone know…don’t try to find a US Lawyer to help…they just need money!!! VJ is good enough!!!

And now I don’t really know what can I do…kinda sad

[Darnell 8,479]

Your husband can send in the documents himself, no need to wait on lawyer, once the casefile is at NVC. IMO, using a lawyer who wants to wait on postal mail from NVC ACTUALLY slows down the process - usually 3 to 6 months .

If you'd like to tell your husband to 'submit them himself' - just remind him - it doesn't matter if the documents come from him or the lawyer, at NVC stage.

Husband has a DS-230 that you signed ? He can handle the I-864 himself.

Addresses on 'where to send' are in the coversheets, to be printed from the online payment portal website.

I tend to have violent reactions to news similar to yours, suggesting a PARTIAL refund from any attorney, due to attorney's ignorance. When he refuses to pay the partial refund, is great reason to file in small claims court. IMO, you have enough fodder to prove that the lawyer is wrong, and a judge would make the award to your husband. Don't worry about this now, just remember it's something else to be done (if you want), later, after you are in the USA.

Good Luck !

[Mir&Naaz 1]

Your husband can send in the documents himself, no need to wait on lawyer, once the casefile is at NVC. IMO, using a lawyer who wants to wait on postal mail from NVC ACTUALLY slows down the process - usually 3 to 6 months .

If you'd like to tell your husband to 'submit them himself' - just remind him - it doesn't matter if the documents come from him or the lawyer, at NVC stage.

Husband has a DS-230 that you signed ? He can handle the I-864 himself.

Addresses on 'where to send' are in the coversheets, to be printed from the online payment portal website.

I tend to have violent reactions to news similar to yours, suggesting a PARTIAL refund from any attorney, due to attorney's ignorance. When he refuses to pay the partial refund, is great reason to file in small claims court. IMO, you have enough fodder to prove that the lawyer is wrong, and a judge would make the award to your husband. Don't worry about this now, just remember it's something else to be done (if you want), later, after you are in the USA.

Good Luck !

Very Well said Darnell.

Ellie1979 I'm getting a First hand Experience of hiring a Lawyer.

They Just delay the process, I hired one when i started the Process and had given all the Documnets needed for IR1/CR1 process.

Wish i had done some research online before hiring one. VJ is more than enough.

I know if i had not hired a Lawyer, i would have had a SIF already.

[TBoneTX 46,304]

OP, sorry that YOUR lawyer apparently wasn't up to snuff.

This does not automatically mean that ALL lawyers are the same, or that everyone can automatically assume that "doing the visa process yourself" is the wisest course. Everyone's circumstance is different.

[kruz_patz 22]

My advise is to email NVC about withdrawing a lawyer from your case, as any correspondence will be sent to lawyer by NVC.

Now send DS-230 form and supporting docs, I-864 and supporting docs to NVC.

You are good to go. I hope I get an approval just like yours. In a real short period of time.

K

[Sweetcheeksss 91]

I agree with the OP, I am so frustrated and incensed at what I found out our immigration attorney had done with our case....

I posted this in the NVC forum but here it is in a nutshell -

I have a minor son from a previous marriage, he is 15.

Our immigration attorney filed for us an I-129F and I-130. She was aware at the time of filing that I have a son AND that he was coming with me to the US. She included him under me on our I-129F. When she filed for us, she explained to me that *if* they both got approved at the same time, the I-129F would be closed.

I read on VJ a topic in regards to step-children and saw something to effect that EVERY person coming to the US had to have their OWN I-130 application. So I get kinda scared and call the attorney, she assures me everything is fine and that he'll be ok *if* our I-129F gets closed.

Guess what...

I call the NVC - they give me my case number AND MY SON IS CERTAINLY NOT OK!!

The operator tells me we have to file an I-130 and I'm freaking out cause I'm at the NVC stage and my son's application isn't even FILED. So I call her office, explain to her what the NVC said to me, she says "Well we were under the impression he'd be ok" and THEN she becomes rather rude and tells me she's completely booked today so I'll have to call back tomorrow.

Uhhh what??!!

OMFG can you imagine that a freakin lawyer that specializes in IMMIGRATION didn't know that!!????

Of course, we, in good faith, paid the lawyer in full at the beginning of this entire process.

We are ABSOLUTELY not using the lawyer anymore. But how heartbreaking to know that we have to wait for my son's I-130 to catch up, just when we thought we'd fly thru the NVC stage because I have everything ready. Bleh.

[pushbrk 13,207]

My husband is US citizen, we paid for Lawyer to help us,

Lawyer suppose to help us send everything to USCIS & NVC

Following are the step what Lawyer did…

1) Filed I-130 since Jan 2010

2) USCIS approved on Mar 2010

3) Case assigned @NVC on Apr 2010

On May 2010, my husband received AOS & IV fee bills, then he paid online, but the Lawyer said just because my husband paid online, now a case pending @NVC…I called to NVC and an operator said they didn’t pending our case at all, just waiting our i-864 AOS package…and NVC will not send any mail or e-mail to remind us…but the Lawyer keep saying we couldn’t send anything to NVC for now…if not…a case will be delay…that is stupid excuse to don’t do anything i never heard in my whole life!!!

I writing this notice here…just letting everyone know…don’t try to find a US Lawyer to help…they just need money!!! VJ is good enough!!!

And now I don’t really know what can I do…kinda sad

You simply don't understand the term pending. Of course the case is "pending" until it is complete. The case is pending receipt of the I-864 and a number of other documents. Whether you go ahead on your own is up to you but your lawyer is not wrong in stating he case is pending at NVC.

[Nica_In_Love 98]

My husband and I also hired one. He's very nice, at the beginning I was really upset because we got married in October, but ended up filing until February. But anyway, from there on he's been sort of on top of things. Although sometimes I doubt if he knows as much as VJ's! Lol.

[Indy90 21]

OP, sorry that YOUR lawyer apparently wasn't up to snuff.

This does not automatically mean that ALL lawyers are the same, or that everyone can automatically assume that "doing the visa process yourself" is the wisest course. Everyone's circumstance is different.

Couldn't agree more. I imagine that most of the people that complain about lawyers made the mistake of assuming that the cheapest lawyer is the best lawyer. In complicated cases, GOOD lawyers can be a great help. If you don't want to spend many hours here because your time is more valuable, a GOOD lawyer can be a great help. Just not the cheapest one available.

The problem is that with so many law schools nowadays, almost anyone can get a law degree if they are willing to shell out $150,000; passing the bar exam is difficult but doable if you study. When looking for a lawyer, review if they have handled many immigration cases before, if they went to a good school or if not, if they did things like law review, etc.

[alva 2]

You simply don't understand the term pending. Of course the case is "pending" until it is complete. The case is pending receipt of the I-864 and a number of other documents. Whether you go ahead on your own is up to you but your lawyer is not wrong in stating he case is pending at NVC.

the "professional" lawyer told me our case "pending" "because of my husband paid AOS & IV fee "online", therefore he already mess up our case! and have to wait til NVC ask for the I-864" lawyer said this excuse half month ago, i sent her an e-mail told her whats NVC operator told me 2 days ago, then Lawyer ask me to print a cover sheet myself!!! my husband paid for more than 2 thousand dollars she dnt even print a cover sheet for us! wt......she needs a printer!!!

Edited June 3, 2010 by Ellie1979

[Darnell 8,479]

ya, lawyer can say 'pending', but since he doesn't know how that online payment portal works -

the casefile is stalled, on YOUR side (not NVC side). Technically, though - the case is still pending until NVC completes all of it's processing - and it IS stalled on yer side (currently). NVC is waiting on you.

Push likes to hammer on terminology, take it with a grain of salt.

or a liter of ice cold sake

or 3 dozen venison jiaozi

yer choice.

Edited June 3, 2010 by Darnell

[IndigoSkies 168]

I almost hired a lawyer. But I didn't. Wasted of money, IMO. This stuff is pretty straight foward if you're case isn't complicated.

[pushbrk 13,207]

ya, lawyer can say 'pending', but since he doesn't know how that online payment portal works -

the casefile is stalled, on YOUR side (not NVC side). Technically, though - the case is still pending until NVC completes all of it's processing - and it IS stalled on yer side (currently). NVC is waiting on you.

Push likes to hammer on terminology, take it with a grain of salt.

or a liter of ice cold sake

or 3 dozen venison jiaozi

yer choice.

Frankly, as you state quite clearly, the case is pending regardless of whether the lawyer understands how the online payment portal works. If the petitioner is mailing the affidavit, it's far more convenient for the petitioner if they print their own cover sheet instead of waiting for one in the mail. The lawyer may or may not be worth their salt but using the correct terminology to describe the status of a case and making things more convenient for their client are not indicators of anything negative at all.

"Pending" simply means nothing is moving forward until something is received by whomever has and can send what is needed. When somebody says, "We are waiting for your XYZ..." it means that all further action is "pending" until they receive it. Don't crucify one person for another's lack of language skill.

[kayo_michael 0]

Your husband can send in the documents himself, no need to wait on lawyer, once the casefile is at NVC. IMO, using a lawyer who wants to wait on postal mail from NVC ACTUALLY slows down the process - usually 3 to 6 months .

If you'd like to tell your husband to 'submit them himself' - just remind him - it doesn't matter if the documents come from him or the lawyer, at NVC stage.

Husband has a DS-230 that you signed ? He can handle the I-864 himself.

Addresses on 'where to send' are in the coversheets, to be printed from the online payment portal website.

I tend to have violent reactions to news similar to yours, suggesting a PARTIAL refund from any attorney, due to attorney's ignorance. When he refuses to pay the partial refund, is great reason to file in small claims court. IMO, you have enough fodder to prove that the lawyer is wrong, and a judge would make the award to your husband. Don't worry about this now, just remember it's something else to be done (if you want), later, after you are in the USA.

Good Luck !

Sorry to hijack this thread with a lengthy post, but I'm new to this and I just want some clarification. (and also say not ALL lawyers are stupid)

From what i'm grasping from this toppic, the OP is frustrated because her lawyer is waiting for a written notice from the NVC before taking action to submit the supporting docs?

Which means, the supporting docs can be sent before the notice is in hand?

If so, I see how this could expedite the process, but by much as 3-6 months? how?

When exactly after my NOA2 can I submit the required documentation to the NVC?

I am working with a lawyer. I am just making sure I'm educated on the process so I don't just follow the lawyers advice blindly. This is how I was able to make an educated decision and switch lawyers. My first lawyer wasn't only expensive, unavailable, and would not listen to what I had to say because I wasn't the "expert", but strongly suggested we do a K-3 because "it's faster".

My current lawyer is VERY pleasant to work with. Her legal assistants are always answering my calls and questions, appointments are conveniently available after work, has 100's of immigration AND deportation cases under her sleeve, and she knows exactly what I want. When I presented my case to her she said "Criminal history? no. Bad Financial? no. Legitimate marriage? yes. This is a PIECE OF CAKE!" I gave her all the required information, all i had to do was signed the dotted lines, and I don't have to worry about RFE's. The piece of mind she gives me is worth the money.

I still visit VJ and other sites because I want to educate myself on the whole CR-1/I-130 process. Where can I go exactly to read up on the 'tips and tricks?' (exact timing and timeline of these events and procedures)? OP, how did you know you can submit forms before the notice arrives?

Thanks.

[Darnell 8,479]

Sorry to hijack this thread with a lengthy post, but I'm new to this and I just want some clarification. (and also say not ALL lawyers are stupid)

From what i'm grasping from this toppic, the OP is frustrated because her lawyer is waiting for a written notice from the NVC before taking action to submit the supporting docs? correct

Which means, the supporting docs can be sent before the notice is in hand? correct

If so, I see how this could expedite the process, but by much as 3-6 months? how? coversheets in online portal - print off, mail with submittal - boom - yer done, as opposed to waiting on NVC to spew out a postal mailer. postal mailer takes 3 months per thing - 3 months for DS-3032, 3 months for I-864, 3 months for DS-230. There's a REASON NVC gives 12 months of time for processing at NVC - it's for POSTAL STUFF . Anyone 'who knows how' can get in/out of NVC within 30 days, if no problems with missing stuff

When exactly after my NOA2 can I submit the required documentation to the NVC? have a read? http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/221785-ds-3032-slowdown/page__view__findpost__p__3560467 and wait 2 weeks from NOA-2 date, for that 'first phone call

I am working with a lawyer. is he trainable? I am just making sure I'm educated on the process so I don't just follow the lawyers advice blindly. This is how I was able to make an educated decision and switch lawyers. My first lawyer wasn't only expensive, unavailable, and would not listen to what I had to say because I wasn't the "expert", but strongly suggested we do a K-3 because "it's faster".

I still visit VJ and other sites because I want to educate myself on the whole CR-1/I-130 process. Where can I go exactly to read up on the 'tips and tricks?' (exact timing and timeline of these events and procedures)? OP, how did you know you can submit forms before the notice arrives?

Thanks.

NVC Stuff -

DS-230 - http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_3190.html

I-864 - http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_3730.html

General NVC stuff - http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_1335.html

and the Grand-Daddy of all short Cuts - LingChe's Shortcuts - at http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/LingChe_NVC_ShortCut

[that'll be 300 venison jiaozi, please, in lieu of cash payment ]

Edited June 3, 2010 by Darnell