Save Israel

[IndigoSkies 168]

There is one small problem with your wild eyed rant, Palistine never exsisted as a country. The Arabs had the chance several times but it wasn't important to them. Your irrational rants do not hold water.

The viability of acountry doesn't rest with how long ago it existed. 65 years ago, Israel didn't exist. 250 years ago America didn't exist. 2500 years ago Greece didn't exist. So how come all these countries get to exist but not Palestine? I hate you make this canned response but it's fitting here: Your eyes have been blinded by zionist charm.

Discount my questions as irrational rant or whatever else. But deep down I know you are yarning for freedom and justice for Palestine. You are just not at liberty to let that out. You're undoubtably being forced by your society to maintain your support for terrorism. You fail to see Israel kills more Palestinians each year directly than Palestinians have over the last 20 years. How can you support such things? How? Only because you're being "convinced" to do so. But how long will you keep lying to yourself?

Edited June 3, 2010 by IndigoSkies

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Because England didn't let them.

Why doesn't Isreal give up the land it stole since 1967 and allow Palestine to be created? Why doesn't Israel stop killing and why don't its support stop supporting terorrism? Why doesn't Israel sign NPT and give up its nukes. Why doesn't Isreal respect international border? Why doesn't Isreal stop assasinating people? Why doesn't Israel let olive farmers pick their olives? Why doesn't Israel let poor, pregnant women go to hospital? Why doesn't Israel give full rights to its non-Jewish population? Why doesn't Isreal stop insisting on milking the Holocaust? Why doesn't respect UN resolutions? Why doesn't Isreal stop killing activists? Why doesn't Isreal let Gazaan have cements to build homes it destoryed? Why doesn't Israel let Gazaan have fishing rods to fish? Why Isreal fear a free Palestine? Why does Isreal feel so entitled?

Are you going to answer these questions according to the propaganda manual that you get from Israel on your montlhy Zionist newspaper? If so, save it. The answer is simply that Isreal has zero regard for anyone else except itself. It consider itself entitled to all of these. Only its might is holding it up. But as histories have shown even mighty British empire was kicked around by naked Indians wearing diapers.

These are in order to what I have highlighted in your text.

1. Regarding the UN, Israel supported the original UN plan, the Palestinians did not because they did not want Israel to exist. Israel tends to feel that the UN has turned its back on them.

2. Cement is used in bunkers

3. Because Hamas wants Israel wiped off of the map. Fatah? Yes, I think there is a chance of peace there.

I don't understand why some things don't go through the blockade...like coffee etc. I do think Israel should have suspended settlement building and should come to the table with Fatah.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

The viability of acountry doesn't rest with how long ago it existed. 65 years ago, Israel didn't exist. 250 years ago America didn't exist. 2500 years ago Greece didn't exist. So how come all these countries get to exist but not Palestine? I hate you make this canned response but it's fitting here: Your eyes have been blinded by zionist charm.

Discount my questions as irrational rant or whatever else. But deep down I know you are yarning for freedom and justice for Palestine. You are just not at liberty to let that out. You're undoubtably being forced by your society to maintain your support for terrorism. You fail to see Israel kills more Palestinians each year directly than Palestinians have over the last 20 years. How can you support such things? How? Only because you're being "convinced" to do so. But how long will you keep lying to yourself?

When you start telling people how they should think and that they are "lying to themselves" its hard not to take what you say as an irrational rant.

[mawilson 2,133]

Why doesn't Isreal give up the land it stole since 1967 and allow Palestine to be created?

There never was a Palestinian state. Israel took Gaza from Egypt and the West Bank

from Jordan during the 1967 war. (By the way, Jordan had "occupied" the West Bank since

1950 and no-one seemed to care.)

Why doesn't Israel stop killing and why don't its support stop supporting terorrism?

I don't understand this sentence.

Why doesn't Israel sign NPT and give up its nukes.

Why should it? Why doesn't Pakistan (or Britain, or the United States) give up the nukes? What a silly question.

Why doesn't Isreal respect international border?

Which one? Pre-1967 border (aka the "green line")? 1949 Armistice Line?

Why doesn't Isreal stop assasinating people?

Because they are terrorists. Other countries, including the United States, assassinate known

terrorists who pose a threat to their national security.

[mawilson 2,133]

Why doesn't Israel let olive farmers pick their olives? Why doesn't Israel let poor, pregnant women go to hospital?

Huh?

Why doesn't Israel give full rights to its non-Jewish population?

They have Israeli passports, they can vote, they have representation in the Knesset. What rights are they missing?

Why doesn't Isreal stop insisting on milking the Holocaust?

Because 6 million Jews were slaughtered?

Why doesn't respect UN resolutions?

Because the UN is a joke, with Libya being on the Human Rights Council.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Why didn't Arab nations create Palestine when they had the chance?

Arabs didn't create the nations. The British did when they left.

Edited June 3, 2010 by ##########

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Arabs didn't create the nations. The British did when they left.

That wasn't really my question but okay, yes when Britain left the UN drafted the plan for an Israeli nation and a Palestinian Nation. Jewish people approved it, Arabs did not.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

That wasn't really my question but okay, yes when Britain left the UN drafted the plan for an Israeli nation and a Palestinian Nation. Jewish people approved it, Arabs did not.

And so, it went nowhere.

[chri'stina 190]

I know this topic is very controversial and I am not sure what every answer is. But I find it over the top when people rant and rave about Israel being a terrorist government. I have read the same biased opinion of it from so many people who are either from a certain region of the world or of a certain religion. I know there are others in that region who would actually like peace with their neighboring Israelis but mostly I read so much hate and anger from both sides. It's no wonder why they are so defensive of them self as a nation when other nations, not very far from them, are always wanting them out of there completely. How sweet. I do not support every single thing Israel does, but I definitely support their right to have a presence in what are also their lands. I am not against a Palestinian state to be formed somehow, but do I really see that happening in a peaceful way?? Not anytime soon. That's my opinion. I am also biased, in favor of Israel.

Edited June 3, 2010 by chri'stina

[ScottThuy 140]

I'm not going to point a finger at any individuals, but it is truly sad to see someone post about this topic when they dont know the long term history involved..only the last 100 years...

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Who here is aware of the terrorist acts done in the name of creating a Jewish state, the colonialism involved in forming the modern Middle East, or how or why Israel was created in the first place? It's not pretty, except in revisionist history. There are no real heroes there.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Who here is aware of the terrorist acts done in the name of creating a Jewish state, the colonialism involved in forming the modern Middle East, or how or why Israel was created in the first place? It's not pretty, except in revisionist history. There are no real heroes there.

If your going to post something like this can you at least elaborate?

[ScottThuy 140]

Good palestine timeline Canaan/Palestine/Israel: A Brief Early History in Maps

Jerusalem Timeline

Israel Timeline

These links provide a good outline and limited descriptions of what has happened over time and where...

If it were not for Hitlers actions, There would likely not be an Israel today... His attrocities caused the UN to propose that they have thier own land... Who was actually there first?

Edited June 4, 2010 by ScottThuy

[Yoink 7]

Israel annexed the land from 1967 while defending itself from arab agression

Israel kills in response to terrorist killings

Israel won't sign a NPT because it is the only country on earth that other countries and groups have sworn to eraticate (nukes are for defense)

International border with whom? Egypt,Jordan, and Lebanon have recognized borders. You mean Syria which takes its direction from Iran and directs Hezzbolah and arms Hamas?

Israel will stop assasinating people when the type of people they assasinate stop directing the killing of innocent Israelis

Pregnant women... the absurdity of this comment speaks to your stupidity

Last I checked, non-jews have full citizenship in Israel, including the right to vote. CHeck the Israeli knesset, there are many muslim reperesentatives

The holocaust can never be milked enough...

UN resolutions... have you even looked at the condemnations issued by them.. it would seem like Israel is one of 5 countries in the world the amount they are cited... bias?

By activist you mean terrorist?

Isreal fear a free Palestine... Thats why the troops pulled out and let them vote for their own leadership and Palestinean authority... Look who they put in office.

Did you just compare your Palestineans to naked indians.

My Zionist newsletter speaks from logic not hate, from fact not heresey.

[luckytxn 2,264]

Why do the Arabs fear the Israelis so much? They are a large area and surround them pretty much. The bible shows they have been on that land and history shows they have more title to it then the Koran and Arab religion says they do. If the Arabs are so dead set against the Jews (And it is Jews they hate so much and not Israel per se) then go and take them out. Oh wait they have tried numerous times and they keep failing. LOL. The Palestinians voted into office a group that has as their mandate to destroy Israel. They kept sending rockets and bombs to kill innocent Jews. The Jews fight back and get condemned. Some group throws rockets and bombs and kills my fellow citizens and they are toast. Bravo Israel for sticking up for yourselves and keep smacking the aggressors down like they deserve.