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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Pakistan
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Hello everyone. I recently got married and have been trying to fill out the K3 (thanks to all the information on this website!) to bring my wife over asap. I have 2 questions that I'm not comfortable with yet.

  • #21. Give last address at which you lived together. - What if we haven't actually lived together? I had to come back immediately after the marriage.
  • #22. It seems like this question is only if your relative is in the U.S. (Complete the information below if your relative is in the United States and will apply for adjustment of status). But then there is another part within the same question (If your relative is not eligible for adjustment of status, he or she will apply for a visa abroad at the American consular post in __). Am I supposed to answer that second part?

And lastly, do you know of any other sites with information similar to this one?

Thank you so much.

K3 VISA PROCESS

08/10 - I130 - Mailed to VSC

08/14 - I130 - Received by VSC

08/19 - I130 - Received NOA1 (I-797C)

08/22 - I129F - Mailed to Chicago

08/23 - I130 - Touched

08/24 - I130 - Touched

08/25 - I129F - Received by Chicago

08/29 - I130 - Touched

09/02 - I129F - Received NOA1 (I-797C)

09/05 - I129F - Touched

09/11 - I129F - Touched

09/12 - I129F - Touched

10/23 - I129F - Transferred to VSC

11/01 - I129F - Received by VSC

11/02 - I129F - Touched

11/03 - I129F - Touched

11/04 - I129F - Touched

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If you have not lived together put N/A

Put the US consulate in her country where she will have her visa interview.

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If you have not lived together put N/A

Put the US consulate in her country where she will have her visa interview.

First part is N/A (Since yoru relative is not AOS in USA) and second part you write down the US Embassy/Consulate where your spouse will go for the interview.

I-130 Timeline with USCIS:

It took 92 days for I-130 to get approved from the filing date

NVC Process of I-130:

It took 78 days to complete the NVC process

Interview Process at The U.S. Embassy

Interview took 223 days from the I-130 filing date. Immigrant Visa was issued right after the interview

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guest123,

The question is applicable, so break the 'N/A habit'. A more appropriate answer would be something like 'we have not yet lived together'. (My sense is that many (most?) K3 and CR1 couples are in that situation.)

Yodrak

If you have not lived together put N/A

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Hello everyone. I recently got married and have been trying to fill out the K3 (thanks to all the information on this website!) to bring my wife over asap. I have 2 questions that I'm not comfortable with yet.
  • #21. Give last address at which you lived together. - What if we haven't actually lived together? I had to come back immediately after the marriage.
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guest123,

The question is applicable, so break the 'N/A habit'. A more appropriate answer would be something like 'we have not yet lived together'. (My sense is that many (most?) K3 and CR1 couples are in that situation.)

Yodrak

If you have not lived together put N/A

.....

Hello everyone. I recently got married and have been trying to fill out the K3 (thanks to all the information on this website!) to bring my wife over asap. I have 2 questions that I'm not comfortable with yet.
  • #21. Give last address at which you lived together. - What if we haven't actually lived together? I had to come back immediately after the marriage.
  • ....

You are right, but answering "N/A" would not hurt either. I did not see you replies from you yesterday. Were you out of town or just did not come to VJ?

I-130 Timeline with USCIS:

It took 92 days for I-130 to get approved from the filing date

NVC Process of I-130:

It took 78 days to complete the NVC process

Interview Process at The U.S. Embassy

Interview took 223 days from the I-130 filing date. Immigrant Visa was issued right after the interview

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I agree. Putting N/A always leaves it open for an adjudicator to ask themself 'why is it not applicable' and issuing an RFE. N/A should be used sparingly if at all.

guest123,

The question is applicable, so break the 'N/A habit'. A more appropriate answer would be something like 'we have not yet lived together'. (My sense is that many (most?) K3 and CR1 couples are in that situation.)

Yodrak

If you have not lived together put N/A

.....

Hello everyone. I recently got married and have been trying to fill out the K3 (thanks to all the information on this website!) to bring my wife over asap. I have 2 questions that I'm not comfortable with yet.
  • #21. Give last address at which you lived together. - What if we haven't actually lived together? I had to come back immediately after the marriage.
  • ....

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simple_male,

Maybe not, in this instance. If there's a question about it the question will probably be addressed at the visa interview. In some other situations, however, using 'N/A' is more likely to be an issue so it's prudent to avoid the often mis-used acronym.

There is always a more approriate, more meaningful, answer than 'N/A' - so why not give it? People here on VJ are always saying, 'I want to minimize the risk of a problem or delay' .....

Yodrak

guest123,

The question is applicable, so break the 'N/A habit'. A more appropriate answer would be something like 'we have not yet lived together'. (My sense is that many (most?) K3 and CR1 couples are in that situation.)

Yodrak

If you have not lived together put N/A

.....

Hello everyone. I recently got married and have been trying to fill out the K3 (thanks to all the information on this website!) to bring my wife over asap. I have 2 questions that I'm not comfortable with yet.

  • #21. Give last address at which you lived together. - What if we haven't actually lived together? I had to come back immediately after the marriage.
  • ....

You are right, but answering "N/A" would not hurt either. ...

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Hi,

If the couple NEVER lived together then the question is NOT applicable and the question should be answered N/A. Thats what we used in our petitions and didnt have any problems...actually our I-130 was approved very quickly.

Jazzy

4-26-06 Married Cebu, Philippines

I-130 (wife & step daughter)

5-05-06 sent

5-08-06 received

5-20-06 Noa#1 (notice date)

5-25-06 Noa#1 (mail recieved)

5-31-06 (touched)

7-12-06 (touched) received email....cases transfered to CSC

7-13-06 (touched)

7-17-06 received NOA in mail (transfer notice)

7-19-06 CSC received petitions

7-20-06 (touched)

7-21-06 (touched)

7-22-06 (touched)

8-03-06 APPROVED (via email)

8-04-06 (touched)

8-06-06 (touched)

8-08-06 received NOA#2 in mail(sent to NVC)

NVC

8-17-06 NVC received and assigned case #s

8-28-06 ds-3032 and aos bill generated (sent out same day)

9-06-06 ds-3032 accepted (email) - resent for cr-2

9-18-06 IV bills received and express mailed

9-20-06 received AOS in mail

9-21-06 AOS sent

9-23-06 (touched)...weird

9-25-06 ds-230 generated

9-30-06 ds-230 received in mail

10-3-06 ds-230 mailed to nvc

10-17-06 CASE COMPLETE!!!

12-26-06 Case sent to manila

12-30-06 Rececieved Packet 4

2-01-07 St. Lukes complete

2-8-07 INTERVIEW!!!!!! AR-need to submit photos of step daughter

2-10-07 Mailed photos to embassy

2-13-07 Photos arrive at embassy

2-21-07 Photos made it out of mail room to case worker!!

3-07-07 Delbros text...VISAS released from embassy

3-09-07 VISAS IN HAND!!!!!!!!

3-29-07 Arrived in Newark (POE)

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Hi,

If the couple NEVER lived together then the question is NOT applicable and the question should be answered N/A. Thats what we used in our petitions and didnt have any problems...actually our I-130 was approved very quickly.

Jazzy

I think, either way is fine. USCIS is not very picky, they just don't like to see any blank. If you read the USCIS instructions, you will notice that they encourage people to answer "N/A," as they say, if something does not apply to you, answer "N/A." But, I agree that writing "never lived together" for this question makes more sense and leaves no doubt. I like the DS 230 part I for the question where it asks, if the applicant has ever been to USA, if so, write down the dates and so on and it also say, if "Never," write NEVER.

I-130 Timeline with USCIS:

It took 92 days for I-130 to get approved from the filing date

NVC Process of I-130:

It took 78 days to complete the NVC process

Interview Process at The U.S. Embassy

Interview took 223 days from the I-130 filing date. Immigrant Visa was issued right after the interview

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Jazzy,

Stating explicitly that the couple has not lived together is more meaningful, so why not use that? Why is it so difficult to give a clear answer rather than an ambiguous one?

As I wrote in my previous post in this thread, I agree that it may not make any difference in this instance but there are numerous instances in which it can and sometimes does make a difference. It's such an easy risk to avoid.

Yodrak

Hi,

If the couple NEVER lived together then the question is NOT applicable and the question should be answered N/A. Thats what we used in our petitions and didnt have any problems...actually our I-130 was approved very quickly.

Jazzy

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Hi,

If the couple NEVER lived together then the question is NOT applicable and the question should be answered N/A. Thats what we used in our petitions and didnt have any problems...actually our I-130 was approved very quickly.

Jazzy

I think, either way is fine. USCIS is not very picky, they just don't like to see any blank. If you read the USCIS instructions, you will notice that they encourage people to answer "N/A," as they say, if something does not apply to you, answer "N/A." But, I agree that writing "never lived together" for this question makes more sense and leaves no doubt. I like the DS 230 part I for the question where it asks, if the applicant has ever been to USA, if so, write down the dates and so on and it also say, if "Never," write NEVER.

Simple male,

Though the response "never lived together" may be ok I would tend to lean toward N/A, after all thats what the instuctions tell you answer if a question doesn't apply. and i've never heard of anyone getting an RFE from responding N/A to this question.

Jazzy

4-26-06 Married Cebu, Philippines

I-130 (wife & step daughter)

5-05-06 sent

5-08-06 received

5-20-06 Noa#1 (notice date)

5-25-06 Noa#1 (mail recieved)

5-31-06 (touched)

7-12-06 (touched) received email....cases transfered to CSC

7-13-06 (touched)

7-17-06 received NOA in mail (transfer notice)

7-19-06 CSC received petitions

7-20-06 (touched)

7-21-06 (touched)

7-22-06 (touched)

8-03-06 APPROVED (via email)

8-04-06 (touched)

8-06-06 (touched)

8-08-06 received NOA#2 in mail(sent to NVC)

NVC

8-17-06 NVC received and assigned case #s

8-28-06 ds-3032 and aos bill generated (sent out same day)

9-06-06 ds-3032 accepted (email) - resent for cr-2

9-18-06 IV bills received and express mailed

9-20-06 received AOS in mail

9-21-06 AOS sent

9-23-06 (touched)...weird

9-25-06 ds-230 generated

9-30-06 ds-230 received in mail

10-3-06 ds-230 mailed to nvc

10-17-06 CASE COMPLETE!!!

12-26-06 Case sent to manila

12-30-06 Rececieved Packet 4

2-01-07 St. Lukes complete

2-8-07 INTERVIEW!!!!!! AR-need to submit photos of step daughter

2-10-07 Mailed photos to embassy

2-13-07 Photos arrive at embassy

2-21-07 Photos made it out of mail room to case worker!!

3-07-07 Delbros text...VISAS released from embassy

3-09-07 VISAS IN HAND!!!!!!!!

3-29-07 Arrived in Newark (POE)

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Hi,

If the couple NEVER lived together then the question is NOT applicable and the question should be answered N/A. Thats what we used in our petitions and didnt have any problems...actually our I-130 was approved very quickly.

Jazzy

I think, either way is fine. USCIS is not very picky, they just don't like to see any blank. If you read the USCIS instructions, you will notice that they encourage people to answer "N/A," as they say, if something does not apply to you, answer "N/A." But, I agree that writing "never lived together" for this question makes more sense and leaves no doubt. I like the DS 230 part I for the question where it asks, if the applicant has ever been to USA, if so, write down the dates and so on and it also say, if "Never," write NEVER.

Simple male,

Though the response "never lived together" may be ok I would tend to lean toward N/A, after all thats what the instuctions tell you answer if a question doesn't apply. and i've never heard of anyone getting an RFE from responding N/A to this question.

Jazzy

I think that there are different ways to answer a same question: a romantic one, a cold one, a bureaucratic one...I understand then when all depends of the mood of the adjudicator! :blush:

CR-1, VT- Canada

I-130:

25 Aug 06 - Sent I-130 (a Friday)

28 Aug 06 - NOA1 & Certif. receipt returned ( a Monday) Day 1

29 Aug 06 - USCIS cashes check

30 Aug 06 - check cleared & 1ST TOUCH.

01 Sept 06 - NOA1 recvd by Mail

09 Sept 06 - 2ND TOUCH (a Saturday)

09 Mai 07 - NOA2 (2 e-mails)

Note: were told the long delay due to huge backlog and internal changes in VT

NVC :

04-June-07 - NVC generates DS-3032 & AOS bill

12-June-07 - AOS Bill payment sent/ alien receives DS-3032 form (by mail, dated 4th June)

13-June-07 - Alien sends back completed DS-3032 (by mail)/ rcvd 19th of June approx.

To mid July-07 - I-864 form sent completed and IV fee bill

19-July-07 NVC rcv I-864 form; mail signature rcvd.

22-Aug-07 Ds-230 with documents sent to NVC.

20-Sep - 07 Alien sends NVC Missing document. NVC receives it the 25th.

05-Oct - 07 NVC completed.

16-Jan - 08 Interview, 3 questions asked, visa approved same day, received 1week later approx.

Note: delay due to internal delay, missing document (not rfe) and self procrastination of understanding some abstract terms. C Post not at all reliable (delivery duration, delivery with signature (did not deliver personnaly), and delivery of interview letter rcvd after the interview).

In USA:

01-03-08 POE Entry in USA

...-03-08 2 Welcome in America letters and green card received.

"What I know is that I know nothing"

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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Pakistan
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Thank you all SO much. All of you are so friendly and helpful and have really helped to calm my nerves in this very stressful process!

Thank you!!!

K3 VISA PROCESS

08/10 - I130 - Mailed to VSC

08/14 - I130 - Received by VSC

08/19 - I130 - Received NOA1 (I-797C)

08/22 - I129F - Mailed to Chicago

08/23 - I130 - Touched

08/24 - I130 - Touched

08/25 - I129F - Received by Chicago

08/29 - I130 - Touched

09/02 - I129F - Received NOA1 (I-797C)

09/05 - I129F - Touched

09/11 - I129F - Touched

09/12 - I129F - Touched

10/23 - I129F - Transferred to VSC

11/01 - I129F - Received by VSC

11/02 - I129F - Touched

11/03 - I129F - Touched

11/04 - I129F - Touched

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Hi,

If the couple NEVER lived together then the question is NOT applicable and the question should be answered N/A. Thats what we used in our petitions and didnt have any problems...actually our I-130 was approved very quickly.

Jazzy

I think, either way is fine. USCIS is not very picky, they just don't like to see any blank. If you read the USCIS instructions, you will notice that they encourage people to answer "N/A," as they say, if something does not apply to you, answer "N/A." But, I agree that writing "never lived together" for this question makes more sense and leaves no doubt. I like the DS 230 part I for the question where it asks, if the applicant has ever been to USA, if so, write down the dates and so on and it also say, if "Never," write NEVER.

Simple male,

Though the response "never lived together" may be ok I would tend to lean toward N/A, after all thats what the instuctions tell you answer if a question doesn't apply. and i've never heard of anyone getting an RFE from responding N/A to this question.

Jazzy

I think that there are different ways to answer a same question: a romantic one, a cold one, a bureaucratic one...I understand then when all depends of the mood of the adjudicator! :blush:

You might include, "and how much I'm willing to risk the delay of an RFE if I don't explain to the best of my ability". They don't deduct points for extra words used. :P

8-30-05 Met David at a restaurant in Germany

3-28-06 David 'officially' proposed

4-26-06 I-129F mailed

9-25-06 Interview: APPROVED!

10-16-06 Flt to US, POE Detroit

11-5-06 Married

7-2-07 Green card received

9-12-08 Filed for divorce

12-5-08 Court hearing - divorce final

A great marriage is not when the "perfect couple" comes together.

It is when an imperfect couple learns to enjoy their differences.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: England
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Regarding Question #22 on the I-130:

22. It seems like this question is only if your relative is in the U.S. (Complete the information below if your relative is in the United States and will apply for adjustment of status). But then there is another part within the same question (If your relative is not eligible for adjustment of status, he or she will apply for a visa abroad at the American consular post in __). Am I supposed to answer that second part?

I am also concerned about this one. On the form, Question #22 starts, in bold letters, with the following:

22. Complete the information below if your relative is in the United States and will apply for adjustment of status.

You suggest that we should fill out the second, "consulate" part of this question regardless. The wording in that second section does make one think that the consulate should be filled out, but it seems to against the specific instructions at the top of the question. Very frustrating.

There is a question on the I-129F (Q. #20) that asks for consulate information. This one is much more clear, and makes me think the information is required for both applications.

Has anybody here submitted the I-130 without the consulate part of #22 filled in? Did it go through okay?

For CR-1 Process:

CIS

08.17.06 - I-130 mailed to TSC

08.29.06 - NOA-1 generated

09.04.06 - NOA-1 received in the mail from CSC

09.11.06 - *Touch*

09.15.06 - *Touch*

11.01.06 - APPROVED!! [76 days]

NVC

11.20.06 - Case number assigned

11.21.06 - E-mailed Choice of Agent and mailed AOS Bill using James' Shortcuts

11.28.06 - Choice of Agent in NVC system

12.04.06 - IV Bill and I-864 Packet generated

12.06.06 - I-864 mailed using James' Shortcuts

12.12.06 - IV Bill rec'd via USPS and payment sent back to NVC same day

12.21.06 - I-864 in NVC system

12.26.06 - DS-230 generated

12.29.06 - DS-230 mailed using James' Shortcuts

01.08.07 - All paperwork in NVC system.

02.07.07 - Case complete [80 days]. NVC reports our file has left for London

*** Saved total of 29 days using James' Shortcuts***

London Embassy

03.06.07 - Packet arrives with interview date & instructions

04.03.07 - Medical in London - went smoothly

04.12.07 - 10.30 AM Interview at London Embassy - in and out in half an hour!

04.13.07 - Visa arrives at Hubby's home in York, 1.30 PM. WOW!

04.29.07 - Husband arrives in US via Newark. :)

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