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The way I figure it, all the fire and brimstone people on VJ are monotheists, why should they have all the fun? I'd like to see some animist/Pagan/native American fire and brimstone people too. That would kick a$$.

How did this thread turn into flaming..... a simple question was asked... my husband grew up Catholic, goes to church once in awhile and goes through the ritual, but mostly is agnostic/ me I'm pagan...

Cause everyone is still worked up about the "other" thread... :lol:

Joel and I don't claim anything. Growing up baptist and being abused by a man who used the bible as his excuse for his behaviour left a bad taste in my mouth for "religion".

Eh, we love being outdoors, hiking, that sort of thing. There's ways of worshipping without being in a building. I prefer to worship (if that's the right word) the way my ancestors, the Cherokee, did...by respecting the Earth. Hmm....does that make me pagan? :)

It makes you Cherokee. Pagan is from Europe. There are many types of worship that involve nature, that evolved in many different parts of the world. Develop your Cherokee brand of paganism and then come back to VJ talking about how those Euro-style Pagans are going to hell (or be reincarnated as rocks, whatever).

depends on your definition of pagan. many people think of hindus as pagan. not because they are not christian/jewish/muslim, but because of the polytheistic aspect.

Right, gotcha. I was referring to how steeped in pre-Christian European imagery and folklore most modern 'pagans' in north america actually are.

ah yes, like a lot of people who think it's really cool to follow the old celtic ways (while ignoring that the celts were brutal savages who conquered people)

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David and I - like mostly every part of our relationship - gel very well as far as religion is concerned. We share the same views on many things...and the things I love is that on the things we dont' agree with...we can sit and talk and share each other's POV in a very interesting and educational way.

I know it sounds trite...but it's true

Here's a bit from our wedding song:

She will listen to me

When I want to speak

About the world we live in

And life in general

Though my views may be wrong

They may even be perverted

Shell hear me out

And wont easily be converted

To my way of thinking

In fact shell often disagree

But at the end of it all

She will understand me

Aaaahhhhh....

aww Lisa, so far in my relatively short time here on VJ, I like you more and more every day :)

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David and I - like mostly every part of our relationship - gel very well as far as religion is concerned. We share the same views on many things...and the things I love is that on the things we dont' agree with...we can sit and talk and share each other's POV in a very interesting and educational way.

I know it sounds trite...but it's true

Here's a bit from our wedding song:

She will listen to me

When I want to speak

About the world we live in

And life in general

Though my views may be wrong

They may even be perverted

Shell hear me out

And wont easily be converted

To my way of thinking

In fact shell often disagree

But at the end of it all

She will understand me

Aaaahhhhh....

aww Lisa, so far in my relatively short time here on VJ, I like you more and more every day :)

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David and I - like mostly every part of our relationship - gel very well as far as religion is concerned. We share the same views on many things...and the things I love is that on the things we dont' agree with...we can sit and talk and share each other's POV in a very interesting and educational way.

I know it sounds trite...but it's true

Here's a bit from our wedding song:

She will listen to me

When I want to speak

About the world we live in

And life in general

Though my views may be wrong

They may even be perverted

Shell hear me out

And wont easily be converted

To my way of thinking

In fact shell often disagree

But at the end of it all

She will understand me

Aaaahhhhh....

OMG...you guys can't use THAT song! That's mine and Jinky's! :P (Somebody - Depeche Mode)

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Lisa, either you're really nice and have a devoted following, or you've frightened people into agreeing with you. ;)

:P

I'mma pick 'C' :P

David and I - like mostly every part of our relationship - gel very well as far as religion is concerned. We share the same views on many things...and the things I love is that on the things we dont' agree with...we can sit and talk and share each other's POV in a very interesting and educational way.

I know it sounds trite...but it's true

Here's a bit from our wedding song:

She will listen to me

When I want to speak

About the world we live in

And life in general

Though my views may be wrong

They may even be perverted

Shell hear me out

And wont easily be converted

To my way of thinking

In fact shell often disagree

But at the end of it all

She will understand me

Aaaahhhhh....

OMG...you guys can't use THAT song! That's mine and Jinky's! :P (Somebody - Depeche Mode)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

*dies a little*

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David and I - like mostly every part of our relationship - gel very well as far as religion is concerned. We share the same views on many things...and the things I love is that on the things we dont' agree with...we can sit and talk and share each other's POV in a very interesting and educational way.

I know it sounds trite...but it's true

Here's a bit from our wedding song:

She will listen to me

When I want to speak

About the world we live in

And life in general

Though my views may be wrong

They may even be perverted

Shell hear me out

And wont easily be converted

To my way of thinking

In fact shell often disagree

But at the end of it all

She will understand me

Aaaahhhhh....

aww Lisa, so far in my relatively short time here on VJ, I like you more and more every day :)

That's because you're not a geek with lunch money.

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David and I - like mostly every part of our relationship - gel very well as far as religion is concerned. We share the same views on many things...and the things I love is that on the things we dont' agree with...we can sit and talk and share each other's POV in a very interesting and educational way.

I know it sounds trite...but it's true

Here's a bit from our wedding song:

She will listen to me

When I want to speak

About the world we live in

And life in general

Though my views may be wrong

They may even be perverted

Shell hear me out

And wont easily be converted

To my way of thinking

In fact shell often disagree

But at the end of it all

She will understand me

Aaaahhhhh....

aww Lisa, so far in my relatively short time here on VJ, I like you more and more every day :)

That's because you're not a geek with lunch money.

He's just bitter cos he was obviously beaten and robbed at school :P

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David and I - like mostly every part of our relationship - gel very well as far as religion is concerned. We share the same views on many things...and the things I love is that on the things we dont' agree with...we can sit and talk and share each other's POV in a very interesting and educational way.

I know it sounds trite...but it's true

Here's a bit from our wedding song:

She will listen to me

When I want to speak

About the world we live in

And life in general

Though my views may be wrong

They may even be perverted

Shell hear me out

And wont easily be converted

To my way of thinking

In fact shell often disagree

But at the end of it all

She will understand me

Aaaahhhhh....

aww Lisa, so far in my relatively short time here on VJ, I like you more and more every day :)

That's because you're not a geek with lunch money.

He's just bitter cos he was obviously beaten and robbed at school :P

...bitter is the taste of your vitriolic vinagrette you serve up daily.

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Ouch....is it me or is it getting HOT in here.

*K1 Timeline

-2006-1-2 First Email and begain our relationship

-2006-3-26 Met in Moscow for an Awesome Week together

-2006-5-2 Sent K-1 to Texas Svc Center where it was transfered to California

-2006-5-12 K-1 'Officially' received at California Service Center

-2006-5-15 NOA1 Received

-2005-6-2 Met in Her hometown of Krasnodar,Russia for week vacation

-2006-6-4 'Officailly' Proposed to her after speaking to her family for Blessing of Marriage

-2006-7-01 1st RFE received

-2006-7-02 RFE sent back with paperwork

-2006-7-5 RFE received by CSV

-2006-7-14 Email confirming receipt of RFE

-2006-7-15 Touched

-2006-8-09 NOA2....Finally

-2006-8-28 NVC Approved

-2006-8-29 On its way to Moscow

-2006-10-29 Interview Scheduled for 2007-1-31

-2007-01-31 Interview Cancelled by Anna

-2007-04-09 Application sent back to CSV

-2007-04-30 Relationship eneded

2008-1-10 We begin to talk again

2008-2-05 after the storm we both admit that we were stubborn and not being flexible of ourselves and cultur

2008-6-10 discussions of our feelings for one another are admitted (we never fell out of love)

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Ouch....is it me or is it getting HOT in here.

See what you started? :P I'm sorry. But if anything, you can see how two opposing sets of values clash. I believe in the Golden Rule and Lisa believes she IS the Golden Rule.

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