Colombia Club

[Sam y Nydia 1]

Hola para todos!! Bueno ya estoy juntando mis papelitos, les escribi al NVC y miren lo que me respondieron:

Dear Madam,

Your inquiry has been received at the National Visa Center (NVC). The NVC has

completed its processing of the visa petition you mentioned in your letter and

has forwarded the petition to the assigned US Embassy for further processing.

Any further inquiries should be directed to the assigned US Embassy.

Case Number: BGT*************

Beneficiary's Name: SERRANO VARGAS,NYDIA

Preference Category: K1

Your Priority Date: 06Mar2007

Foreign State Chargeability: COLOMBIA

U.S. Embassy/Consulate: EMBAJADA DE LOS ESTADOS UNIDOS, VISA UNIT

CALLE 22D-BIS #47-51, AA 3831

BOGOTA

COLOMBIA

Bueno, lo que hice fue lo siguiente: Llame al NVC y me dicen que el numero de caso no se encuentra registrado o no ha llegado al nvc ummm que pasaria?

Mañana llamare un representante para salir de dudas.

[paisita411 0]

Sam y Nidia,

En este foro hay una indicacion escrita por PeterMiami que esplica como hacer el tracking de tus papeles a la embajada. Si llamas a NVC y no encuentras la informacion de acuerdo con esta carta, entonces utilizes el BGT# y llames a Bogota directamente (el telefono esta en la pagina de la embajada aqui mismo en VJ) y pregunteles a ellos si la han recibido. Te sugiero que les hables en ingles y que les informes de una que eres ciudadano americano y que llamas de estados unidos....Si el caso de tu novia se la asigno el BGT# debe estar o en NVC or en Bogota. Si la respuesta que indicas aqui te la dio el sistema automatizado, seguro de una de dos cosas pasaron, entraste el numero mal o la maquina se equivoco. Mejor hable con un humano...marcando primero el 1 para ingles o el 2 para espanol...y despues 5 para hablar con una representativa.

Buena suerte!!!

Dre

Hola para todos!! Bueno ya estoy juntando mis papelitos, les escribi al NVC y miren lo que me respondieron:

Dear Madam,

Your inquiry has been received at the National Visa Center (NVC). The NVC has

completed its processing of the visa petition you mentioned in your letter and

has forwarded the petition to the assigned US Embassy for further processing.

Any further inquiries should be directed to the assigned US Embassy.

Case Number: BGT*************

Beneficiary's Name: SERRANO VARGAS,NYDIA

Preference Category: K1

Your Priority Date: 06Mar2007

Foreign State Chargeability: COLOMBIA

U.S. Embassy/Consulate: EMBAJADA DE LOS ESTADOS UNIDOS, VISA UNIT

CALLE 22D-BIS #47-51, AA 3831

BOGOTA

COLOMBIA

Bueno, lo que hice fue lo siguiente: Llame al NVC y me dicen que el numero de caso no se encuentra registrado o no ha llegado al nvc ummm que pasaria?

Mañana llamare un representante para salir de dudas.

[lucho562 0]

lucho hermano, espero que tuviste un buen viaje a barranquilla, por lo menos el vuelo a bogota no sera tan largo y aburrido. vamos a llegar a bogota el mismo dia de tu entrevista, asi que estoy seguro que nos van a dar las buenas noticias esa tarde cuando hablemos, te estare llamando. me imagino que van a ir al lab y medico en estos dias, por favor cuando tengan tiempo, manteganos informado de como les fue. suerte con todito

cuidate y saludos a tu esposita

steve

Thanks to all the wishes of support. We had our lab & medical exam yesterday. We picked up the results today and everything was fine. One odd thing was that the DS156 was not asked for by Dra. Gonzales. We later called once we realized this and were told things at the consulate have changed as of 2 weeks ago. And that both DS156 were to be turned in together at the interview, apart from the medical exam envelope. I will be writing an extensive report on everything after we get approved tomorrow, God willing. Thanks to all once again.....and Bogota is tooooooooooo coldddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HAL 9000 96]

lucho hermano, espero que tuviste un buen viaje a barranquilla, por lo menos el vuelo a bogota no sera tan largo y aburrido. vamos a llegar a bogota el mismo dia de tu entrevista, asi que estoy seguro que nos van a dar las buenas noticias esa tarde cuando hablemos, te estare llamando. me imagino que van a ir al lab y medico en estos dias, por favor cuando tengan tiempo, manteganos informado de como les fue. suerte con todito

cuidate y saludos a tu esposita

steve

Thanks to all the wishes of support. We had our lab & medical exam yesterday. We picked up the results today and everything was fine. One odd thing was that the DS156 was not asked for by Dra. Gonzales. We later called once we realized this and were told things at the consulate have changed as of 2 weeks ago. And that both DS156 were to be turned in together at the interview, apart from the medical exam envelope. I will be writing an extensive report on everything after we get approved tomorrow, God willing. Thanks to all once again.....and Bogota is tooooooooooo coldddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!

veeeery interesting.

Dude, have fun in Bogotá!

[Chester y Monica 2]

Hello to all -

Is the Certificados de Policia the same as the as the "Pasado Judicial"?

Is there a fee in getting the "carta de entradas y salidas"? We will get this from DAS right?

[Sam y Nydia 1]

Hola Chester....

Pues si, Lucho me ayudo mucho sacandome de esa duda, y el pasado judicial es el mismo certificado judicial o de policia. No tienes que sacar "certificados de buena vecindad" como lo han hecho muchas chicas aconsejadas por otras personas de otros paises. En el caso de Colombia, solo se expide un solo certificado judicial (libreta verde) si la persona esta limpia de antecedentes. Si ella ha vivido en otros paises por mas de seis meses, pues tambien tendría que presentar el certificado de policia de todas las ciudades donde haya vivido en ese país.

Y que casualidad, hoy acabo de recibir despues de 5 semanas mi certificado migratorio (Carta de entradas y salidas de Colombia). La informacion para sacar este registro la puedes obtener en esta direccion http://www.das.gov.co/ en la parte donde dice SEDES, ahi encuentras el telefono y la direccion donde se debe ir personalmente (tu prometida) a solicitar ese documento. Este enlace te dice los documentos que ella tiene que presentar: http://www.gobiernoenlinea.gov.co/tramite.aspx?traID=1715 . Este certificado si tu prometida lo solicita en una ciudad que no sea Bogotá, pues le demora de 4 a 5 semanas en llegarle. Si se solicita directamente en Bogotá, tu prometida lo podrá obtener en máximo 4 días laborales.

Y te comento, cuando te entregan ese certificado te enfatizan en no abrirlo, porque entonces perdería su validez. Te lo entregan en un sobre sellado, y asi mismo se tiene que presentar al consul. Este documento tiene caducidad a los tres meses de la fecha de expedición.

Espero haberte servido en algo, y pues ahi se va aprendiendo poco a poco para colaborarle a las personas que lo necesitan.

Un abrazo para ambos,

[Bill y Bella 0]

Fiance went to have Registros Civil De Nacimiento for her and the children translated and certified in Bogota. (Which by the way was 1/10 the price and 1/7 the time quoted in Cucuta.) She was told that the dates (I assume las fechas de inscripcion) of the registros were too old (2004 & 2006) and she must get new ones. Which I think means a trip back to Cucuta to get updated registros. So my bright idea of telling her to wait until she moved to Bogota to have the documents translated has back fired.

Does this sound right? Do registros expire? Is there a way to renew one without travelling back to the place where it was issued?

I can't seem to grasp the Colombian system. There does not seem to be such a thing as an orignal birth certificate. There is only el registro which is created by the notaria and eventually becomes out of date.

What happens when she gets to the states and needs a birth certificate? Will a registro be accepted as a birth certificate and will it periodically need to be renewed? If someone moves from one end of Colombia to the other do they need to return to where they were born every few years to get an updated registro? That sounds crazy to me.

What is the latest on the need to submit the beneficiary's birth certificate with the I-129F? Required, not required or might be required? If I submit the I-129F without the beneficiary's birth certificate and it turns out they require it, will I lose any more time than the 3 weeks or so it is going to take to get the new registro from Cucuta and back to me in the US?

Thanks!

[HAL 9000 96]

Fiance went to have Registros Civil De Nacimiento for her and the children translated and certified in Bogota. (Which by the way was 1/10 the price and 1/7 the time quoted in Cucuta.) She was told that the dates (I assume las fechas de inscripcion) of the registros were too old (2004 & 2006) and she must get new ones. Which I think means a trip back to Cucuta to get updated registros. So my bright idea of telling her to wait until she moved to Bogota to have the documents translated has back fired.

Does this sound right? Do registros expire? Is there a way to renew one without travelling back to the place where it was issued?

I can't seem to grasp the Colombian system. There does not seem to be such a thing as an orignal birth certificate. There is only el registro which is created by the notaria and eventually becomes out of date.

What happens when she gets to the states and needs a birth certificate? Will a registro be accepted as a birth certificate and will it periodically need to be renewed? If someone moves from one end of Colombia to the other do they need to return to where they were born every few years to get an updated registro? That sounds crazy to me.

What is the latest on the need to submit the beneficiary's birth certificate with the I-129F? Required, not required or might be required? If I submit the I-129F without the beneficiary's birth certificate and it turns out they require it, will I lose any more time than the 3 weeks or so it is going to take to get the new registro from Cucuta and back to me in the US?

Thanks!

As far as I know, the instructions in the I-129f do not require a beneficiary's birth certificate. That's pretty much the latest.

A civil registry of birth should also be good for the life of the paper and ink on the registry. You're only born once. Maybe some more information as to why they told her she'd have to get a new one?

Hola Chester....

Pues si, Lucho me ayudo mucho sacandome de esa duda, y el pasado judicial es el mismo certificado judicial o de policia. No tienes que sacar "certificados de buena vecindad" como lo han hecho muchas chicas aconsejadas por otras personas de otros paises. En el caso de Colombia, solo se expide un solo certificado judicial (libreta verde) si la persona esta limpia de antecedentes. Si ella ha vivido en otros paises por mas de seis meses, pues tambien tendría que presentar el certificado de policia de todas las ciudades donde haya vivido en ese país.

Y que casualidad, hoy acabo de recibir despues de 5 semanas mi certificado migratorio (Carta de entradas y salidas de Colombia). La informacion para sacar este registro la puedes obtener en esta direccion http://www.das.gov.co/ en la parte donde dice SEDES, ahi encuentras el telefono y la direccion donde se debe ir personalmente (tu prometida) a solicitar ese documento. Este enlace te dice los documentos que ella tiene que presentar: http://www.gobiernoenlinea.gov.co/tramite.aspx?traID=1715 . Este certificado si tu prometida lo solicita en una ciudad que no sea Bogotá, pues le demora de 4 a 5 semanas en llegarle. Si se solicita directamente en Bogotá, tu prometida lo podrá obtener en máximo 4 días laborales.

Y te comento, cuando te entregan ese certificado te enfatizan en no abrirlo, porque entonces perdería su validez. Te lo entregan en un sobre sellado, y asi mismo se tiene que presentar al consul. Este documento tiene caducidad a los tres meses de la fecha de expedición.

Espero haberte servido en algo, y pues ahi se va aprendiendo poco a poco para colaborarle a las personas que lo necesitan.

Un abrazo para ambos,

Bravo Nydia. Ya le pasamos la batuta de ayuda forística a Ud. Saludos.

Willie

[buck501 0]

lucho hermano, espero que tuviste un buen viaje a barranquilla, por lo menos el vuelo a bogota no sera tan largo y aburrido. vamos a llegar a bogota el mismo dia de tu entrevista, asi que estoy seguro que nos van a dar las buenas noticias esa tarde cuando hablemos, te estare llamando. me imagino que van a ir al lab y medico en estos dias, por favor cuando tengan tiempo, manteganos informado de como les fue. suerte con todito

cuidate y saludos a tu esposita

steve

Thanks to all the wishes of support. We had our lab & medical exam yesterday. We picked up the results today and everything was fine. One odd thing was that the DS156 was not asked for by Dra. Gonzales. We later called once we realized this and were told things at the consulate have changed as of 2 weeks ago. And that both DS156 were to be turned in together at the interview, apart from the medical exam envelope. I will be writing an extensive report on everything after we get approved tomorrow, God willing. Thanks to all once again.....and Bogota is tooooooooooo coldddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Today is the day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait to hear the good news.

[Bill y Bella 0]

Maviwaro,

Thanks for the reply.

As to why the translator wants new registros, as I stated they said the dates were too old and they want them dated in 2007. That is all the information I have.

I agree that the I-129F instructions do not request the beneficiary's birth certificate. But I also think that I have seen multiple posts that stated that some applicants received an RFE and were asked to provide the document.

So, I am trying to determine if I should submit the I-129F now and risk the RFE or wait until we have an updated & translated registro to submit with the application. To me it comes down to how much time is lost when an RFE is issued. If it is only a couple of weeks, I think I should submit the application without the beneficiary's birth certificate and risk the RFE.

Thanks again.

[HAL 9000 96]

Maviwaro,

Thanks for the reply.

As to why the translator wants new registros, as I stated they said the dates were too old and they want them dated in 2007. That is all the information I have.

I agree that the I-129F instructions do not request the beneficiary's birth certificate. But I also think that I have seen multiple posts that stated that some applicants received an RFE and were asked to provide the document.

So, I am trying to determine if I should submit the I-129F now and risk the RFE or wait until we have an updated & translated registro to submit with the application. To me it comes down to how much time is lost when an RFE is issued. If it is only a couple of weeks, I think I should submit the application without the beneficiary's birth certificate and risk the RFE.

Thanks again.

Sounds silly to me, Kurios. A translator is not a US Gov't official and is not authorized to make such demands.

RFE requests on an I-129f revolve around the petitioner's role in providing clear evidence of the relationship to make a judgement more straightforward. I did not include my fiancee's birth certificate in the I-129f packet and have not heard of that happening in any RFE situation for anyone else here. The certificate, in Spanish, is needed for the US Embassy for the interview itself. No translation needed for that at all.

What you will need a translation of said document, as well as anything you plan on using as evidence, is for the Adjustment of Status process once you get married. And again, no translator can make that kind of demand for a translation- it seems to me that all you have to do is remind the translator that you can always use someone else's services for a similar price. This is Colombia after all.

[lucho562 0]

Approved!!! Easy as 1, 2, 3. I'll post details later, however the order is slightly different than anexo B.

[HAL 9000 96]

Let me be the first to say...

"OOOOOHHHH YEAH!"

Congrats lucho. See you in the AOS forum jejeej.

[Sam y Nydia 1]

EEEHHHHHHH FELICIDADES!!!

QUE ALEGRIA CUANDO ALGUIEN OBTIENE LO QUE QUIERE Y AHORA VAN A ESTAR JUNTITOS!! FELICIDADES LUCHOOO.

Y A WAVIARO, JAJAJA GRACIAS POR LA BATUTA!! ME ENCANTA INVESTIGAR Y AYUDAR A LA GENTE, PERO ES QUE ME LIMITO POR EL IDIOMA Y SOLO PUEDO RESPONDER EN ESPAÑOL..

[parkpapa 0]

Hello to all -

Is the Certificados de Policia the same as the as the "Pasado Judicial"?

Is there a fee in getting the "carta de entradas y salidas"? We will get this from DAS right?

Yes, the Pasado Judicial is the police report. And yes you get the carta de entradas y salidas from DAS. The cost should be in the neighborhood of 30,000 to 32,000 pesos ($15 to $16).