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Bill, Not sure where you are traveling from, yet here is the way I just did it and it was fairly inexpensive. I booked round trip flight to be in Bogota 5 days before the interview (help Sandy prepare, medical, etc.) and scheduled my return flight one week after the interview. Then I also booked one way tickets for Sandy and her daughter on the same flight I was returning to USA on.

My ticket was JFK to Bogota / Bogota to FLL $ 645.00 (all taxes included)

Sandy's Bogota to FLL $ 343.00 (all taxes included)

Her Daughter Vania (under 2 years) of age $117.00

I checked in case I would need to change my reservation (Avianca) Change fee $ 100.00 + differance in airfare from time of purchase for my round trip ticket, and $ 35.00 for Sandy's ticket.

Thanks Steve, that is very helpful! I usually fly from Philadelphia through Miami or Ft Lauderdale via Delta, US Air/Avianca or American. American is my preferred carrier although there are certain times of year when their fares go through the roof. I have most of my frequent flyer miles with them.

Steve, thanks for the tip. I understand how to fax packet 3 to the embassy, but I don't know if I should fax ONLY Margarita's DS230, or her daughter's also. The woman on the phone told me that I only need to send Margarita's ds230, but she also told me that Daniela (the 8 year old daughter) needs to attend the interview. I read on the embassy site that a child under 14 years of age that is listed under his/her parent on the same petition is not required to attend the interview. I don't trust what the woman on the phone told me.

John,

I faxed both Sandy' & her daughters DS-230 (part 1)

Additionally I did not see any young children at the Embassy last Friday.

I assume the child is riding her mothers K1 visa? Her's is then a K2.

Good luck!

STEVE & SANDY Hill

Our K1 Timeline

Met online - March 30 2007

Sent I129 - June 15 2007

Received - June 18 2007

Check Cashed - June 22 2007

Recieved NOA1 - June 25 2007

Receved NOA2 - November 20 2007 (FINALLY)

NVC received - November 26 2007

NVC mailed DHL to Bogota - November 28 2007

Package received Embassy in Bogota - December 3 2007

Faxed Packet 3 to Embassy - December 3 2007

Interview - January 18 2008 APPROVED

POE - FLL Jan 25 (Hassle free & quick)

Marriage - Feb. 19th 2008

AOS - EAD - AP Timeline

Mailed AOS, EAD & AP - March 13th 2008

Arrived at Chicago Lockbox - March 15 2008

Signature confirmation of delivery - March 16 2008

Check's cashed - March 21 2008

NOA's recieved - March 23 2008

Biometrics - April 16 2008

AP & EAD Received - May 16 2008

AOS Touches - May 14 & 18 2008

AOS card production ordered - June 12 2008

AOS welcome package sent - June 12 2008

Green Card's Recieved (Sandy & Daughter) June 20 2008

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Colombia
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HOLA!!

I'm home in PA!! I arrived to NYC/JFK on Sunday at 5 am, POE was easy I was out with my luggage by 5:30 waiting for my fiance. They didn't ask any question and I got EAD stamp! I'm very happy to be here!

Saludos,

Marcela

K1 TIMELINE

JULY 10 SENT 129 PACKAGE VERMONT SERVICE CENTER

JULY 13 NOA1

JULY 25 TOUCHED

NOVEMBER 26 APPROVED!!!!

DECEMBER 4 FAXED & MAILED PACKET 3 (Shortcut)

DECEMBER 7 RECEIVED PACKET 3

DECEMBER 11 RECEIVED PACKET 4

JANUARY 9 LAB @ 7:00am

JANUARY 14 PHYSICAL EXAM @ 11:45am

JANUARY 17 FIANCE COMES TO BOGOTÁ FOR THE INTERVIEW!

JANUARY 18 INTERVIEW!! APPROVED!

JANUARY 25 VISA DELIVERED

JANUARY 27 POE NYC/JFK GOT EAD STAMP

FEBRUARY 13 APPLIED FOR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER

FEBRUARY 20 GOT MARRIED!!! RECEIVED SOCIAL SECURITY CARD IN THE MAIL

FEBRUARY 21 DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT GOT VACCINATION SUPPLEMENT

AOS - ED - AP TIMELINE

MARCH 20 AOS PACKAGE SENT

MARCH 21 RECEIVED

MARCH 28 CHECK CASHED

MARCH 31 NOAS RECEIVED

APRIL 17 BIOMETRICS APPOINTMENT DONE!!!

APRIL 26 RECEIVED NOTICE OF ACTION DATED 4/22- CASE TRANSFERRED TO CALIFORNIA SERVICE CENTER

APRIL 30 I-485 CASE TOUCHED!

MAY 18 I-485 TOUCHED

MAY 30 AP APPROVED EAD CARD PRODUCTION ORDERED!!!

JUNE 4 AP RECEIVED IN THE MAIL

JUNE 9 EAD RECEIVED IN THE MAIL

JULY 17 I-485 TOUCHED

JULY 18 CARD PRODUCTION ORDERED!!!!!!!

JULY 29 RECEIVED GC IN THE MAIL

OCTOBER 10 2008 RELIGIOUS WEDDING!!!!!!

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HOLA!!

I'm home in PA!! I arrived to NYC/JFK on Sunday at 5 am, POE was easy I was out with my luggage by 5:30 waiting for my fiance. They didn't ask any question and I got EAD stamp! I'm very happy to be here!

Saludos,

Marcela

Welcome to the USA! :)

My Timeline:

7/27/07 VSC rcvd I-129F--8/7/07 NOA1 issued--12/12/07 NOA2 issued--12/27/07 Pkg 3 returned--2/29/08 Interview & Approval--4/1/08 POE--6/27/08 Married--6/27/08-6/5/09 Trying to figure out how to make this work--6/11/09 Submitted AOS forms--6/19/09 NOA's issued--7/21 Biometrics--7/27 Rcvd 2 of 3 Interview appt letters for 8/24--8/3 Rcvd 3rd interview appt letter for 8/28--8/5 Used infopass appt to consolidate interviews on 8/28--8/6/09 Rcvd email notification of AP & EAD approvals--8/11&12 Rcvd AP's in mail--8/14 Rcvd 1st EAD card in mail.--8/23/11 Mailed ROC Pkg.--8/24/11 NOA--10/5/11 Biometrics

My Favorite Links & Threads:

CSC & VSC K1 & K3 Recent approvals

Colombia Club Part 1 & Colombia Club Part 2

RFE List Learn from others' mistakes.

Red Flags Learn what to try to avoid or prepare to discuss and explain during interview.

HUSKERKIEV Thread Great insider tips from a former adjudicator at the Nebraska Service Center.

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Colombia
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HOLA!!

I'm home in PA!! I arrived to NYC/JFK on Sunday at 5 am, POE was easy I was out with my luggage by 5:30 waiting for my fiance. They didn't ask any question and I got EAD stamp! I'm very happy to be here!

Saludos,

Marcela

Welcome to the USA! :)

Congratulations and welcome Marcela.

Steve, it is a K2 for the girl. Thanks for responding. I will have Margarita fax a ds230 for each of them.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Colombia
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HOLA!!

I'm home in PA!! I arrived to NYC/JFK on Sunday at 5 am, POE was easy I was out with my luggage by 5:30 waiting for my fiance. They didn't ask any question and I got EAD stamp! I'm very happy to be here!

Saludos,

Marcela

Marcela,

Congratulations and welcome. You are hpe and an inspiration to the rest of us!!

Cameron

07/18/2006 Committed to each other

10/21/2006 Met Carina's family in Bogota

05/10/2007 Became engaged in Medellin

08/27/2007 Sent I-129F

09/18/2007 NOA1 Received

12/18/2007 NOA2 APPROVE

12/21/2007 NOA2 Hardcopy Received

01/11/2008 NVC Received

02/07/2008 FINALLY NVC forwards to Bogota! Longest month of my life.

02/11/2008 Embassy receives our case.

03/31/2008 Our Interview!!! Did I mention this is also my birthday????

03/31/2008 We had our interview and were APPROVED!

04/03/2008 Visas delivered to us in Bogota.

04/05/2008 We leave for the States. POE Atlanta.

"Give me liberty, or give me death" Patrick Henry

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Steve, it is a K2 for the girl. Thanks for responding. I will have Margarita fax a ds230 for each of them.

It will probably not hurt anything to do so, but as I stated yesterday it is not necessary to send the DS-230 for children accompanying the beneficiary when requesting an interview appointment. The embassy becomes aware that there will be accompanying children from line 21a of the beneficiary's DS-230. I did not send a DS-230 for the children and DOS confirms that the embassy has noted that they will also be applying for visas.

My Timeline:

7/27/07 VSC rcvd I-129F--8/7/07 NOA1 issued--12/12/07 NOA2 issued--12/27/07 Pkg 3 returned--2/29/08 Interview & Approval--4/1/08 POE--6/27/08 Married--6/27/08-6/5/09 Trying to figure out how to make this work--6/11/09 Submitted AOS forms--6/19/09 NOA's issued--7/21 Biometrics--7/27 Rcvd 2 of 3 Interview appt letters for 8/24--8/3 Rcvd 3rd interview appt letter for 8/28--8/5 Used infopass appt to consolidate interviews on 8/28--8/6/09 Rcvd email notification of AP & EAD approvals--8/11&12 Rcvd AP's in mail--8/14 Rcvd 1st EAD card in mail.--8/23/11 Mailed ROC Pkg.--8/24/11 NOA--10/5/11 Biometrics

My Favorite Links & Threads:

CSC & VSC K1 & K3 Recent approvals

Colombia Club Part 1 & Colombia Club Part 2

RFE List Learn from others' mistakes.

Red Flags Learn what to try to avoid or prepare to discuss and explain during interview.

HUSKERKIEV Thread Great insider tips from a former adjudicator at the Nebraska Service Center.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Colombia
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Welcome to the US Marcela and congratulations once again!

Diana

CR-1

02/05/07 - I-130 sent to NSC

05/03/07 - NOA2

05/10/07 - NVC receives petition, case # assigned

08/08/07 - Case Complete

09/27/07 - Interview, visa granted

10/02/07 - POE

11/16/07 - Received green card and Welcome to America letter in the mail

Removing Conditions

07/06/09 - I-751 sent to CSC

08/14/09 - Biometrics

09/27/09 - Approved

10/01/09 - Received 10 year green card

U.S. Citizenship

03/30/11 - N-400 sent via Priority Mail w/ delivery confirmation

05/12/11 - Biometrics

07/20/11 - Interview - passed

07/20/11 - Oath ceremony - same day as interview

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Colombia
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Lucho Congrats !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Scott Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bill where are you in the process?????????

Have not been here for a while......i have just been enjoying having Leidy and Daniel here with me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just went last Friday and got my Marriage license so now i am just waiting to get it in the mail and then will be going to take the plunge!!! :unsure: ...lol

I have to start getting ready for the AOS process!!!!!!!!!!! :wacko: I have nothing ready, but it will be a much easioer process ik sure with Leidy here with me!!!

Take care everyone and i will be touching base soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbs:

2/17/07-Met in Bogota

4/20/07-returned to Bogota to see her

5/18/07-sent out I129f

5/19/07-returned to Bogota to see her

5/21/07-received at VCS

5/28/07-Received NOA1

5/30/07-touch

7/4/07-returned to see her

10/17/07-Met Leidy in Panama for 5 days

10/26/07-RFE

10/27/07-Sent back RFE

10/29/07-Touch due to RFE arriving

10/30/07-Touch

10/31/07-Touch

11/15/07-NOA2 Sent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11/16/07-Touch

11/19/07-NVC Received

11/21/07-Left NVC for Consulate

11/22/07-Returned to see Leidy after her stay in the hospital..

11/23/07-Consualte received

11/26/07-Packet 3 sent to Leidy

12/04/07-Packet 3 received

12/04/07-Packet 3 sent

12/31/07-Interview date!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! APPROVED!!!!!!!!!!!

1/9/08- Leidy's overnight flight will arrive to JFK airport!!!!!!

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Bill where are you in the process?????????

We are marking time until our interview on Feb 29th.

I am glad to hear things are going well for you. The forums have been a little quiet since Leidy arrived. ;)

My Timeline:

7/27/07 VSC rcvd I-129F--8/7/07 NOA1 issued--12/12/07 NOA2 issued--12/27/07 Pkg 3 returned--2/29/08 Interview & Approval--4/1/08 POE--6/27/08 Married--6/27/08-6/5/09 Trying to figure out how to make this work--6/11/09 Submitted AOS forms--6/19/09 NOA's issued--7/21 Biometrics--7/27 Rcvd 2 of 3 Interview appt letters for 8/24--8/3 Rcvd 3rd interview appt letter for 8/28--8/5 Used infopass appt to consolidate interviews on 8/28--8/6/09 Rcvd email notification of AP & EAD approvals--8/11&12 Rcvd AP's in mail--8/14 Rcvd 1st EAD card in mail.--8/23/11 Mailed ROC Pkg.--8/24/11 NOA--10/5/11 Biometrics

My Favorite Links & Threads:

CSC & VSC K1 & K3 Recent approvals

Colombia Club Part 1 & Colombia Club Part 2

RFE List Learn from others' mistakes.

Red Flags Learn what to try to avoid or prepare to discuss and explain during interview.

HUSKERKIEV Thread Great insider tips from a former adjudicator at the Nebraska Service Center.

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Colombia
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I thought this could be interesting for those who are planning their weddings in USA within the AOS time frame. We got married the 23rd in SF City Hall, and we where planning to apply for AOS right the way, but we wont be getting our marriage certificate for at least 2 weeks (they said between 2 and 4) I don’t now if that applies for all places but if it does but it means that people should get married as soon as possible in order to keep everything within the 3 months time frame . So that ups at least 15 days to the waiting time for us!!!

CONGRATS NEWLYWEDS!!!!!

We have the same concern...it will be 4-6 weeks for us to receive our marriage certificate but we do have a copy of the completed marriage license. We have'nt started the AOS documents yet but we will keep you posted on what is necessary when we begin. Maybe someone can help us answer this question...pretty pleeeeeeeeeeeeease! :lol:

PS. Just caught up on all the latest and greatest news... :dance:CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL !!!!! :dance:

Scott

K1 TIMELINE

04/31/07-Sent out I-129F

05/03/07-NOA1"priority date"

08/20/07-Received hard copy of NOA1...HOORAAY!

09/21/07-NOA2 "APPROVED"

09/26/07-NOA2 Hardcopy

10/31/07-NVC mailed I-129F to Bogota via DHL

11/09/07-Called Dept. of State and interview is set for 12/12/07

12/07/07-Yenifer and I arrive in Bogota

12/12/07-VISA "APPROVED"

12/19/07-Point Of Entry: Miami

01/23/08-Married

AOS, EAD + AP TIMELINE

02/25/08-Mailed AOS, EAD + AP

02/26/08-Packet arrived in Chicago

03/06/08-NOAs received

03/25/08-Biometrics appointment

05/05/08-EAD received

05/09/08-AP received

06/30/08-Card production ordered

07/15/08-Received card today!!!

LIFT CONDITIONS (I-751)

03/15/10-File to lift conditions

03/19/10-NOA1 I-751 receipt notice

03/26/10-NOA2 biometrics scheduled

04/22/10-Biometrics appointment

06/14/10-Card production ordered

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Colombia
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Hi Everyone, I am silent reader from last year. I have a question for those of you who have brought the children over with the parent on the visa. What was requested from you at the embassy? Did they need the baptismal certificate? What about the DAS? We have a letter from the Colombian Embassy that we will have authorized in Bogota so the kids can leave. Any help would be great. The boys are 16 and 11.

Why is it that the only one who can stop the crying is the one who started it in the first place?



More Complete Story here
My Saga includes 2 step sons
USC Married 4/2007 Colombian on overstay since 2001 of B1/B2 visa
Applied 5/2007 Approved GC in Hand 10/2007
I-751 mailed 6/30/09 aapproved 11/7/09 The BOYS I-751 Mailed 12/29/09 3/23/10 Email approval for 17 CR 3/27/10
4/14/10 Email approval for 13 yr Old CR 4/23/10

Oldest son now 21 I-130 filed by LPR dad ( as per NVC CSPA is applying here )
I-130 approved 2/24
Priority date 12/6/2007
4/6/2010 letter from NVC arrives to son dated 3/4/2010
5/4/10 received AOS and DS3032 via email
9/22/10 Interview BOG Passed
10/3/10 POE JFK all went well
11/11/10 GC Received smile.png


Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Colombia
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Hi Everyone, I am silent reader from last year. I have a question for those of you who have brought the children over with the parent on the visa. What was requested from you at the embassy? Did they need the baptismal certificate? What about the DAS? We have a letter from the Colombian Embassy that we will have authorized in Bogota so the kids can leave. Any help would be great. The boys are 16 and 11.

Byron, first of all, congratulations!! I read somewhere (I think on this site) that when you get married it is best to ask the minister or judge if you can take the license to wherever it is you take it. This way you can ask for a notarized copy right away, before it gets sent to some other office and you have to wait an aditional few weeks. here is the link http://www.visajourney.com/faq/k1k2visa-aos.html item number 6.2.3

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Colombia
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Hi Everyone, I am silent reader from last year. I have a question for those of you who have brought the children over with the parent on the visa. What was requested from you at the embassy? Did they need the baptismal certificate? What about the DAS? We have a letter from the Colombian Embassy that we will have authorized in Bogota so the kids can leave. Any help would be great. The boys are 16 and 11.

Bumping Please, trying to get everything together. I am in my busy season at work ( I work in Flowers, yes ironic seeing as I married a Colombian ) and need all the help I can get.

Thanks A Million

Why is it that the only one who can stop the crying is the one who started it in the first place?



More Complete Story here
My Saga includes 2 step sons
USC Married 4/2007 Colombian on overstay since 2001 of B1/B2 visa
Applied 5/2007 Approved GC in Hand 10/2007
I-751 mailed 6/30/09 aapproved 11/7/09 The BOYS I-751 Mailed 12/29/09 3/23/10 Email approval for 17 CR 3/27/10
4/14/10 Email approval for 13 yr Old CR 4/23/10

Oldest son now 21 I-130 filed by LPR dad ( as per NVC CSPA is applying here )
I-130 approved 2/24
Priority date 12/6/2007
4/6/2010 letter from NVC arrives to son dated 3/4/2010
5/4/10 received AOS and DS3032 via email
9/22/10 Interview BOG Passed
10/3/10 POE JFK all went well
11/11/10 GC Received smile.png


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Hi Everyone, I am silent reader from last year. I have a question for those of you who have brought the children over with the parent on the visa. What was requested from you at the embassy?

Did they need the baptismal certificate? What about the DAS? We have a letter from the Colombian Embassy that we will have authorized in Bogota so the kids can leave. Any help would be great. The boys are 16 and 11.

I have not been through the process yet but maybe I can help. I have studied this a lot.

The children need:

  1. DS-156 (2 copies)
  2. DS-230 Part I
  3. 6 photos
  4. Passport
  5. Orignal or notarized copy of the birth certificate. Make sure that the notary's color stamps are on the copy.
  6. Original or authenticated copy of the baptism certificate with notas marginales (We obtained new ones from the church.)
  7. Judicial and prison records if they were ever arrested.
  8. If they are 18 or older a Colombian Judicial Police Report (Does not apply)
  9. If they are 16 or older and lived 6 months or more since attaining the age of 16 in another country (other than the US or Venezuela) they must have a police certificate from that country. The 6 months is cumulative. If they lived somewhere else for 4 months and then lived there again for 2 months they must obtain the police certificate. (Might apply to the 16 year old.)
  10. DAS Migratorio Certificate (maybe). I think if the oldest boy is 16 1/2 months old or older I would obtain one for him. This is the document they use to determine if a police certificate from another country is required. You do not need one for the younger child.
  11. Medical exam and lab tests
  12. Paid visa fee
  13. The 16 year old must attend the interview. The younger one does not need to attend but he can.
In addition, if there is a father on the birth certificates you must have a notarized letter from the father stating that he grants the child (children) permission to leave the country. This is enforced by DAS at the airport. The letter cannot be more than 60 days old on the day they leave the country. If the father is dead you will need a death certificate. If the father cannot be found, you will need proof of abandonment. I think that comes from ICBF. Maybe the letter from the Colombian embassy covers all of this. What does it say? Remember that the US embassy has nothing to do with this. You will want to make sure in advance that the documents will be accepted by DAS at the airport.

I hope this helps.

My Timeline:

7/27/07 VSC rcvd I-129F--8/7/07 NOA1 issued--12/12/07 NOA2 issued--12/27/07 Pkg 3 returned--2/29/08 Interview & Approval--4/1/08 POE--6/27/08 Married--6/27/08-6/5/09 Trying to figure out how to make this work--6/11/09 Submitted AOS forms--6/19/09 NOA's issued--7/21 Biometrics--7/27 Rcvd 2 of 3 Interview appt letters for 8/24--8/3 Rcvd 3rd interview appt letter for 8/28--8/5 Used infopass appt to consolidate interviews on 8/28--8/6/09 Rcvd email notification of AP & EAD approvals--8/11&12 Rcvd AP's in mail--8/14 Rcvd 1st EAD card in mail.--8/23/11 Mailed ROC Pkg.--8/24/11 NOA--10/5/11 Biometrics

My Favorite Links & Threads:

CSC & VSC K1 & K3 Recent approvals

Colombia Club Part 1 & Colombia Club Part 2

RFE List Learn from others' mistakes.

Red Flags Learn what to try to avoid or prepare to discuss and explain during interview.

HUSKERKIEV Thread Great insider tips from a former adjudicator at the Nebraska Service Center.

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Colombia
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Hi Everyone, I am silent reader from last year. I have a question for those of you who have brought the children over with the parent on the visa. What was requested from you at the embassy?

Did they need the baptismal certificate? What about the DAS? We have a letter from the Colombian Embassy that we will have authorized in Bogota so the kids can leave. Any help would be great. The boys are 16 and 11.

I have not been through the process yet but maybe I can help. I have studied this a lot.

The children need:

  1. DS-156 (2 copies)
  2. DS-230 Part I
  3. 6 photos
  4. Passport
  5. Orignal or notarized copy of the birth certificate. Make sure that the notary's color stamps are on the copy.
  6. Original or authenticated copy of the baptism certificate with notas marginales (We obtained new ones from the church.)
  7. Judicial and prison records if they were ever arrested.
  8. If they are 18 or older a Colombian Judicial Police Report (Does not apply)
  9. If they are 16 or older and lived 6 months or more since attaining the age of 16 in another country (other than the US or Venezuela) they must have a police certificate from that country. The 6 months is cumulative. If they lived somewhere else for 4 months and then lived there again for 2 months they must obtain the police certificate. (Might apply to the 16 year old.)
  10. DAS Migratorio Certificate (maybe). I think if the oldest boy is 16 1/2 months old or older I would obtain one for him. This is the document they use to determine if a police certificate from another country is required. You do not need one for the younger child.
  11. Medical exam and lab tests
  12. Paid visa fee
  13. The 16 year old must attend the interview. The younger one does not need to attend but he can.
In addition, if there is a father on the birth certificates you must have a notarized letter from the father stating that he grants the child (children) permission to leave the country. This is enforced by DAS at the airport. The letter cannot be more than 60 days old on the day they leave the country. If the father is dead you will need a death certificate. If the father cannot be found, you will need proof of abandonment. I think that comes from ICBF. Maybe the letter from the Colombian embassy covers all of this. What does it say? Remember that the US embassy has nothing to do with this. You will want to make sure in advance that the documents will be accepted by DAS at the airport.

I hope this helps.

My fiance, Margarita, has a brother that lives in the US. He came here on a tourist visa 9 years ago,and he never left. He lives in Pensylvania,and I livein Wisconsin. Will this be a problem for us? Question 37 on the DS156 asks if she has family here, and what is there status. The answer will be working. We are too scared to lie about it. Any insite is appreciated. thanks

john

 
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