Arizona Official Threatens to Cut Off Los Angeles Power as Payback for Boycott

[DEDixon 39]

It's not the right that do it, it's everyone.

so not only does the left promote slavery, the left is also guilty of exploiting illegals. nice to know that the right isn't the only ones taking advantage of the left's weak immigration policy.

[mawilson 2,133]

It's not the right that do it, it's everyone. The bottom line is, people love their cheap sh!t. How else do you explain the rabid success of a ####### company like Walmart?

That's because the outsourcing of American jobs to foreign countries and the insourcing of

cheap labor from foreign countries have driven the wages down to a level where all Americans

can afford is cheap sh!t.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

That's because the outsourcing of American jobs to foreign countries and the insourcing of

cheap labor from foreign countries have driven the wages down to a level where all Americans

can afford is cheap sh!t.

The weakening of the unions, also has had a big impact on driving down wages.

[mawilson 2,133]

The weakening of the unions, also has had a big impact on driving down wages.

No doubt.

[sjr09 155]

You can see them from your Hawaiian bungalow.

Ahhh common now! Don’t be jealous, just because you live in derelict state.

[Heracles 417]

That's because the outsourcing of American jobs to foreign countries and the insourcing of

cheap labor from foreign countries have driven the wages down to a level where all Americans

can afford is cheap sh!t.

Bingo! The average Joe can only afford walmart now. Hence the companies $408 billion in revenue. Just think of the hundreds of billions that are being sent to foreign countries in the name of buying a sock cheaper than it wold cost to make here. I now avoid that company like the plague.

Ahhh common now! Don’t be jealous, just because you live in derelict state.

The irony is that I recently read an article about Hollywood moving a lot of their productions to Mexico.

[Heracles 417]

The weakening of the unions, also has had a big impact on driving down wages.

Unlike the 20,000,000 illegals (basically Australia's entire population) willing to work for less than $6 an hour and with no benefits. Apparently that has benefited the country, as well as the 12,000,000 Californians classified as living in poverty.

The biggest hypocrisy is your defense of unions, then only to turn a blind eye to illegal aliens. As in, a group of employees that disregard everything and anything a union stands for and has fought for. One guess which group speaks up the most about clamping down on illegal aliens abroad. Gezz I wonder why that is? Another guess why blue collar workers can earn as much as American dentists over there. Furthermore, why it can take a week or more for a tradesmen to come out and price a job. Why do you think that is? Why do you think this tradesmen drives a $75K truck - that's how much f150 cost there - that he has paid in cash?

Edited May 20, 2010 by Booyah!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The problem in a lot of cases is that many of the unskilled jobs that those people do really are the ones that Americans don't want to do.

Much the same problem exists in Britain - unemployment welfare and housing benefit pays more than a low-wage job. So why would anyone on welfare willing take a job in order to be worse off?

People say that they want to get rid of the illegal workforce in the US, but are they really prepared to accept the inevitable (and quite predictable) consequences of that?

[JohnSmith2007 353]

The problem in a lot of cases is that many of the unskilled jobs that those people do really are the ones that Americans don't want to do.

Much the same problem exists in Britain - unemployment welfare and housing benefit pays more than a low-wage job. So why would anyone on welfare willing take a job in order to be worse off?

People say that they want to get rid of the illegal workforce in the US, but are they really prepared to accept the inevitable (and quite predictable) consequences of that?

Yes.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Yes.

I hope so.

[Heracles 417]

The problem in a lot of cases is that many of the unskilled jobs that those people do really are the ones that Americans don't want to do.

Much the same problem exists in Britain - unemployment welfare and housing benefit pays more than a low-wage job. So why would anyone on welfare willing take a job in order to be worse off?

People say that they want to get rid of the illegal workforce in the US, but are they really prepared to accept the inevitable (and quite predictable) consequences of that?

That's the UK, no offense you guys are renowned for being bludgers. Not to mention, no such welfare incentives exists here. Furthermore, you ignore why this is not the case in Australia. Hint, strict immigration and no open-border policy (except for NZ) means a tightly controlled labor market. Supply and Demand 101.

Instead of beating around the bush, why not setup a process like the H1 where an employer has to advertise a job in America for a few weeks, record potential candidates and only then seek foreign labor. What it comes down to is this. It's a hell of a lot cheaper to slave drive and use illegal labor period; which is usually paid under the table, no insurance etc. If the person loses an arm while working, they are fired and sent to an ER where they are treated for free. Slave driver hires someone else. After all, there was a reason why slavery was more popular than using child labor, as was the case in the North - it was cheaper.

Edited May 20, 2010 by Booyah!

[Heracles 417]

Canada and Australia are doing just fine without the need for illegal aliens. Not only is there people willing to do the work but prices are also still reasonable. Only difference is that slave drivers are as common as people installing horseshoes.

Edited May 20, 2010 by Booyah!

[DEDixon 39]

The problem in a lot of cases is that many of the unskilled jobs that those people do really are the ones that Americans don't want to do.

i disagree. i think americans would do these jobs if the illegals were not there to drive down the wage and the working conditions.

but, we'll probably never know if americans would do these jobs, because the left does nothing to stop the inflow of slave labor.

Canada and Australia are doing just fine without the need for illegal aliens.

does AUS have any kind of guest worker program?

[Heracles 417]

does AUS have any kind of guest worker program?

They do but they have to be paid the going rate of any Australian doing the equivalent work. This genuinely ensures that people are only employed when there is an actual shortage of others to do the work.

Edited May 20, 2010 by Booyah!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

That's the UK, no offense you guys are renowned for being bludgers. Not to mention, no such welfare incentives exists here. Furthermore, you ignore why this is not the case in Australia. Hint, strict immigration and no open-border policy (except for NZ) means a tightly controlled labor market. Supply and Demand 101.

Instead of beating around the bush, why not setup a process like the H1 where an employer has to advertise a job in America for a few weeks, record potential candidates and only then seek foreign labor. What it comes down to is this. It's a hell of a lot cheaper to slave drive and using illegal labor, which is usually paid under the table. No insurance etc. If the person loses an arm while working, they are fired and sent to an Er where they are treated for free. Slave driver hires someone else. After all, there was a reason slavery was so popular than using child labor as was the case in the North - it was cheaper.

You don't understand the UK's immigration system. The vast majority of immigration to the UK is legal - because under EU law, European citizens have the right to travel and work without restriction. We don't really have a significant problem with illegal immigrants and the perception that illegals get more benefits and rights than citizens has more to do with asylum seekers from the Balkans, the Middle-east and African countries who have to be accommodated while their cases go through the system.

The UK can't have a visa system for legal immigrants. We already have a points (and visa) system for people outside the EU zone.

i disagree. i think americans would do these jobs if the illegals were not there to drive down the wage and the working conditions.

but, we'll probably never know if americans would do these jobs, because the left does nothing to stop the inflow of slave labor.

If the wages go up, then the prices of those products will go up too.

Edited May 20, 2010 by Its a MADHOUSE