Mississippi School Board Banned Jewish Student From Wearing Star of David

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I think it is telling that steve had to go back more than 10 years to find this story.

HAd he been searching for Little Christian children having their rights stepped would have been a whole lot easier.

I know you love to hate the ACLU, but they just fight hard for the Constitution, even in cases regarding religious expression:

The ACLU fights just as hard for INDIVIDUAL free exercise of religion as the ACLU fights against GOVERNMENT endorsement, sponsorship, or establishment of religion. Despite this fact, many people spread misinformation about the ACLU around the internet, innocently and maliciously, falsely claiming the ACLU is anti-religion or anti-Christian.

http://www.aclufight...christians.com/

Looking at Nativity displays in town halls?

See above post.

Edited May 11, 2010 by El Buscador

[Danno 1,228]

I know you love to hate the ACLU, but they just fight hard for the Constitution, even in cases regarding religious expression:

Speaking of......

TEll me how many gun-rights cases they have bank rolled?

The truth is: They fight hard for "THEIR INTERPRETATION" of what the Constitution should read.

[JohnSmith2007 353]

I know you love to hate the ACLU, but they just fight hard for the Constitution, even in cases regarding religious expression:

The ACLU fights just as hard for INDIVIDUAL free exercise of religion as the ACLU fights against GOVERNMENT endorsement, sponsorship, or establishment of religion. Despite this fact, many people spread misinformation about the ACLU around the internet, innocently and maliciously, falsely claiming the ACLU is anti-religion or anti-Christian.

http://www.aclufight...christians.com/

See above post.

The clause in question has nothing to do with seperating religion and government. It is about establishing a national religion like England did with the Church of England. Displaying religious symbols on public proporty was never excluded in the constitution. It is groups like the ACLU that have perverted the constitution via inane lawsuits and activist judges to make it like it is today.

[Heracles 417]

The clause in question has nothing to do with seperating religion and government. It is about establishing a national religion like England did with the Church of England. Displaying religious symbols on public proporty was never excluded in the constitution. It is groups like the ACLU that have perverted the constitution via inane lawsuits and activist judges to make it like it is today.

Bingo!

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Speaking of......

TEll me how many gun-rights cases they have bank rolled?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/05/us/05guns.html?_r=1

[Heracles 417]

I know you love to hate the ACLU, but they just fight hard for the Constitution, even in cases regarding religious expression:

The ACLU fights just as hard for INDIVIDUAL free exercise of religion as the ACLU fights against GOVERNMENT endorsement, sponsorship, or establishment of religion. Despite this fact, many people spread misinformation about the ACLU around the internet, innocently and maliciously, falsely claiming the ACLU is anti-religion or anti-Christian.

As well as drug pushers, pedophiles, gangs / organized crime right to freedom etc etc etc.

Nevertheless, it's not false claims at all actually, it's what they do. I come from a country where a school or government is permitted to celebrate with its constituents and their various diverse beliefs, be it Buddhist, Hindi, Christian, Jewish or Muslim. That is simply not permitted here period. Come to think of it, it's certainly something reminiscent of the old .

Edited May 11, 2010 by Booyah!

[JohnSmith2007 353]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/05/us/05guns.html?_r=1

Yay! There is one!! Ok, I take back everything I ever said about the ACLU.

[ScratchIt 12]

It's called being smart-enough to use a netbook at work, linked via a VPN session, to my home network. Thus, bypassing any corporate rules. Naturally with a screen so small, spelling mistakes do happen. Not to mention, I don't have the time to go and proofread everything.

I love it when legacy members with new screenames get all witty; reminds me of the old days. Especially the members who do everything they can to stay anonymous, yet talk a big game.

You haven't said one thing over x years that I could sell for 1 cent, evidently this still stands. Like many of the legacy members, you like to throw out insults and never back them up using actual credentials, wealth etc etc etc.

New screen name? Had it for awhile. My legacy account, as you call it, is what I use it for taking care of the serious business of the immigration process, not to give you another account to hate. That is why I created this account. I don't care what happens to it, don't care if I get banned. Don't care if you get pissed. Deal with the account that deals with you. VPN tokens? Yup you're a smart one all right. Been doing VPN Safelink for about 3 years now. So has almost every one I work with from college educated, over-inflated egos like yours down to the lowest guy in the warehouse who is priceless because he's been doing his job for 20 years rather than playing on the computer at work.

Your supposed credentials and wealth don't impress, never have. They don't change the crappy person you are. What do I need to "back-up"? Your spelling was bad, you blame the computer, you claim to be perfect yet make never-ending mistakes. It's always some one else to blame isn't it? My "back-up" are your words. What else do I need? Dance snail dance, daddy needs someone to laugh at.

[GabiandVi 34]

They eventually figured it out after somebody gave the school board a history lesson.

Actually, the Star of David IS a gang symbol. My guess is that it arose as such from rappers wearing them along with a host of other symbols. I don't know that, but it makes sense to me.

I have one fool who wears a large, glass-encrusted silver one to class most days. He has no idea why he does it any more than he understands why he feels compelled to write his gang letters on every surface, but there you have it.

What I find interesting here, is that you snidely imply that you are more enlightened than an entire group of people by virtue of their geographic location, yet you are the one who is ignorant that the Star of David actually is a gang symbol. Maybe you don't get the irony there, but I found it a bit humorous.

[Heracles 417]

New screen name? Had it for awhile. My legacy account, as you call it, is what I use it for taking care of the serious business of the immigration process, not to give you another account to hate. That is why I created this account. I don't care what happens to it, don't care if I get banned. Don't care if you get pissed. Deal with the account that deals with you. VPN tokens? Yup you're a smart one all right. Been doing VPN Safelink for about 3 years now. So has almost every one I work with from college educated, over-inflated egos like yours down to the lowest guy in the warehouse who is priceless because he's been doing his job for 20 years rather than playing on the computer at work.

Your supposed credentials and wealth don't impress, never have. They don't change the crappy person you are. What do I need to "back-up"? Your spelling was bad, you blame the computer, you claim to be perfect yet make never-ending mistakes. It's always some one else to blame isn't it? My "back-up" are your words. What else do I need? Dance snail dance, daddy needs someone to laugh at.

Yawn. Yeah you really got me by pointing out I mistyped ACLU twice, though ignoring I also spelled it correctly twice, in the same post. Nothing get past you hey. Anyone with a drop of deductive reasoning would have put two and two together before opening their mouth and looking like a fool.

The rest is typical rubbish that is not even worth responding to. The equivalent of me saying you are gay and so forth. Basically yada yada yada. To be honest, I couldn't tell you much about anything you posted in the past as I have just not paid attention. I do recall you making a few comments on EP and the one about storing supplies because the country or world would end, but that is about it. You do have a knack for comments like "Dance snail dance, daddy needs someone to laugh at". You win in that department, as those sort are definitely right down your alley - your forte.

Edited May 12, 2010 by Booyah!

[_Simpson_ 250]

God Bless the ACLU. Where would we be without 'em?

Hey now lets not get carried away.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Actually, the Star of David IS a gang symbol. My guess is that it arose as such from rappers wearing them along with a host of other symbols. I don't know that, but it makes sense to me.

I have one fool who wears a large, glass-encrusted silver one to class most days. He has no idea why he does it any more than he understands why he feels compelled to write his gang letters on every surface, but there you have it.

What I find interesting here, is that you snidely imply that you are more enlightened than an entire group of people by virtue of their geographic location, yet you are the one who is ignorant that the Star of David actually is a gang symbol. Maybe you don't get the irony there, but I found it a bit humorous.

So you contend then that even the most sacred of symbols can take on entirely different meanings depending on the context. A Jewish student wearing the emblem is quite different from a student wearing it as a gang symbol. Now imagine if gangs started using the stars and stripes as gang symbols. These are the complex issues that school officials have to deal with. How to protect a student's right to speech while also protecting the safety of the campus? What the ACLU has said about the students wearing the flag t-shirts as well as this Jewish student wearing the Star of David, that these are within the right of speech for students. I'm glad that you acknowledge that it's not always cut and dry - that a symbol doesn't always mean one thing and there are no symbols that are so sacrosanct, they are above being used to mean something completely different from their original or conventional meaning. Context is everything.

[GabiandVi 34]

So you contend then that even the most sacred of symbols can take on entirely different meanings depending on the context. A Jewish student wearing the emblem is quite different from a student wearing it as a gang symbol. Now imagine if gangs started using the stars and stripes as gang symbols. These are the complex issues that school officials have to deal with. How to protect a student's right to speech while also protecting the safety of the campus? What the ACLU has said about the students wearing the flag t-shirts as well as this Jewish student wearing the Star of David, that these are within the right of speech for students. I'm glad that you acknowledge that it's not always cut and dry - that a symbol doesn't always mean one thing and there are no symbols that are so sacrosanct, they are above being used to mean something completely different from their original or conventional meaning. Context is everything.

Ah. So this is about the flag wearing. Yes. You are right. Context is important. The context was America. The context included Americans wearing the American flag. The context included students saying it was disrespectful for Americans to wear American flags in America. I read that context and I find it frightening. It is political correctness to the final degree. Even, according to you, the ACLU agrees with me. Are you still trying to make the point that the ACLU in that case is wrong?

Maybe we should learn a lesson from the Cajuns. Those who held them in disdain began to call them "coonasses" in an attempt to belittle them. The Cajuns, in their humorous wisdom, appropriated that term themselves. It holds no power of contempt over them because they wear it proudly. If you want to be offended by someone wearing an American flag, it will offend you. Does that mean I can no longer wear it? I'd like to protect the context here - America, Amerians, American symbol. I'd like to not let people assign it the power to offend. And I'm pretty disgusted that anyone living in America is actually offended by its symbol.

Meanwhile, you glossed over your disdain for Mississippians. Do you know any? Or have you prejudged them?

[GabiandVi 34]

So you contend then that even the most sacred of symbols can take on entirely different meanings depending on the context. A Jewish student wearing the emblem is quite different from a student wearing it as a gang symbol. Now imagine if gangs started using the stars and stripes as gang symbols. These are the complex issues that school officials have to deal with. How to protect a student's right to speech while also protecting the safety of the campus? What the ACLU has said about the students wearing the flag t-shirts as well as this Jewish student wearing the Star of David, that these are within the right of speech for students. I'm glad that you acknowledge that it's not always cut and dry - that a symbol doesn't always mean one thing and there are no symbols that are so sacrosanct, they are above being used to mean something completely different from their original or conventional meaning. Context is everything.

By the way, you did notice that I said I have a student who wears the Star of David as a gang symbol. It has never, even for a second, occurred to me, or, apparently, anyone else at the school to tell him he cannot wear it. His foolishness does not supercede the true significance of the symbol. When I see him wearing it, I see only ignorance and stupidity. It has no power to offend.

[Pooky 3,795]

By the way, you did notice that I said I have a student who wears the Star of David as a gang symbol. It has never, even for a second, occurred to me, or, apparently, anyone else at the school to tell him he cannot wear it. His foolishness does not supercede the true significance of the symbol. When I see him wearing it, I see only ignorance and stupidity. It has no power to offend.

Common sense interpretation is the key