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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Australia
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I think Bob's being misunderstood. He was saying basically, your lawyer was right. IF, at the time of speaking with your lawyer and finding out it was an option you immediately AOS'd you wouldn't have this "intent" issue. BUT seeing you are back in your home country "researching" it and you know now that it CAN be done that way, you now have the issue of intent.

The issue is, you know now this exists. If you had prior knowledge this was a possibly BEFORE you entered the country then you technically are doing something illegal.

Lets pretend you DID try and do it this way (whether you had intent or not) the risks of doing it this way are high. If you are denied and you overstayed your I-94 in order to wait for the results of your AOS and that time exceeded 180 days past your i-94 date, you would get a 3 year ban. If you applied for AOS immediattely after entering the Us on a tourist (etc) visa then it appears like it WAS premeditated. Most of the time this sort of thing happens close to the I-94 expiry date (when it really IS "spur of the moment") because, faced with the knowledge that your loved one is leaving again soon, that's when these ideas and decisions are made. AOS'ing takes roughly 90 days BUT it can take longer so it's very risky that you'll pass the 180 day mark.

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As you have asked several times but never had answered, yes, you can continue to visit your husband until the visa is approved. You can stay with him (up until your I-94 date of course) and then leave to be there for the interview and medical and police check's etc that need to be done. Sometimes it's harder to enter but if you wait AT LEAST until you have the NOA1 from applying for the spouse visa, they will look at that as proof of you doing the legit way and less likely to deny you entry. As well as the typical "ties" evidence you show every time

Good luck.

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So, Bob whatever intent I dont have (or do have) that is my head only, but there is still that issue of not being admitted into the country at the first place as many people have said. I most certanly will have a job and the apartment and paperwork to prove it but I have no idea if that is going to be enough for the border people if I want to just visit my hubby.

Scribble, so the other Bob is correct in that many have fudged to system so to speak. In the end the choice is yours to make. What you need to understand is that if you enter on your valid B-2 Visa and "suddenly" decide that you just can't leave your hubby there is a chance of Adjustment being denied and you being handed a Misrepresentation charge. If this happens how bad is it? Well here you go:

1) Lifetime re-entry ban to the US that is not waiverable.

2) US Citizen spouse can be charged with felony, serve time in prison and thousands of dollars in fines.

So if the chance is just 0.5% (1 in 200) that you're the one who gets caught, can you live with the consequences?

On the other hand, you can visit your husband using you existing Visa but if questioned at POE you must be 100% honest and not lie about having a US Citizen Spouse. Don't offer any more information that they ask for though. Always bring strong proof of ties back to Russia like proof of apartment rental, employment or school expecting your return etc. Now there is always the chance that CBP will turn you away but being truthful is paramount.

Personally I'd never tell someone to risk doing something that has even a 0.05% chance of causing them & their loved ones that much grief.

Yet another time when I have to ask, "Why risk it?"

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** Just to be clear.

VJ does not advocate circumventing US Immigration Laws; in fact, it is a subject that is expressly forbidden.

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I'm not saying this has occurred in this thread/topic (because I'm not sure it has) but it is important to remind folks of our obligation to each other. Especially when the subject of 'intent' comes up.

I think we all want each other to have a quick and trouble-free journey to the US (or while in the US) but must stop short of giving legal advice or advice that could be misinterpreted.

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So, Bob whatever intent I dont have (or do have) that is my head only, but there is still that issue of not being admitted into the country at the first place as many people have said. I most certanly will have a job and the apartment and paperwork to prove it but I have no idea if that is going to be enough for the border people if I want to just visit my hubby.

Scribble,

if you have even the slightest doubts that what I outlined will either work for you or is the right thing for you to do, go play it safe exactly the way others on this board suggested by applying for a CR-1.

I can't guarantee that you won't be the one in a million person who will have trouble at the POE. I can only apply inductive reasoning in such a way that due to the fact that the sun has risen on the horizon every morning so far, it will rise again tomorrow. But who knows. Maybe it's going to be dark tomorrow, and the world as we know it has come to an end. There will always be variables when it comes to immigration + point of entry + plus immigration officer + plus rainy day, so there are no guarantees in life, ever.

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There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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I'm sort of in the same situation. My wife and I have two children together. Both were born here, but are obviously U.S. citizens just being my children (cost us a small fortune too). My wife and I travel back and forth across the border (she's Canadian) several times a year. We got married while on vacation in the Caribbean last year. On the way back, she got flagged as a possible overstay risk. In some ways, this actually works in our favor. Canadians driving across the border are usually not given I-94s, but now she's required. When we travel, we make sure to have EVERY piece of documentation we have - ties back home to Canada, NOAs, etc. She was last issued a 180 day I-94 in January.

Started K-3 not long ago. Filed I-130 and have received NOA1 and 2, so it has been forwarded to the NVC. Contacted several lawyers recently because the instructions for using the I-129F for a K-3 are as clear as cement. :huh::blink: - only one would talk to us without having $3000 or more in hand to hire them. He explained to me that all I need is an AOS at this point because she's here, and this is something he does often. I'm still a little leery of it, but I'm willing to bet he's not going to risk getting disbarred for the relatively small fee he charges. I'm going to do a little background checking on him before proceeding and ask for references.

I guess what I'm saying is have your husband contact a lawyer, explain the situation, and see what HE advises. Then make your decision based on his advice combined with what you've read here. Like I said, I'm still not sure what I'm going to do. Filing the I-129F isn't going to cost me any money either way.

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I find this discussion quite fascinating! I was asked my opinion on the following ---- My friend married a women who overstayed her tourist visa. She was actually married to someone from her country and divorced him while in the US. This couple was wondering if they should apply for the AOS and start the process since they were aware of her getting married while she was here on an overstayed tourist visa.

From reading all the comments here and from reading the facts on the Government Website, I was under the impression that they should have her go back to her home country and file for a K-3 visa. That is what I suggested.

They did not want to be apart and contacted an attorney who simply filed the AOS paperwork. They did the interview (without the attorney present) and were successful. The only "tough" question asked was how she was able to get a divorce if she was still in the US. She told them that her family filled the paperwork.

My thoughts... unfortunately, this is America and the Immigration Laws are all screwed up. I still think the correct process would be to file from the home country. My friends did the opposite and were very successful. So, your guess is as good as mine!

K-1 Process

NOA1

01/04/2008- Received date for NOA1 Receipt for I129F

NOA2

05/09/2008- Email that Approval Notice was sent for I129F

5/16/2008 - Received I-797C Notice of Action 2 Approved the petition and have sent the original visa petition to the Department of State National Visa Center (NVC). The NVC will within two to four weeks:

NOA3

6/2/2008 - Fiancee Received Packet 3

6/9/2008 - Fiancee sent packet 3 to Embassy

6/16/2008 - Fiancee finished Medical and police report. Police report to be mailed to her in 2 weeks.

6/30/2008 - Have police report

7/29/2008 - INTERVIEW DATE! SUCCESS!

7/31/2008 - Picked up Visa 2 days later from Embassy

8/17/08 - Arrive to USA! (Yes, we booked prior to the interview)

9/15/08 -- Social Security Card (Had to argue about card with K-1)

11/13/08 -- MARRIAGE!

11/15/08 -- File for AOS

2/2/09 --- Received Advance Parole

3/15/09 -- Received Work Card

4/3/09 -- Trip to Thailand... Married Again

5/11/09 -- Interview and approval of AOS (ship card in 3 weeks!)

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Have you heard the phrase: first, do no harm?

Well, the one thing that applies to overstay situations is DO NOT LEAVE THE USA. Anybody who overstayed and leaves triggers a ban, often 10 years. So if somebody asks for your advise in an immigration matter and you're not sure about it, tell 'em.

I hope they didn't leave the country. If she left, she won't be coming back until 2020, whereas filing for AOS here is a routine thing and all overstay is being forgiven.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Thailand
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Just a note to everyone talking about K-3. It's pretty much dead as of February 1, 2010. If NVC get's the I-129F and I-130 at the same time (which seems to happen in almost all cases now) NVC will close the I-129F. IR-1/CR-1 is the only option now.

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate : Bangkok, Thailand

Marriage : 2006-11-08

I-130 Sent : 2008-02-22

I-130 NOA1 : 2008-03-10

I-129F Sent : 2008-04-08

I-129F NOA1 : 2008-04-14

I-129F touched: 2008-05-06

I-130 touched: 2008-05-09

I-129F approved 2008-09-05

I-130 approved 2008-09-05

NVC received 2008-09-12

Pay I-864 2008-10-08

Pay IV bill 2008-10-08

Receive Instruction 2008-11-05

Case Complete 2008-11-18

Medical 2009-01-19/20 passed

Receive Pkt 4 2009-01-30

Interview 221g 2009-02-23

Second interview 2009-03-02 Approved

POE DFW 2009-03-07

Received SS card 2009-03-17

Received GC 2009-04-01

Done for 3 years or 10 years. Haven't decided yet.

(I'm going for the IR-1 and blowing off the K-3. Even if it takes an extra couple months, it's worth it to not have to deal with USCIS again)

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Note:

Please fill out I-130, wait 6 months for approval, then 3 more months for an interview. (Unless of course we've bombed your country into the stone age, then you qualify for expedited processing.)

Welcome to the USA!!!

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Thailand
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Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate : Bangkok, Thailand

Marriage : 2006-11-08

I-130 Sent : 2008-02-22

I-130 NOA1 : 2008-03-10

I-129F Sent : 2008-04-08

I-129F NOA1 : 2008-04-14

I-129F touched: 2008-05-06

I-130 touched: 2008-05-09

I-129F approved 2008-09-05

I-130 approved 2008-09-05

NVC received 2008-09-12

Pay I-864 2008-10-08

Pay IV bill 2008-10-08

Receive Instruction 2008-11-05

Case Complete 2008-11-18

Medical 2009-01-19/20 passed

Receive Pkt 4 2009-01-30

Interview 221g 2009-02-23

Second interview 2009-03-02 Approved

POE DFW 2009-03-07

Received SS card 2009-03-17

Received GC 2009-04-01

Done for 3 years or 10 years. Haven't decided yet.

(I'm going for the IR-1 and blowing off the K-3. Even if it takes an extra couple months, it's worth it to not have to deal with USCIS again)

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Note:

Please fill out I-130, wait 6 months for approval, then 3 more months for an interview. (Unless of course we've bombed your country into the stone age, then you qualify for expedited processing.)

Welcome to the USA!!!

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i overstayed for one year,my wife is a USC now we have been married for 4yrs with two kids(both USC).what are my chances for AOS.we are about to file?

If you came in on a visa (tourist, work, or student) you're good for AOS.

Only problems are for EWI, K3 and K1 visa, alongside crewman's visa - they can't adjust.

ROC 2009
Naturalization 2010

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