Immigration rally

[SMOKE 1,426]

God Bless the Arizona legislature. VJ was getting so boring.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Are you for real? Less than 9 ###### percent of gang bangers are Caucasians. If that doesn't indicate something to you then nothing logical ever will. Evidently one or two cultures endorse, yes endorse, gangs and violence more than the other; the other that just so happens to make up 75% of the population.

Doesn't take a statistician to work out the per capita of those stats now does it. Then again, like certain others on here, you do have the tenacity to ignore any and every actual numbers.

The problem with you BY is that you skim-read these things, pulling out the things that advance your own preconceived agenda and ignoring the rest.

The bolded proves that you haven't really read your own source material. As I said, not the full the picture.

Edited May 3, 2010 by Its a MADHOUSE

[The_Dude 1,142]

Paul, your most egregious offense whilst a member of this forum was your attempt to use "irregardless" and try to be taken seriously. Fail.

[Heracles 417]

The problem with you BY is that you skim-read these things, pulling out the things that advance your own preconceived agenda and ignoring the rest.

The bolded proves that you haven't really read your own source material. As I said, not the full the picture.

Straight from the government site.

The most recent figures provided by law enforcement are 49 percent Hispanic/Latino gang members, 35 percent African-American/black gang members, 9 percent white gang members, and 7 percent other race/ethnicity of gang members.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

You are not excused. There is no excuse for believing that it is normal or acceptable to execute those who enter the US without authority no matter how many times they do it.

You have your opinion, I have mine. It's really as simple as that.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The site you referenced also suggests that there are marked differences across geographic areas.

[Peikko 1,575]

Are you for real? Less than 9 ###### percent of gang bangers are Caucasians. If that doesn't indicate something to you then nothing logical ever will. Evidently one or two cultures endorse, yes endorse, gangs and violence more than the other; the other that just so happens to make up 75% of the population.

Doesn't take a statistician to work out the per capita of those stats now does it. Then again, like certain others on here, you do have the tenacity to ignore any and every actual numbers.

It does indicate something, just not what you seem to be determined to post it suggests. No culture within the USA endorses gangs and violence, period no matter what you think that your statistics mean, that's simply rubbish. Gangs may do that, but again, being a in a gang is not something that is determined by what ethnicity you belong to.

[Heracles 417]

The site you referenced also suggests that there are marked differences across geographic areas.

Yes Pike because there are oh so many gangs in rural America. Millions.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Paul, your most egregious offense whilst a member of this forum was your attempt to use "irregardless" and try to be taken seriously. Fail.

I'm amused by your fetish with stalking me, name calling, and obsessing over past things I've said rather than actually debating an issue. You might want to check into that. It's not healthy.

[The_Dude 1,142]

I'm amused by your fetish with stalking me, name calling, and obsessing over past things I've said rather than actually debating an issue. You might want to check into that. It's not healthy.

Your stupidity is quite amusing.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Yes Pike because there are oh so many gangs in rural America. Millions.

That's not really the point, BY. Clearly there are reasons for these sorts of differences, but you aren't interested in any of that are you.

[Peikko 1,575]

You have your opinion, I have mine. It's really as simple as that.

You asked to be excused for promoting vile opinions. I do not excuse you.

[Heracles 417]

It does indicate something, just not what you seem to be determined to post it suggests. No culture within the USA endorses gangs and violence, period no matter what you think that your statistics mean, that's simply rubbish. Gangs may do that, but again, being a in a gang is not something that is determined by what ethnicity you belong to.

You guys really do have your head in the sand. After five years, you still don't get culture. Much like Steven who attempts to disingenuously use NAZI and racism allegations to justify illegal aliens, you do the exact same regarding gangs and crime. You have used the socioeconomics argument before, though I am still waiting for you to illustrate (demonstrate) that those in similar socioeconomics abroad commit similar levels of crimes. Unlike Paul here who is new, I know that you guys will criticize yet never ever produce anything of your own.

[Peikko 1,575]

You guys really do have your head in the sand. After five years, you still don't get culture. Much like Steven who attempts to disingenuously use NAZI and racism allegations to justify illegal aliens, you do the exact same regarding gangs and crime. You have used the socioeconomics argument before, though I am still waiting for you to illustrate (demonstrate) that those in similar socioeconomics abroad commit similar levels of crimes. Unlike Paul here who is new, I know that you guys will criticize yet never ever produce anything of your own.

You simply don't understand the statistics you fling around willy nilly. Anyway, enough of this circling the wagons. Things to do.

[Heracles 417]

That's not really the point, BY. Clearly there are reasons for these sorts of differences, but you aren't interested in any of that are you.

Now you are getting ridiculous. The majority of gangs are around cities, not in rural Kansas. Their highest percentage is in rural counties - at a whopping 16%.

Nevertheless, lets look at the picture or rural versus city.

You simply don't understand the statistics you fling around willy nilly. Anyway, enough of this circling the wagons. Things to do.

Cleo if there is anyone who doesn't understand or want to understand, you are a gold medalist. Time and time again you have ignored every and any stats. Since I "simply don't understand the statistics", why don't you work out the per capita of these gangs based on demographics?

Edited May 3, 2010 by Booyah!