Is it possible to cancel SSN application and reapply?

[randye80 24]

My wife received her EAD right after the 4th of July and we rushed down to the SSA office to apply for card.

Apparently we got there before our USCIS information was updated, because the woman said it needed to be verified manually. Also, since my wife's birth certificate is in Russian, and because SSA won't accept a notarized translation, she made a photocopy, to be sent to an SSA translator. Where is would be a really high priority, I'm sure.

I have since read in these forums and on the SSA website that the birth certificate is not the only acceptable evidence of age. I also read that if the applicant NEEDS a social security card (I don't know who makes the judgement of need, anyone know?), they can accept, for example, the EAD as evidence of age and identity.

Further, we just received the green card yesterday

So our question is, since we are in administrative limbo on the previous application, and since we have plenty of documentation to support our application, is there a way to cancel our pending application, and start over again?

And BTW, how soon could we expect our green card to show up in the database, so that we avoid the manual verification process?

Thank you very much,

Randy and Nina

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Calling mdyoung.

(though my opinion is that the wheels are in motion and not going to be stopped)

[CanadaGirl 0]

Try going back to the social security office with all your new stuff and they might speed things along for you.

Sorry I can't help any more and good luck

[I'm Gone 60]

Apparently we got there before our USCIS information was updated, because the woman said it needed to be verified manually. Also, since my wife's birth certificate is in Russian, and because SSA won't accept a notarized translation, she made a photocopy, to be sent to an SSA translator. Where is would be a really high priority, I'm sure.

I have since read in these forums and on the SSA website that the birth certificate is not the only acceptable evidence of age. I also read that if the applicant NEEDS a social security card (I don't know who makes the judgement of need, anyone know?), they can accept, for example, the EAD as evidence of age and identity.

Further, we just received the green card yesterday

So our question is, since we are in administrative limbo on the previous application, and since we have plenty of documentation to support our application, is there a way to cancel our pending application, and start over again?

And BTW, how soon could we expect our green card to show up in the database, so that we avoid the manual verification process?

Sure you can cancel the application. What I would say is you have to move because of your job and she will reapply when you get settled in your new place in Seattle. That sound less like you are trying to pull something.

SSA doesn't have anyone that translates Russian, so it will go to contractor and figure 30 to 45 days.

Even if she uses the I-551 card as proof of idenity and work authorization. She still needs another document for proof of age and then you are back to the birth certificate for proof of age. Plus the I-551 status still needs to be verified and no gaurentee that it will verify through SAVE.

About the only plus I can see with cancelling the current application and reapplying with the I-551 card is she should get an unrestricted SSN card.

[someitguy 0]

We're still waiting on the ss card.

[I'm Gone 60]

We're still waiting on the ss card.

So have you done anything to follow up?

[randye80 24]

Sure you can cancel the application. What I would say is you have to move because of your job and she will reapply when you get settled in your new place in Seattle. That sound less like you are trying to pull something.

SSA doesn't have anyone that translates Russian, so it will go to contractor and figure 30 to 45 days.

Even if she uses the I-551 card as proof of idenity and work authorization. She still needs another document for proof of age and then you are back to the birth certificate for proof of age. Plus the I-551 status still needs to be verified and no gaurentee that it will verify through SAVE.

About the only plus I can see with cancelling the current application and reapplying with the I-551 card is she should get an unrestricted SSN card.

Thanks for the reply mdyoung.

The USCIS interviewer removed and kept our I-94, but he did not take the I-765 (EAD). Would this card be an additional proof of age, or will it show up as invalid (because of the newer I-551)?

How long does it typically take for a new gc to get into the SAVE system anyway?

Thanks,

Randy

[I'm Gone 60]

The USCIS interviewer removed and kept our I-94, but he did not take the I-765 (EAD). Would this card be an additional proof of age, or will it show up as invalid (because of the newer I-551)?

I thought she did use her I-766 (EAD) when she applied. No matter which immigration document she uses, that will be her proof of idenity and work authorization and she needs another document for age.

“If the applicant has no immediate need for the SSN and the translation can be done promptly or the foreign language document is the only evidence available; have the document translated by an authorized translator and use the document as evidence.”

“If the applicant has a pressing need for an SSN, and evidence other than the foreign language document is available; request other evidence and process the application without the foreign language document.”

RM 00203.040 Reviewing SSN Evidence:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203040#B3

GN 00301.340 Authorized Translators Defined:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0200301340

If she can come up with a story of immediate need that they will buy, her passport can be used as proof of age.

https://s044a90.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203110

RM 00203.110 Evidence of Age for an SSN Card

3. Foreign-Born Applicant Applies for an Original SSN Card or to Change the DOB on the Numident Record

If a foreign-born person has the foreign birth certificate (BC) in his/her possession or can readily obtain (i.e., within 10 business days) a properly certified copy, ask him/her to submit it. Be aware that if the person is foreign-born, a BC may not exist, may not have been recorded shortly after birth, or the probative value of the document may not be high. In these situations, accept alternative evidence of age in order of probative value. The alternative evidence of age may be less than a year old (e.g., a DHS document). If the foreign BC is in a foreign language, follow the instructions in RM 00203.040B.3. to determine whether to ask for the foreign BC and whether to have it translated

3. Level Three - Other Alternative Evidence of Age

-- Foreign passport

https://s044a90.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203200

RM 00203.200 Evidence of Identity for an SSN Card

The applicant must submit the document with the highest probative value when it is available.

“Available” means the document exists and the applicant can access or obtain it within 10 business days.

6. Documents for Adult Age 18 and Older

ALIEN: Adult Age 18 and older

1. Primary Evidence

Request a current U.S. immigration document and an unexpired foreign passport.

-- Form I-551, Permanent Resident Card (includes temporary I-551 stamp/machine readable immigrant visa (MRIV) in combination with an unexpired foreign passport when the I-551 Permanent Resident Card has not yet been issued)

-- Form I-94, Arrival/departure Record in combination with an unexpired foreign passport

-- Form I-766, Employment Authorization card

-- Form I-688B, Employment Authorization card

J. Procedure - Verifying Specific Kinds of Identity Documents

NOTE: The U.S. immigration stamp placed in the foreign passport and/or a U.S. immigration document attached to a foreign passport are separate documents. For example, an I-551 stamp or a U.S. immigration stamp in the applicant’s foreign passport and the foreign passport are two separate documents. Likewise, a Form I-94 stapled in a foreign passport and the foreign passport are two separate documents; as are a machine readable immigrant visa (MRIV) issued by the U.S. Department of State and placed in the foreign passport.

Edited August 7, 2006 by mdyoung