Palin: America is a Christian nation

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Oh, this is good.

In 1825, John Quincy Adams took the presidential oath using a law volume instead of a Bible, and in 1853, Franklin Pierce affirmed the oath rather than swearing it ... Theodore Roosevelt used no Bible in taking his first oath of office in 1901.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/08/AR2006120801482.html

[rsn 135]

As it should be. People are getting more logical and thinking through the absurd belief that there is a flying spaghetti monster watching over the human species that it created a few thousand years ago. The first man was not Adam. The first woman was not Eve. There were no talking snakes and talking bushes. There was no old guy named Moses that lived to be 500 and waved his cane and magically parted the sea. There was no great flood or great ark. There was no man named Sampson who was super strong with long hair and super frail with short hair. There was no guy named Jonah who lived inside a whale for a day and came back out the next day unscathed. There is no lala land (heaven) that people go to when they die. You don't receive a punishment of feeling like your entire body is engulfed in flames for AN ETERNITY because you do not believe in the flying spaghetti monster!!!!

I feel like the above explanation should be given to 5-year olds but as hilarious as it is, there are millions of brainwashed adults out there, not sure why!

It's actually really hard to see the light when you were born and raised in a religious household because you were brainwashed into believing in illogical fairy tales and spaghetti monsters since birth. All the silly religions are NO DIFFERENT from greek mythology!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is a bunch of myths, rumors, lies, and illogical nonsense!!!!

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[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

It is a bunch of myths, rumors, lies, and illogical nonsense!!!!

[Heracles 417]

all the money in my pocket reads 'in god we trust'. most monuments in DC have some religous saying on them. the pledge of allegiance contain 'one nation under god', when you're in court, you take an oath w/ a book. the president, supreme court judges, senate & congress all take an oth w/ the same book. that book is the bible.

so, i'd say she is right. the US is a cristian nation w/ tollerance & acceptance for different religous views.

Bingo!

the 'official' BS of "in god we trust" and "one nation under god" did not come to light until the 1950's for those afraid of the commies and that they would eliminate Christianity.

In all honesty it's unconstitutional by any and every means and should be removed from all legal documents and no one should ever have to place their hand on the bible to give testimony.

What about the separation of church and state? I can't exactly find that in the Constitution anywhere.

[rsn 135]

What about the separation of church and state? I can't exactly find that in the Constitution anywhere.

Guess you didn't even finish reading the 1st amendment.

[chri'stina 190]

"It is a bunch of myths, rumors, lies, and illogical nonsense!!!!"

Nuh-uh. You're the one lying, dude!

[Heracles 417]

As it should be. People are getting more logical and thinking through the absurd belief that there is a flying spaghetti monster watching over the human species that it created a few thousand years ago. The first man was not Adam. The first woman was not Eve. There were no talking snakes and talking bushes. There was no old guy named Moses that lived to be 500 and waved his cane and magically parted the sea. There was no great flood or great ark. There was no man named Sampson who was super strong with long hair and super frail with short hair. There was no guy named Jonah who lived inside a whale for a day and came back out the next day unscathed. There is no lala land (heaven) that people go to when they die. You don't receive a punishment of feeling like your entire body is engulfed in flames for AN ETERNITY because you do not believe in the flying spaghetti monster!!!!

I feel like the above explanation should be given to 5-year olds but as hilarious as it is, there are millions of brainwashed adults out there, not sure why!

It's actually really hard to see the light when you were born and raised in a religious household because you were brainwashed into believing in illogical fairy tales and spaghetti monsters since birth. All the silly religions are NO DIFFERENT from greek mythology!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is a bunch of myths, rumors, lies, and illogical nonsense!!!!

Perhaps all of archaeological artifacts are fabricated too? though, you'd have to travel outside Michigan to see them. Nevertheless, as an engineer I see proof of at all around me. It has taken us thousand of years to understand the most simplest of things, with infinitely more that is still unknown. The complexity of the world, of nature, of the human body is truly fascinating. Yet apparently this unfathomable complexity all come along from nothing, from trial and error; better yet from simple chance.

Religion is also a lot more than just creation. It also never seizes to amaze me of the number of critics who hate it but have never actually picked up a bible.

[Heracles 417]

Guess you didn't even finish reading the 1st amendment.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Yep, still cannot find separation of church and state. However, what I do see is something that is practiced in pretty-much every other first world country. That is, the government not being able in forcibly impose one belief or push one denomination. As a result, technically forcing and demanding atheism is the promotion of a belief. Religious classes were offered in our schools and students had the choice whether to attend or not. That is religious freedom. Demanding no religion is not freedom of religion, it's pushing one belief actually.

This literal interpretation, which numerous other nations have based their own off, means the government elected by the people and for the people has no problem celebrating with their constituents and citizens.

Edited April 27, 2010 by Booyah!

[Peikko 1,575]

Perhaps all of archaeological artifacts are fabricated too? though, you'd have to travel outside Michigan to see them. Nevertheless, as an engineer I see proof of at all around me. It has taken us thousand of years to understand the most simplest of things, with infinitely more that is still unknown. The complexity of the world, of nature, of the human body is truly fascinating. Yet apparently this unfathomable complexity all come along from nothing, from trial and error; better yet from simple chance.

Religion is also a lot more than just creation. It also never seizes to amaze me of the number of critics who hate it but have never actually picked up a bible.

You look at it form the point of view of what are the chances of creating what exists now again because you are in the here and now and have no imagination of the length of the process that led to this moment and from that perspective, it is inevitable that you believe it is not possible without some guiding force or intervention - imagining that the chance of it happening as a result of an infinite number of random actions is also not actually accurate. The random actions are governed by very specific laws of nature. The fact is that rock can not become gold (though many tried ). That means that only certain outcomes are possible, not an exponentially infinite number. We are what we are because we could not be anything else.

Those who are not religious are perfectly able to create an ethical and moral compass that allows them to act in ways that are compassionate, caring and mutually beneficial.

Edited April 27, 2010 by Madame Cleo

[SMOKE 1,426]

Oh, this is good.

In 1825, John Quincy Adams took the presidential oath using a law volume instead of a Bible, and in 1853, Franklin Pierce affirmed the oath rather than swearing it ... Theodore Roosevelt used no Bible in taking his first oath of office in 1901.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/08/AR2006120801482.html

i'm so proud of you. you did research it & didn't rely on the peterpufferington post or some other douchecrat america hating site. now do something worth doing. make us up a speadsheet showing what books have been used most often.

Edited April 27, 2010 by SMOKE

[rsn 135]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Yep, still cannot find separation of church and state. However, what I do see is something that is practiced in pretty-much every other first world country. That is, the government not being able in forcibly impose one belief or push one denomination. As a result, technically forcing and demanding atheism is the promotion of a belief.

This literal interpretation, which numerous other nations have based their own off, means the government elected by the people and for the people has no problem celebrating with their constituents and citizens.

Well Phil, you've put me in a difficult position now. Who should I believe: a loudmouth from Australia who does nothing but badmouth the U.S., or the founding fathers of this country, specifically Thomas Jefferson, who wrote that the 1st amendment addressed separation of church and state? Hmm, tough decision for me...

[Heracles 417]

Well Phil, you've put me in a difficult position now. Who should I believe: a loudmouth from Australia who does nothing but badmouth the U.S., or the founding fathers of this country, specifically Thomas Jefferson, who wrote that the 1st amendment addressed separation of church and state? Hmm, tough decision for me...

I'd target you but it's against the TOS.

Some of you have take every single amendment out of context and now expect me to take your word for it.

Still waiting to know where the term is guitar boy..

[rsn 135]

I'd target you but it's against the TOS.

Some of you have take every single amendment out of context and now expect me to take your word for it.

Still waiting to know where the term is guitar boy..

Target me all you want, I can take it and I won't rat you out to the mods.

How is anything I said taking the amendment "out of context"? Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptists in 1802 and said, among other things: "...I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State." Jefferson was also a believer in God. Every single word does not need to be specifically mentioned in the constitution itself to make it apply.

Edited April 27, 2010 by rsn

[chri'stina 190]

No one ever taught me about the spaghetti monster when I was growing up, I feel deprived in my faith.

[rsn 135]

No one ever taught me about the spaghetti monster when I was growing up, I feel deprived in my faith.

You too can become a pastafarian.