Arizonans and The Nation Torn On Immigration Bill

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

You can be detained until you can prove who you are...

Only as a suspect in crime.

[Peikko 1,575]

This law doesn't give the police the right to arrest her for not having her green card.........unless, and someone tell me, does not having your green card on your person at all times equal a public offense that is grounds for removal from the country?

That would be quite ridiculous - the police have better things to do with their time than arrest everyone who fail to carry their papers around with them at all times. I am sure that the only time these things are actually demanded are when someone has broken a serious criminal law, not speeding or some other petty offense that most people on this very message board consider as measures to create city income and not actually worth adhering to.

[Kevin and 10]

You guys are talking like it's one major helluva inconvenience to carry a damn piece of paper in your wallet.

If you're legal, then you should have no problem proving it. Moving on.

So would you be opposed to ID checkpoints along the interstates or highways?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

... speeding or some other petty offense that most people on this very message board consider as measures to create city income and not actually worth adhering to.

Speeding laws are measures to generate city income. Don't be naive.

[PhiLandShiR 18]

This law doesn't give the police the right to arrest her for not having her green card.........unless, and someone tell me, does not having your green card on your person at all times equal a public offense that is grounds for removal from the country?

This law does not need to. Federal law already grants that right. Read the back of your Green Card. Failure to carry it can result in fines and possible revocation with deportation as a result.

[SMOKE 1,426]

Only as a suspect in crime.

if asked & you don't produce ID. they may think you have a 'reason' not to provide ID. wouldn't it be a lot less of a hasle to just carry the damn ID?

[Peikko 1,575]

Speeding laws are measures to generate city income. Don't be naive.

No, the laws have a very serious and sensible purpose, particularly in densely populated areas - but even on highways the speed limits are designed to limit fatalities and serious injueries when there are accidents. Whether fines are the best measure to ensure the laws are adhered to is a separate issue.

Edited April 26, 2010 by Madame Cleo

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Only as a suspect in crime.

don't produce ID & other identification and see how far that gets you on a traffic stop.

[PhiLandShiR 18]

That would be quite ridiculous - the police have better things to do with their time than arrest everyone who fail to carry their papers around with them at all times. I am sure that the only time these things are actually demanded are when someone has broken a serious criminal law, not speeding or some other petty offense that most people on this very message board consider as measures to create city income and not actually worth adhering to.

I suggest you read the card. Its not ridiculous and can get your sorry A$$ thrown out of the country.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

No, the laws have a very serious and sensible purpose, particularly in densely populated areas - but even on highways the speed limits are designed to limit fatalities and serious injueries when there are accidents. Whether fines are the best measure to ensure the laws are adhered to is a separate issue.

How someone got to be as old as you and still be so naive, is beyond me.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

This law does not need to. Federal law already grants that right. Read the back of your Green Card. Failure to carry it can result in fines and possible revocation with deportation as a result.

** the law! lefties need votes this november!

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

if asked & you don't produce ID. they may think you have a 'reason' not to provide ID. wouldn't it be a lot less of a hasle to just carry the damn ID?

Well if you say " I'm John Smoke and I live at 33 Pear St. I don't have ID on me at the moment." then no.

If you say" I'm John Doe I'm not telling you where I live because I just robbed that store" then yes.

[PhiLandShiR 18]

No, the laws have a very serious and sensible purpose, particularly in densely populated areas - but even on highways the speed limits are designed to limit fatalities and serious injueries when there are accidents. Whether fines are the best measure to ensure the laws are adhered to is a separate issue.

Now thats the biggest load of bull...... droppings ... I ever heard of.

Many speeding laws are specificlly for generating income for the small town. Maybe you need to wake up and look around you once in a while....

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

I suggest you read the card. Its not ridiculous and can get your sorry A$$ thrown out of the country.

I'm pretty sure first offense is a fine.

[Ali G. 37]

If US citizens wish to take the jobs that currently are being done by illegals, I'm all for it. If there is a legal path then the wages that are currently paid to illegals would in fact have to meet state legal requirements - as well as working conditions and the rest and those who currently rely on illegal aliens because they can't be arsed to pay better will be forced to do so or go out of business, thus making those jobs more accessible to a USC who is not going to take a job that is not paying legal minimum wages or is unsafe.

Unfortunately the last mass-scale amnesty proved otherwise - an epic failure. Those given amnesty were fired and replaced with the new wave of illegals. Hence, welcome to the country's predicament in 2010.

It's no different to what has happened in the UK. British plumbers, for example, had to compete with those from Poland who would do the work at half the price or less. Bye bye blue-collar market in the UK.