RFE=Start Over your Days

[kitkat1 5]

Sorry man, my NOA2 also expires on 08/06. VSC had one recalled case approved on VJ this week according to our chart. Pitiful, tequila, yeah, I'm waiting 'til after 5. I'm pretty angry also. Feel for you kitkat1, it looks like our NOA1 dates are about the same. Praying, offering understanding words is just not enough, sorry guys.

Lewis, I feel for you and Sleepless - I think it's much worse to be so close you can taste it and then go through this #######. At least you won't have to wait for an appointment date in Ciudad Juarez - that's about the only saving grace here . . .

[sleepless in OR 2]

Sorry man, my NOA2 also expires on 08/06. VSC had one recalled case approved on VJ this week according to our chart. Pitiful, tequila, yeah, I'm waiting 'til after 5. I'm pretty angry also. Feel for you kitkat1, it looks like our NOA1 dates are about the same. Praying, offering understanding words is just not enough, sorry guys.

Lewis, I feel for you and Sleepless - I think it's much worse to be so close you can taste it and then go through this #######. At least you won't have to wait for an appointment date in Ciudad Juarez - that's about the only saving grace here . . .

Yeah, brings to mind what my Mom used to say about how you needed some adversity in your life to build your character. Or as my kids now like to quote Beavis & Butthead, "you gotta have stuff that sucks to have stuff that's cool". All I know is, this has been one h*ll of a character building exercise. Too bad we don't all live in the same neighborhood, would be nice to cry on each others' shoulders for awhile.

Lewis, my NOA2 expired July 31. I emailed CSC and NVC about that, got reponses from each telling me to contact the other#$*@(?(*&! With my luck, the next email I get will be a notice to inform me me petition has expired, go back to square one. Actually, from the looks of all the recent approvals, that would probably be better. I also tried calling the CSC emergency number that a VJ'r PM'd to me yesterday, but it is set up with a recording that asks you to leave a message as to the nature of your emergency and says they will get back to you. I called yesterday, and today. Apparently my pitiful story has not sufficiently impressed them with whatever it takes to be considered an emergency, as no one has called me back. I wonder what kind of emergency would get their attention? Any ideas?

[William33 110]

So if you get a second helping of RFE, does that put you to the back of the line, again?

If that happens, I will serve that head to you on a platter. Silver or gold?

Well we've gone back and forth on this one already. They are no longer stating approximate processing times. Isn't that convenient? And it's rather ridiculous for them to refer to the processing date in their email when they don't show any processing dates anymore. Ah, such is the stupidity of CSC.

The thing they SHOULD have done was to send out RFEs based on NOA1 date. That would have been the equitable and correct way to handle it. After they sent all the March NOA1 date RFEs, they could have moved on and sent out the next batch a few weeks later. If someone in the March group was out of the country or unable to return the RFE, they would not have had to "hold" any other petitions that were ready for approval and had the returned RFE. But sending out RFEs randomnly with no regard whatsoever for original NOA1 dates is where they f*cked up royally.

I personally would like the head of the director of CSC on a platter . . .

[TucsonBill 0]

I have been looking over alot of timelines, and 'generally' what I see is that the NOA2 comes pretty quickly, (relatively), after the RFE.

Could you have maybe pi**ed off the person you spoke to so that she told you your file was going to the bottom of the pile?

I hope I don't have to call, but if I do, its generally a good idea to keep your cool, cause they got ya by the...

Bill

[Lewis 0]

Sorry man, my NOA2 also expires on 08/06. VSC had one recalled case approved on VJ this week according to our chart. Pitiful, tequila, yeah, I'm waiting 'til after 5. I'm pretty angry also. Feel for you kitkat1, it looks like our NOA1 dates are about the same. Praying, offering understanding words is just not enough, sorry guys.

Lewis, I feel for you and Sleepless - I think it's much worse to be so close you can taste it and then go through this #######. At least you won't have to wait for an appointment date in Ciudad Juarez - that's about the only saving grace here . . .

Yeah, brings to mind what my Mom used to say about how you needed some adversity in your life to build your character. Or as my kids now like to quote Beavis & Butthead, "you gotta have stuff that sucks to have stuff that's cool". All I know is, this has been one h*ll of a character building exercise. Too bad we don't all live in the same neighborhood, would be nice to cry on each others' shoulders for awhile.

Lewis, my NOA2 expired July 31. I emailed CSC and NVC about that, got reponses from each telling me to contact the other#$*@(?(*&! With my luck, the next email I get will be a notice to inform me me petition has expired, go back to square one. Actually, from the looks of all the recent approvals, that would probably be better. I also tried calling the CSC emergency number that a VJ'r PM'd to me yesterday, but it is set up with a recording that asks you to leave a message as to the nature of your emergency and says they will get back to you. I called yesterday, and today. Apparently my pitiful story has not sufficiently impressed them with whatever it takes to be considered an emergency, as no one has called me back. I wonder what kind of emergency would get their attention? Any ideas?

First of all, start with some fresh lime juice and good quality agave tequila....

Well, my senator's office and the USCIS (asked a supervisor) said the petition technically does not expire really, it is in a kind of limbo, it was never really approved correctly so those dates are considered irrelevant now. When it is "reaffirmed" it will have a new expiration date. I'm not too concerned about that aspect. All of the reaffirmed cases back this up because all of them have new expiration dates.

I'm more concerned about getting it reaffirmed and when it will occur. You are CSC which means they may do things differently with yours, who knows? The problem is we still have no clear patterns on these recalled cases at either SC. The RFE says at least 14 days for processing with a max of 60 ouch! I think I'm at about 16 days now.

This is a list of all I have done and I'm not even sure any of it had an effect:

Contacted senators and representative and had everyone investigate my case

Submitted expedite request- rejected

Called USCIS- a joke at this point really, we know more than they do

Talked to my lawyer- he says be patient

I'm considering drafting a new letter that shows significant dates in the process and that it has exceeded the normal processing time. I think that could be a key to getting some results, maybe not. I'm just not sure who to send it to yet. Let's keep in contact about stuff!

Go light on the lime juice!

Sorry man, my NOA2 also expires on 08/06. VSC had one recalled case approved on VJ this week according to our chart. Pitiful, tequila, yeah, I'm waiting 'til after 5. I'm pretty angry also. Feel for you kitkat1, it looks like our NOA1 dates are about the same. Praying, offering understanding words is just not enough, sorry guys.

Lewis, I feel for you and Sleepless - I think it's much worse to be so close you can taste it and then go through this #######. At least you won't have to wait for an appointment date in Ciudad Juarez - that's about the only saving grace here . . .

Yeah, that's funny I was thinking the same for you. We are fortunate to go through Mexico.

[kitkat1 5]

I have been looking over alot of timelines, and 'generally' what I see is that the NOA2 comes pretty quickly, (relatively), after the RFE.

Could you have maybe pi**ed off the person you spoke to so that she told you your file was going to the bottom of the pile?

I hope I don't have to call, but if I do, its generally a good idea to keep your cool, cause they got ya by the...

Bill

Bill, since you are just starting out, here's a useful thing for you to know. It is not possible for a USCIS operator/representative/person who answers the phone to do anything with a file or in any way have any effect on the processing of a case. They have no power, not to mention no information really.

If, down the road, you need assistance with your case or answers to questions, don't bother calling CSC or sending an email (seems they have stopped accepting email in the past few days which is of no difference anyway because the one lone idiot who answered them was never able to provide any information or answers anway). If you are at the appropriate point i.e. 120 days of waiting and no information from CSC, best to contact your senator's office by downloading their privacy form and faxing it to them (not email - you'll just get a response saying "thanks for supporting my position on immigration reform" about 2 months later).

Hopefully you won't need any help and will have normal, uneventful processing.

Almost tequila time!!!!!!!!!!!

[TucsonBill 0]

Lewis,

I was just thinking, if I'm the guy at USCIS answering the phone, and someone calls me up all irate and getting on my case, I might politely tell him his file has been moved back to the bottom of the stack, (whether its true or not - lol)

Bill

[sleepless in OR 2]

I have been looking over alot of timelines, and 'generally' what I see is that the NOA2 comes pretty quickly, (relatively), after the RFE.

Could you have maybe pi**ed off the person you spoke to so that she told you your file was going to the bottom of the pile?

I hope I don't have to call, but if I do, its generally a good idea to keep your cool, cause they got ya by the...

Bill

Bill, since you are just starting out, here's a useful thing for you to know. It is not possible for a USCIS operator/representative/person who answers the phone to do anything with a file or in any way have any effect on the processing of a case. They have no power, not to mention no information really.

If, down the road, you need assistance with your case or answers to questions, don't bother calling CSC or sending an email (seems they have stopped accepting email in the past few days which is of no difference anyway because the one lone idiot who answered them was never able to provide any information or answers anway). If you are at the appropriate point i.e. 120 days of waiting and no information from CSC, best to contact your senator's office by downloading their privacy form and faxing it to them (not email - you'll just get a response saying "thanks for supporting my position on immigration reform" about 2 months later).

Hopefully you won't need any help and will have normal, uneventful processing.

Almost tequila time!!!!!!!!!!!

One tequila, tWo teqilA, tHreE TeQUeElAAA, FLOOR!!!!!

[David and Marina 0]

Actually when I called the lady was very nice, albeit she was very unhelpful in answering my questions.

With any Customer Service keep in mind that agents have little if no power to do anything anywhere, whether it is USCIS or eBay.

So from what I posted originally and from what I read no one is being rude with USCIS, but we are all sitting here without any help from anyone. Personally I find that REALLY amazing since immigration reform is a large topic these days and they are talking about trying to get 12-15 million people somehow into a legal status. You would think the Senators would have more of an open ear.

[snz1802 0]

I know how you guys are feeling, it sux to have to wait, but some of you that are having to wait longer than others, may be in "security checks" that is what happened to me. I watched everyone that applied after me get approved and waited and waited and waited somemore...and it was because of the damn security checks.

[sleepless in OR 2]

I know how you guys are feeling, it sux to have to wait, but some of you that are having to wait longer than others, may be in "security checks" that is what happened to me. I watched everyone that applied after me get approved and waited and waited and waited somemore...and it was because of the damn security checks.

So, did anyone actually tell you you were in security checks? How does one know if that truly is what's going on?

[MN&UK 0]

yes, it is basically being told "tough luck buddy". That is what they are doing, processing by RFE date - but the processing is going quickly. They are up to July 10 or so now....

Of course, there are still people with earlier RFE dates who have heard nothing, and some people who filed a long time ago who haven't even received their RFE yet, and I just can't fathom that.

My receipt date was 7/11 and I got approved yesterday and received my approval email today, so they are probably up to 7/13 by now.

[Lewis 0]

Lewis,

I was just thinking, if I'm the guy at USCIS answering the phone, and someone calls me up all irate and getting on my case, I might politely tell him his file has been moved back to the bottom of the stack, (whether its true or not - lol)

Bill

First of all, how do you know when I called I was irate, that statement itself is rude and presumptuous. I was not rude, irate or disrespectful in any way to the USCIS. I never am when I am on the phone, only in the case of salespeople. Second of all, what's up with the paranoia? Don't you ever wonder about your case or attempt to find out info by yourself or do you wait to read all the info here because you are worried about evil people in the government conspiring against you?

You obviously have no clue when it comes to understanding what I am going through.

Why are you discouraging us from trying to find out info about our cases is the real question.

Now it really is tequila time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited August 4, 2006 by Lewis

[MN&UK 0]

We feel the same over here at VSC. All March people have been totally disregarded besides a lucky few. This week on VJ VSC has almost seen no action whatsoever except for a small amount of cases. It's managment from top down, it's a joke and bad example of governemental inefficiency throughout the USCIS.

Yes, I noticed Vermont was quiet. Maybe they took the signature CSC training, 'How to be less efficient and accomodating.'

The thing they SHOULD have done was to send out RFEs based on NOA1 date. That would have been the equitable and correct way to handle it. After they sent all the March NOA1 date RFEs, they could have moved on and sent out the next batch a few weeks later. If someone in the March group was out of the country or unable to return the RFE, they would not have had to "hold" any other petitions that were ready for approval and had the returned RFE. But sending out RFEs randomnly with no regard whatsoever for original NOA1 dates is where they f*cked up royally.

Yep. I know it is crazy for me to harbour such resentment over this, especially since I am not even a March NOA1, but the randomness of the RFE mailing is really stuck in my craw.

Yes, it sucks, they make it that way. You should get approved soon though. Your RFE receipt was before mine. I bet Betty caseworker took Friday off to visit her aunt on the Coast. She will be back in the office on Monday. Soon, I am telling you, very, very soon.

[sleepless in OR 2]

yes, it is basically being told "tough luck buddy". That is what they are doing, processing by RFE date - but the processing is going quickly. They are up to July 10 or so now....

Of course, there are still people with earlier RFE dates who have heard nothing, and some people who filed a long time ago who haven't even received their RFE yet, and I just can't fathom that.

My receipt date was 7/11 and I got approved yesterday and received my approval email today, so they are probably up to 7/13 by now.

Apparently they missed a few, mine for example, Gary C's for another, that have an RFE receipt date of July 11 or earlier.