US Government & FDA To Dictate What You Can Eat!

[PhiLandShiR 18]

Absolutely.

Why be fussy? support legalization for it all!! phenobarbital, heron, Morphine, all the hallucinogens....

get them all!!!

[Peikko 1,575]

I would love to cull the stupid, but the bastards just wouldn't die. They get fatter

and fatter and what's worse, they breed, producing even stupider offspring.

Perhaps we can lobby to increase the salt in processed food and see what it takes kill them quicker?

All this legalization of any and all drugs should help to, and while we are about it, why do we bother to allow doctors to be the only ones to write prescriptions for certain drugs? In fact, why have prescriptions at all? Why don't we just let everyone decide for themselves what drugs they need and let them buy them over the counter at their local pharmacy?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I already eat a low salt content in foods and it's a nice treat to eat 'saltier' foods from time to time. Yes, there is an inherent flavor differencce no matter how you put it. I can also tell foods that are extremely over salted. I have a very sensitive palette that breaks things down pretty easily, so certain things will bother me...

If you eat a lot of processed foods from cans, jars etc - you cannot claim to eat a low-sodium diet. Whatever you might want to believe, it just isn't the case. Even the labels that say "low-sodium" aren't anything of the kind - from what I've seen food manufacturers can claim that a product has "low sodium" so long as it contains less salt than the regular version (even if it is only say, 50mg less per serving). That said, anything above 200mg per serving is considered high.

And that's not taking into account hidden salt - things that don't taste salty (bread and breakfast cereals for example) which actually contain quite high levels.

The only way (literally the only way) to control the amount of salt in your diet is to prepare everything you eat from fresh ingredients.

Perhaps we can lobby to increase the salt in processed food and see what it takes kill them quicker?

All this legalization of any and all drugs should help to, and while we are about it, why do we bother to allow doctors to be the only ones to write prescriptions for certain drugs? In fact, why have prescriptions at all? Why don't we just let everyone decide for themselves what drugs they need and let them buy them over the counter at their local pharmacy?

I thought we already did - all those "ask your doctor about..." drug ads.

[Peikko 1,575]

If you eat a lot of processed foods from cans, jars etc - you cannot claim to eat a low-sodium diet. Whatever you might want to believe, it just isn't the case. Even the labels that say "low-sodium" aren't anything of the kind - from what I've seen food manufacturers can claim that a product has "low sodium" so long as it contains less salt than the regular version (even if it is only say, 50mg less per serving). That said, anything above 200mg per serving is considered high.

And that's not taking into account hidden salt - things that don't taste salty (bread and breakfast cereals for example) which actually contain quite high levels.

The only way (literally the only way) to control the amount of salt in your diet is to prepare everything you eat from fresh ingredients.

I thought we already did - all those "ask your doctor about..." drug ads.

Not to mention those cowboy Doctors who 'sell' their pain/anti anxiety medication to whoever wants it, no questions asked, but it's not 'legal' and drugs are fda regulated which is obviously why the current drugs are not very good and cause side effects. If we abolished all the regulation, only the great drugs would ever be sold. What a lovely world we could live in?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I would love to cull the stupid, but the bastards just wouldn't die. They get fatter

and fatter and what's worse, they breed, producing even stupider offspring.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Not to mention those cowboy Doctors who 'sell' their pain/anti anxiety medication to whoever wants it, no questions asked, but it's not 'legal' and drugs are fda regulated which is obviously why the current drugs are not very good and cause side effects. If we abolished all the regulation, only the great drugs would ever be sold. What a lovely world we could live in?

VJ Libertarianism seems to draw no end of inspiration from Baldrick's repertoire of "cunning plans".

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Paul's logic put to use:

Eh screw it, lets stop regulating mercury, lead, etc.

Hey lets put Radithor back on the market!

Edited April 20, 2010 by Sousuke

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Paul's logic put to use:

Eh screw it, lets stop regulating mercury, lead, etc.

Hey lets put Radithor back on the market!

I'd be happy if they'd just put heroin in my cheerios. As it stands, I'm being denied my right to happiness.

[Peikko 1,575]

Libertarianism is wonderful, you have such simple solutions. Pollution? No problem, just de regulate and problem solved. Poisons in foods? No problem, just de regulate and problem solved. Air fares too expensive? No problem, all those rules air carriers have to abide by? What a waste of time and money. De regulate and air travel could be cheaper for everyone. What about roads? All those restrictions on speed and stupid things like stop lights, all this red tape stopping us from getting from a to b in the quickest time possible. The solution? Get rid of the rules, anything goes and the stupid will simply be culled making roads better for the intelligent to use. What a win win all around?

No end to quick fixes for every ill that prevents us good, intelligent folks living the good life in the US of A

Edited April 20, 2010 by Madame Cleo

[The_Dude 1,142]

Libertarianism is wonderful, you have such simple solutions. Pollution? No problem, just de regulate and problem solved. Poisons in foods? No problem, just de regulate and problem solved. Air fares too expensive? No problem, all those rules air carriers have to abide by? What a waste of time and money. De regulate and air travel could be cheaper for everyone. What about roads? All those restrictions on speed and stupid things like stop lights, all this red tape stopping us from getting from a to b in the quickest time possible. The solution? Get rid of the rules, anything goes and the stupid will simply be culled making roads better for the intelligent to use. What a win win all around?

No end to quick fixes for every ill that prevents us good, intelligent folks living the good life in the US of A

Libertarians do have some good ideas. It is the zealots that refuse to diverge from the dogma, even when it makes no common sense that it gets a bit ridiculous. But you could make that same case for any ideology.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Libertarianism is wonderful, you have such simple solutions. Pollution? No problem, just de regulate and problem solved. Poisons in foods? No problem, just de regulate and problem solved. Air fares too expensive? No problem, all those rules air carriers have to abide by? What a waste of time and money. De regulate and air travel could be cheaper for everyone. What about roads? All those restrictions on speed and stupid things like stop lights, all this red tape stopping us from getting from a to b in the quickest time possible. The solution? Get rid of the rules, anything goes and the stupid will simply be culled making roads better for the intelligent to use. What a win win all around?

No end to quick fixes for every ill that prevents us good, intelligent folks living the good life in the US of A

heh. I don't think anyone here is talking about completely de-regulating any industry.

There's "good" regulation that actually serves a purpose of helping to keep people ultimately 'safe' without sacrificing liberty of the individual, and then there's 'bad' regulation that inadvertently becomes a control factor over the individual.

We all have 'good' intentions overall when it comes to things. Yet, we all know where that road with good intentions leads to...

[The_Dude 1,142]

heh. I don't think anyone here is talking about completely de-regulating any industry.

There's "good" regulation that actually serves a purpose of helping to keep people ultimately 'safe' without sacrificing liberty of the individual, and then there's 'bad' regulation that inadvertently becomes a control factor over the individual.

We all have 'good' intentions overall when it comes to things. Yet, we all know where that road with good intentions leads to...

You seem to be confusing your own definitions here. Regulating the amount of sodium in food is a good thing, from the standpoint of the health and ultimately quality of life of the american populace, and from a healthcare cost point of view. You still retain the right to add salt to your hot pocket if you so desire. Salt has not been banned.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

heh. I don't think anyone here is talking about completely de-regulating any industry.

There's "good" regulation that actually serves a purpose of helping to keep people ultimately 'safe' without sacrificing liberty of the individual, and then there's 'bad' regulation that inadvertently becomes a control factor over the individual.

We all have 'good' intentions overall when it comes to things. Yet, we all know where that road with good intentions leads to...

"GOOD" and "BAD" are meaningless, lets hope you don't work for the FDA. In life you will find that things aren't black and white.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

You seem to be confusing your own definitions here. Regulating the amount of sodium in food is a good thing, from the standpoint of the health and ultimately quality of life of the american populace, and from a healthcare cost point of view. You still retain the right to add salt to your hot pocket if you so desire. Salt has not been banned.

Not confusing anything.

This isn't about benefitting the people, this is about benefitting the government in health care costs. I mean they have to pay for this bullshit somehow, and what better way than to start regulating/controlling activities even more.

Had this health care bill not passed, this wouldn't be taking place. I can almost assuredly guarantee you that. You're going to see more and more ####### like this all because now, all of a sudden, they are worried about 'costs' eventhough they've had the power to do things for a very long time.

[mawilson 2,133]

This isn't about benefitting the people, this is about benefitting the government in health care costs.

Isn't that the same thing? The taxpayer will ultimately foot the bill for all

government spending, be it with higher taxes, higher insurance premiums, or

inflation - the worst tax of all.