fiance had her interview in Bogota

[ashwood486 0]

Well where do I start?

My fiance had her interview in Bogota Colombia for a K1 Visa. She has gone over the questions they ask her with me on the telephone.

The interviewer ask a small amount of questions about our relationship maybe 5 or 6, never once asking to see any new evidence of our relationship. Keep in mind the original packet I sent with the I29f was almost too good. I had included everything except the 134 form.

They did ask and keep all my letters from my employer and my bank.

My fiance has a 5 year old boy, we decided it would be good for her to have him in the interview also. Our thoughts were focused on evidence of our relationship. We thought the interviewer would question my relationship with her son and his feelings for me.

WOW was we wrong.

I have no clue why, after these few questions the interviewer ask for the child to leave the room. Then questioned her about her relationship with her son, she has all the proper papers for him required by our government original birth certificates etc. Then the women interviewer says she wants more evidence my fiance is the boys mother,

The interviewer wants photos of the boy while growing up with his mother in the photos. The interviewer never once wanted to see the photobook my fiance prepared or any supporting evidence of our relationship together, not included in my original package.

And finally after lots of questions about her son's father, such as where is he now and how long did you date him, why are you not with him now? Keep in mind these things happened 6 years before and she was prepared for questions about our relationship, not one that failed years before. The interviewer writes down 3 things to bring back to the embassy.

Supporting family photos to prove she is his mother.

Another up to date copy of his birth certificate, (she had the original)

And the interviewer says and oh, by the way as she writes down what she wants my fiance to bring back, You can also bring your fiance to the next interview. She never said bring any additional papers or why, just have him come with you.

I have so many mixed emotions of what I want to say to these people. The oh by the way attitude, like its no big deal to just jump on a plane, lost hours and pay from work for both of us and not to mention the $1000.00 plane ticket just for me, hotel, etc.

I can understand if my paperwork was lacking or I did not have evidence of our relationship.

I have said all this to ask if you good people, do you have any suggestions on how I should handle this? Should I telephone the embassy for additional information they may need or ????

Thanks so much

[sugarapple 1]

Wow I would be livid!!!!but breathe and tell your fiancee to gather up the information that the CO needs and If I was you I would try and be there for the next interview..Say a prayer and push on through....Just giving advice as a Vijer...let us know how it goes...

[sachinky 465]

When's her second interview? I'd be there if I were you. I understand your frustration and I'd be mad as heck.

But from what it seems, it's not so much about YOUR relationship, it seems like they are questioning if she is, in fact, the child's biological mother.

[sachinky 465]

I found this on another thread and thought it might be helpful for you as well.

Original post by JimVaPhuong -- "The reason they need this positive proof is because it is not uncommon for someone getting a spousal or fiancee visa to try to bring a nephew or cousin or even a sibling to the US with them. Remember that this is a high fraud country, and a lot of people will do practically anything to get out of there.

What they want is photos showing the beneficiary with the child, starting when the child is young and progressing as the child grows older. They also want to see household registry books, school records, and anything else that shows that there is a real parental relationship between the beneficiary and the child."

Good luck!

[ashwood486 0]

Thanks for the comments,

I understand the need for confirmation of the child. I hope in the future the embassy has a list of things to bring for this process. I have searched everywhere I know of before and after the interview for us to be better prepared. I cannot find anything for the children.

I do not understand the need for me to be at the interview. All my paperwork is in order and I have completed everything the government has asked of me. I honestly think it’s more of a power thing for the interviewer.

I have had the worst time trying to reschedule a new interview. I thought my fiancé was crazy when she told me the process to get a new interview date.

It starts with a trip to the bank and after they have $25.00 they will give you a pin # . You then call a embassy call center, you have just paid for 20 minutes of telephone time with the call center. My fiancé was kept on the telephone until her time ran out and had to go back to the bank for more time. So after another $25.00 and no success. I said to her I will call the embassy, yeah right, the embassy told me they only accept calls with questions for a visa on Wednesdays between 2-4 pm. So, I wait until Wed. and call at 2 pm. The time hit 4 pm and the telephone was still busy. I think the website should read we always unhook the telephone on Wed. between 2-4 pm. Well I said give me the phone number to the call center.

I call and it says this is the embassy call center, this call is $16.00 to reschedule your appointment. 1st call for me and guess what they could not find us in the computer,,, hmmmm. You will have to call back. So another $16.00. This time I have me and my fiance on the telephone with the call center for the embassy. I now have a interview date of 5/21 after spending $82.00.

I questioned the call center for thier location, reluctantly she says its in Mexico, for a US embassy call center hmmm. This is crazy its a 1- 877 number.

I called my senator and they said they would be happy to get involved when I told them about the call center and the embassy wanting me to at the next interview. I told them the embassy did not want me to bring anything new or request anything special just I attend. I thought the economy was horrible and to just cost a new family $2000.00. In a trip to Bogota for what? The senator's office said they wanted all the information I had about the call center and the lost money. I have not sent this information yet.

What’s everyone's opinion about a senator calling and writing a letter for me? I am a little reluctant to rock the boat but, I have almost had it with all this nonsense.

[mike101 8]

Well where do I start?

My fiance had her interview in Bogota Colombia for a K1 Visa. She has gone over the questions they ask her with me on the telephone.

The interviewer ask a small amount of questions about our relationship maybe 5 or 6, never once asking to see any new evidence of our relationship. Keep in mind the original packet I sent with the I29f was almost too good. I had included everything except the 134 form.

They did ask and keep all my letters from my employer and my bank.

My fiance has a 5 year old boy, we decided it would be good for her to have him in the interview also. Our thoughts were focused on evidence of our relationship. We thought the interviewer would question my relationship with her son and his feelings for me.

WOW was we wrong.

I have no clue why, after these few questions the interviewer ask for the child to leave the room. Then questioned her about her relationship with her son, she has all the proper papers for him required by our government original birth certificates etc. Then the women interviewer says she wants more evidence my fiance is the boys mother,

The interviewer wants photos of the boy while growing up with his mother in the photos. The interviewer never once wanted to see the photobook my fiance prepared or any supporting evidence of our relationship together, not included in my original package.

And finally after lots of questions about her son's father, such as where is he now and how long did you date him, why are you not with him now? Keep in mind these things happened 6 years before and she was prepared for questions about our relationship, not one that failed years before. The interviewer writes down 3 things to bring back to the embassy.

Supporting family photos to prove she is his mother.

Another up to date copy of his birth certificate, (she had the original)

And the interviewer says and oh, by the way as she writes down what she wants my fiance to bring back, You can also bring your fiance to the next interview. She never said bring any additional papers or why, just have him come with you.

I have so many mixed emotions of what I want to say to these people. The oh by the way attitude, like its no big deal to just jump on a plane, lost hours and pay from work for both of us and not to mention the $1000.00 plane ticket just for me, hotel, etc.

I can understand if my paperwork was lacking or I did not have evidence of our relationship.

I have said all this to ask if you good people, do you have any suggestions on how I should handle this? Should I telephone the embassy for additional information they may need or ????

Thanks so much

I can only imagine how you feel... It takes so much time to prepare for the interview and its disappointing and upsetting to have her tell you that you need to return a second time with evidence that was already in your portfolio.

My only guess is that she had suspicion that she was not the mother of the child.

Right now we are waiting for an interview date and do plan to attend it.. I'm expecting a possible date in May if not June.

I'd also say have your senator write the letter if he is willing. I think it could give you some extra assurance that it will get approved. I would also bite the bullet and try to attend the second interview if you can. I know its a lot of money and time, but I'm sure that you dont want to have to wait more time.

I also think the entire visa process is crazy. They ask for so many items and make you jump through so many hoops just to marry the person that you love... I also plan on writing a letter to my representatives as well about the process.

[TBoneTX 45,285]

This treatment would absolutely be routine if you were dealing with the consulate in the country just next door. We were all ordered to attend, in this exact way. Take it from me, as the mouthpiece of "us" (those who have been through the same): The visa will be refused if you do not attend the second interview (si man, on your time & your dime). You will be jerked around during the appointment process. Fully expect a Stokes interrogation. Read the thread "US Consulate in Guayaquil, Ecuador" in the Embassy/Consulate forum, paying particular attention to all of the WORST stories and those that discuss children. Also, read the pinned thread in (I believe) the Embassy/Consulate forum, "Embassy wants petitioner at second interview."

Do not take this lightly; do not expect any senator or congressman to have any influence; do not expect a lawyer or law firm to be able to do anything until or unless the visa is formally refused. You will be at a great disadvantage if you fail to avail yourself of the experience of others here, which are laid out in the above-mentioned threads.

Again: Fully expect a Stokes interrogation.

Edited April 19, 2010 by TBoneTX

[sachinky 465]

Glad to know you finally managed to secure another interview date! Will you be attending?

Good luck and I'll keep you in my thoughts. All the very best to you!

[Darnell 8,478]

I called my senator and they said they would be happy to get involved when I told them about the call center and the embassy wanting me to at the next interview. I told them the embassy did not want me to bring anything new or request anything special just I attend. I thought the economy was horrible and to just cost a new family $2000.00. In a trip to Bogota for what? The senator's office said they wanted all the information I had about the call center and the lost money. I have not sent this information yet.

IMO, you lied to yer senator, specifically about the stuff I bolded, above.

Yer lass was not allowed on interview day to submit the photos as any proof about her son. Sorry about that, nothing to do with any time machine. The photos MUST NOW BE SUBMITTED properly, via some postal mail thing, or via a 2nd interview.

Don't know squat about Columbia, but for China, a high fraud country (which I DO KNOW ABOUT) - they are looking for photos with the mother and child from birth to current, usually every 5 to 9 months since birth, even with the biological father and the mother and the child.

IMO, yer lass received a 221(g) , asking for more information, and specifically asking you for you to be there during a 2nd interview. Tell yer lass to COPY the frickin paperwork that she received at the Embassy, and email it to you. YOU REVIEW IT, and let us know exactly what was on it.

Good Luck, however it turns out.

Edited April 19, 2010 by Darnell

[sachinky 465]

What does the 221g specifically say?

[Mononoke28 135]

The one thing you need to keep in mind is that Colombia is considered a high fraud country when it comes to these type of issues, so every CO has to think of that when conducting the interview. If all they're asking is for more pictures of the two of them together over the years and a new birth certificate, then that's what she needs to bring with her. Be glad they didn't ask for a DNA test because that can cost up to $500.

As for you having to go to the interview, you have no choice but to go even if they never ask you a question during her second interview. They're pretty much testing you to see if you're willing to go for her to get her visa, that's my opinion. But don't feel like you're the only one, many people are asked to go to the interview before a visa can be issued.

Good luck!

Diana

[ashwood486 0]

Hello all, I really want to thank everyone for the valuable advice and links, also for the time you have taken to respond.

I do have an interview in the middle of May.

The call center told us if the intervierwer would have used red ink they could give us a faster interview date. Just in case anyone has this issue later.

I have listened to all the great advice. I have every intention of being at the second interview. The reason this is such a big deal, I always try my best to be prepared for everything. The interviewer never requested any additional information from me, the petitioner, also never questioned my paperwork and never looked at our evidence for a relationship. The interviewer only requested more evidence for my fiances son. I totally understand this we never included any evidence for him other than his birth certificate and him in the interview. If I could have found something I would have covered that side of the process.

I have been blessed by God with a great ticket leaving Ft. Lauderdale on spirit air straight to Bogota for $171.00 round trip.

I have written my senator, maybe he can help some, he offered so why not. I did send a copy of the 221g to the senator written by the interviewer.

I will list the only thing the embassy checked on the 221g and the additional comments she included. Please bear with me and my bad Spanish. I speak better than I can write Spanish.

221g -no ha presentado la documentacion para establecer su elegibilidad

221g - has not submitted documentation to establish eligibility

se sugiere entrevista con el peticionario. el peticionario no debera hacer planes de viaje hasta no tener confirmada la fecha de entrevista con el servicio del centro de liamadas/call center. las instrucciones estan abajo anotadas

suggested meeting with the petitioner. the petitioner must make travel plans until we have confirmed the date of interview with Liam center service / call center. instructions are listed below

fotos desde el hacimento hasta

actualidad entre la madre

Photos from the hacimento up

Currently between mother

This was the only thing the interviewer has listed on the 221g

I have suggested to the senator a webcam interview in a local immigration office would seem better for new families just starting out, with the economy so bad in the US. After reading some of the comments this seems a little naive of me now. I have never realized the fraud aspect of the whole thing.

I will keep working the different angles to take even more evidence with me. I also want to piont out the great advice from an earlier poster for the school records and I also told my fiance to get doctor records that had her and her sons name on them.

I am open to suggestions for any material I should bring with me. This is hard thing for me to be patient with. I feel a little like guilty until proven innocent.

I also want advice on how I will be treated at the embassy.

I have read some bad stories about these types of interviews, it seems the worst interviews have been when the petitioner is a female or the age difference is huge. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks so much for your input,

[mike101 8]

Hello all, I really want to thank everyone for the valuable advice and links, also for the time you have taken to respond.

I do have an interview in the middle of May.

The call center told us if the intervierwer would have used red ink they could give us a faster interview date. Just in case anyone has this issue later.

I have listened to all the great advice. I have every intention of being at the second interview. The reason this is such a big deal, I always try my best to be prepared for everything. The interviewer never requested any additional information from me, the petitioner, also never questioned my paperwork and never looked at our evidence for a relationship. The interviewer only requested more evidence for my fiances son. I totally understand this we never included any evidence for him other than his birth certificate and him in the interview. If I could have found something I would have covered that side of the process.

I have been blessed by God with a great ticket leaving Ft. Lauderdale on spirit air straight to Bogota for $171.00 round trip.

I have written my senator, maybe he can help some, he offered so why not. I did send a copy of the 221g to the senator written by the interviewer.

I will list the only thing the embassy checked on the 221g and the additional comments she included. Please bear with me and my bad Spanish. I speak better than I can write Spanish.

221g -no ha presentado la documentacion para establecer su elegibilidad

221g - has not submitted documentation to establish eligibility

se sugiere entrevista con el peticionario. el peticionario no debera hacer planes de viaje hasta no tener confirmada la fecha de entrevista con el servicio del centro de liamadas/call center. las instrucciones estan abajo anotadas

suggested meeting with the petitioner. the petitioner must make travel plans until we have confirmed the date of interview with Liam center service / call center. instructions are listed below

fotos desde el hacimento hasta

actualidad entre la madre

Photos from the hacimento up

Currently between mother

This was the only thing the interviewer has listed on the 221g

I have suggested to the senator a webcam interview in a local immigration office would seem better for new families just starting out, with the economy so bad in the US. After reading some of the comments this seems a little naive of me now. I have never realized the fraud aspect of the whole thing.

I will keep working the different angles to take even more evidence with me. I also want to piont out the great advice from an earlier poster for the school records and I also told my fiance to get doctor records that had her and her sons name on them.

I am open to suggestions for any material I should bring with me. This is hard thing for me to be patient with. I feel a little like guilty until proven innocent.

I also want advice on how I will be treated at the embassy.

I have read some bad stories about these types of interviews, it seems the worst interviews have been when the petitioner is a female or the age difference is huge. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks so much for your input,

I wish you well my friend. You also got an amazing deal with a $171 round trip ticket to Bogota. I wish the best to you.

As for evidence..

Who knows.. That interviewer may want a picture and video of the live birth of her son. (This was a joke)

Seriously, I believe you are on the right track, school records, doctor records, report cards (if she has them), pictures, your support documents.. You seem to be on the right track and look forward to your "WE GOT APPROVED" post in mid May.