How much support documentation is enough for I129F?

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Ok, putting the I129F packet together for sending tomorrow... But, from others experiences, how much support documentation do I really need?

In addition to all the standard required documents:

cover letter

check for filing fee

His and her passport photos

I129F (of course!)

his and her G325A's

Letter of intent from fiance

Letter of how we met and intent (me) How creative/lengthy should this be?

copies of my birth certificate and passport (including stamped page from my visit)

copy of my marriage certificate (previous)

and certificate of dissolution (so over!)

So how much more documentation do I need to prove ongoing relationship, length of relationship, and proof of having met etc? I have 2 pages (3 pictures of myself with Judith and 1 with her sister and I from the visit) but I also have:

6 pages, covering 5 months (Feb through July 2006) of phone contact (very regular)

emails, recent and going back to 2004 (I would hardly include all, but 2 or 3 samples?)

instant messages which show how far back we go (I would only include 1 page to show how long we have communicated)

letter from the hotel I stayed at indicating my reservation

copies of airline ticket stubs covering the trip to UAE

2 page itinerary of my flight reservations

How much is too much? Any recommendations? Am I missing anything? Too much?

On an unrelated note, how are people putting in flag gifs and pre-I129F filing timelines directly into messages on here?

[TucsonBill 0]

Things your might want to include:

Photos of the two of you together <-- biggie

I've read that a copy of receipt for engagement ring is also a big plus

Read back through the instructions carefully

Make sure every form is filled out completely

You can add your visa timeline and such by editing your 'signature' on your profile page.

Bill

[iceyspots 0]

You are going to only want to present to them at the time of filing initially, proof that you've met in person within the past 2 years.

This may include photos, boarding passes, passport stamps etc. Or anything that could put you two in the same place at the same time.

All the other evidence is great, but you're going to want to save that for the consular interview, when you have to establish that you've had an ongoing relationship.

Good luck

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Things your might want to include:

Photos of the two of you together <-- biggie

I've read that a copy of receipt for engagement ring is also a big plus

Read back through the instructions carefully

Make sure every form is filled out completely

You can add your visa timeline and such by editing your 'signature' on your profile page.

Bill

Thanks Bill, you bet I will be double and triple checking all the forms prior to submission. I am just worried about including too much, or too little with regards to proving length of relationship. I do have a reciept for a diamond ring, purchased in United Arab Emirates so I think good idea, I will include it!

[caagirl 0]

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[antone 0]

Thanks Bill, you bet I will be double and triple checking all the forms prior to submission. I am just worried about including too much, or too little with regards to proving length of relationship. I do have a reciept for a diamond ring, purchased in United Arab Emirates so I think good idea, I will include it!

You don't actually need to prove the length of your relationship at this point. Your main priority is to prove that you have met in the last two years. I would suggest concentrating on things that will demonstrate this, and save the heavier evidence about the length of your relationship and proof that it is ongoing for the consular interview, when such things may well be important.

[iceyspots 0]

[aussiewench 9]

go to this website www.***removed*** all your questions can be answer there!

Good Luck on your petition

Why are you continually posting this exact same statement relating to another site. Drumming up business aye The same USCIS forms are accessible right here on VJ. Example forms to assist one in completing them are also available here.

ready4ONE

Use Q18 to describe in some detail of how you met in the required 2 year period that established the relationship. Then the evidence you submit should support those details. Boarding passes, passport stamps, hotel/credit card receipts, rental receipts if ever lived together etc etc are primary evidence. Photos are secondary which support the primary evidence. What you should be aiming for is creating an image in the minds eye of the adjudicator.

Whilst evidence of an ongoing relationship is not a requirement at the initial filing stage, it can be beneficial to those from high fraud countries to do so. Just go over this evidence very carefully especially emails and chat, to make sure there is nothing mentioned that may be construed in a different way then it is meant.

Edited August 4, 2006 by aussiewench

[ready4ONE 5,400]

go to this website www.***removed*** all your questions can be answer there!

Good Luck on your petition

Why are you continually posting this exact same statement relating to another site. Drumming up business aye The same USCIS forms are accessible right here on VJ. Example forms to assist one in completing them are also available here.

ready4ONE

Use Q18 to describe in some detail of how you met in the required 2 year period that established the relationship. Then the evidence you submit should support those details. Boarding passes, passport stamps, hotel/credit card receipts, rental receipts if ever lived together etc etc are primary evidence. Photos are secondary which support the primary evidence. What you should be aiming for is creating an image in the minds eye of the adjudicator.

Whilst evidence of an ongoing relationship is not a requirement at the initial filing stage, it can be beneficial to those from high fraud countries to do so. Just go over this evidence very carefully especially emails and chat, to make sure there is nothing mentioned that may be construed in a different way then it is meant.

Well I suppose I could adjust my packet a little bit. I took the advice of focusing on the proof of having met instead of trying to show the ongoing length of relationship for question 18... It would be a simple matter just to print out the oldest envelope from a card she sent me Valentines Day 2005 and add it into the documentation. But the question is pretty specific as to being about the meeting in person...

Jeez! I want to mail this off tomorrow and get the official K-1 countdown going! I think I better adjust my cover letter one more time and include some documentation of how far back we go relationship-wise, since the Philippines is indeed just such a high fraud country. J is as real and sweet as they come though.

[aussiewench 9]

ready4ONE

Use Q18 to describe in some detail of how you met in the required 2 year period that established the relationship. Then the evidence you submit should support those details. Boarding passes, passport stamps, hotel/credit card receipts, rental receipts if ever lived together etc etc are primary evidence. Photos are secondary which support the primary evidence. What you should be aiming for is creating an image in the minds eye of the adjudicator.

Whilst evidence of an ongoing relationship is not a requirement at the initial filing stage, it can be beneficial to those from high fraud countries to do so. Just go over this evidence very carefully especially emails and chat, to make sure there is nothing mentioned that may be construed in a different way then it is meant.

Well I suppose I could adjust my packet a little bit. I took the advice of focusing on the proof of having met instead of trying to show the ongoing length of relationship for question 18... It would be a simple matter just to print out the oldest envelope from a card she sent me Valentines Day 2005 and add it into the documentation. But the question is pretty specific as to being about the meeting in person...

Jeez! I want to mail this off tomorrow and get the official K-1 countdown going! I think I better adjust my cover letter one more time and include some documentation of how far back we go relationship-wise, since the Philippines is indeed just such a high fraud country. J is as real and sweet as they come though.

Whilst I agree that the question and evidence only requests that you provide proof of the meeting requirement and I usually advocate that in most circumstances......If a conof at the interview for any reason thinks the relationship is not bonafide they can send the petition back to USCIS for revocation. By providing evidence of the relationship at the initial stage and having such petition approved, a conof cannot send it back for those reasons. It is a safety measure for those that will be interviewing in high fraud countries, in doing all that you can to have the visa approved without hiccups. This is also the case and assists when there is red flags that may cause an issue at interview stage.

Edited August 4, 2006 by aussiewench

[RosaMystica7 0]

ready4ONE

Use Q18 to describe in some detail of how you met in the required 2 year period that established the relationship. Then the evidence you submit should support those details. Boarding passes, passport stamps, hotel/credit card receipts, rental receipts if ever lived together etc etc are primary evidence. Photos are secondary which support the primary evidence. What you should be aiming for is creating an image in the minds eye of the adjudicator.

Whilst evidence of an ongoing relationship is not a requirement at the initial filing stage, it can be beneficial to those from high fraud countries to do so. Just go over this evidence very carefully especially emails and chat, to make sure there is nothing mentioned that may be construed in a different way then it is meant.

Well I suppose I could adjust my packet a little bit. I took the advice of focusing on the proof of having met instead of trying to show the ongoing length of relationship for question 18... It would be a simple matter just to print out the oldest envelope from a card she sent me Valentines Day 2005 and add it into the documentation. But the question is pretty specific as to being about the meeting in person...

Jeez! I want to mail this off tomorrow and get the official K-1 countdown going! I think I better adjust my cover letter one more time and include some documentation of how far back we go relationship-wise, since the Philippines is indeed just such a high fraud country. J is as real and sweet as they come though.

Whilst I agree that the question and evidence only requests that you provide proof of the meeting requirement and I usually advocate that in most circumstances......If a conof at the interview for any reason thinks the relationship is not bonafide they can send the petition back to USCIS for revocation. By providing evidence of the relationship at the initial stage and having such petition approved, a conof cannot send it back for those reasons. It is a safety measure for those that will be interviewing in high fraud countries, in doing all that you can to have the visa approved without hiccups. This is also the case and assists when there is red flags that may cause an issue at interview stage.

If you ARE going to send the e-mails, I have 2 cautions:

I remember reading a story on the forum back around January the 1st time I was active here... I remember reading something about a couple who sent e-mails in with their I-129F. The officer at the interview asked the fiance questions about things in the e-mails and the fiance didn't remember, and it caused problems. I don't know if I remember that correctly or not, but it could have been avoided by the fiance having a photocopy of the entire packet with him/her at the interview. So make sure you do that - photocopy the ENTIRE package and send your fiance(e) a copy.

Next - read through the e-mails and make sure there's nothing in there, particularly jokes, about terrorism or anti-government (like anti-Bush jokes). I also remember hearing about someone, and again I don't know if I'm remembering this correctly or not, who sent e-mails that just-so-happened to have jokes about a terrorist subject in them and it caused problems. It's like they say "don't say 'bomb' in an airport." I remember as a kid once I was gonna pop a bag while on a plane and my mom yelled at me saying people would think it was something going wrong. Make sure there's nothing in those e-mails that the government could take badly.

[Mew 0]

Make sure there's nothing in those e-mails that the government could take badly.

Or you can simply black out excerpts that are too personal or somehow inappropriate.

[RosaMystica7 0]

Make sure there's nothing in those e-mails that the government could take badly.

Or you can simply black out excerpts that are too personal or somehow inappropriate.

I always miss the obvious, somehow.

[Mew 0]

Make sure there's nothing in those e-mails that the government could take badly.

Or you can simply black out excerpts that are too personal or somehow inappropriate.

I always miss the obvious, somehow.

Hey, don't worry. In the past few days you've learned a lot *and* given some very good pieces of advice.

[RosaMystica7 0]

Make sure there's nothing in those e-mails that the government could take badly.

Or you can simply black out excerpts that are too personal or somehow inappropriate.

I always miss the obvious, somehow.

Hey, don't worry. In the past few days you've learned a lot *and* given some very good pieces of advice.

Thanks!