Who Pays Taxes?

[Jenn! 918]

I couldn't help but notice how much less we paid in taxes this year after having a kid. No wonder people have so many of them.

[mawilson 2,133]

No one is owed a living wage. You are paid what you're worth.

Yet you believe that any individual is "owed" healthcare by virtue of existence

and that the "help" must be paid for by all other citizens?

I couldn't help but notice how much less we paid in taxes this year after having a kid. No wonder people have so many of them.

This doesn't make any sense. People should be penalized for having children, not rewarded with a lower tax liability.

[SMOKE 1,426]

I couldn't help but notice how much less we paid in taxes this year after having a kid. No wonder people have so many of them.

[Ban Hammer 13,429]

I couldn't help but notice how much less we paid in taxes this year after having a kid. No wonder people have so many of them.

yeah, i saw the mortgage interest deduction take a hike this year :insert_ranting_smiley_here:

[SMOKE 1,426]

yeah, i saw the mortgage interest deduction take a hike this year :insert_ranting_smiley_here:

gotta pay for that 8K for first time buyers.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

No one is owed a living wage. You are paid what you're worth.

Yet you believe that any individual is "owed" healthcare by virtue of existence

and that the "help" must be paid for by all other citizens?

Yes. We both clearly draw our lines differently.

You draw the line at the taxpayer, acting through the federal government, paying for emergency surgery for the child of an uninsured cashier. You'd rather the child die or be disabled forever.

I draw the line at the taxpayer, acting through the federal government, telling the uninsured cashier that he has no need to better his skillset or get a second job, because we guarantee that his POS "job" will pay a living wage.

[Texanadian 10]

It's really a mistake to refer to it as an "income" tax. It's really more of a family tax. Except that the bigger your family, the less you pay. I don't think there should be any deduction for children. This is a personal choice and it's not related directly to your income production (ie your job).

I do find it rather backwards when a co-worker of mine who's wife stays at home, have two kids, and got $4500 back from the IRS. Meanwhile my wife and I (both working) owe nearly $1500. Co-worker bought a 50" TV a few months back. Meanwhile I'm using a Craig's List 27" TV that we bought for $25. I pay for family health care at work (wife's grown son is nearly to the cut off point in age). Co-worker has single coverage and medicaid for his wife and kids. So even though we do the same job, I pay more for health insurance and more in income taxes. I work overtime every week.

Ever notice that poor people with multiple kids often are unmarried? They get a better tax deal if both people file Head of Household and then each deduct children.

Friedman can take part of the credit for the EITC. But his idea was for a negative income tax. Similar but different. He also was for getting rid of welfare, government subsidized housing, medicaid etc. The idea being that the extra money gained by low income workers by the negative income tax could pay for things like traditional health care.