Using Yahoo Messenger for proof of ongoing relationship?

[Bernie C 24]

Hey Dog,

Remember what you sent for the I-129f and what you ned for the interview are a little different.

What you submited for the I129F simply needed to prove that you have met in person within the past two years. Proof of ongoing relationship for purposes of the petition is a minimal thing. Some choose to provide more in frontloading.

Since your application is off to the USCIS now its time to focul on continued and maintained relationship and proof to support it.

Yes - yahoo chat logs are ok (We had hundreds of pages of email and chat logs - but in our case in Vietnam the CO never looked at a single one! - strange but true).

Primary evidence for the interview stage would be boarding passes, passport stamps, photos of the two of you togeteer at different places and times, hotel receipts, restaurant receipts, phone logs, cards, letters, etc. Things that show you continue to maintain your relationship.

As far as the photos being dated, in my opinion it should not be a problem. We used all digital photos. I used MS Power Point, I cut and pasted photos into power point using the software, labeled the photos with who was in them, the date , location, event etc.

I created two "books" for the interview. The 1st had all the "technical" documents required. The 2nd was all proof of relationship.

I had four visits prior to the interview so I separated all our proof of relationship by dates, Jan 09, Apr 09, Sep 09 and Dec 09. In each section I put the photos first, followed by boarding passes, ticket receipts and itinerary, then other types of receipts, then the email and chat logs. I did this for each section. I put an index in the front and tabbed all

the sections to make it easy to find everything.

Save anything and everything that has to do with the two of you. You never know how much or how little the CO will want to see. In our case the CO asked only to see my Sept 09 flight tickets and some pictures. But others have been asked for loads of stuff. You just never know so be prepared.

Good news is that you have lots of time to start planning, gathering and organizing!

You may get some varying feedback as to what is considered primary and secondary evidence. In the end its really what the CO wants to see, but to differentiate I like to think of it in this way - what type of evidence best shows and proves to a CO that we have continued and maintained our relationship. Leaves the door wide open so "save it all".

Best Wishes

[marklovetina 52]

Hey Dog,

Remember what you sent for the I-129f and what you ned for the interview are a little different.

What you submited for the I129F simply needed to prove that you have met in person within the past two years. Proof of ongoing relationship for purposes of the petition is a minimal thing. Some choose to provide more in frontloading.

Since your application is off to the USCIS now its time to focul on continued and maintained relationship and proof to support it.

Yes - yahoo chat logs are ok (We had hundreds of pages of email and chat logs - but in our case in Vietnam the CO never looked at a single one! - strange but true).

Primary evidence for the interview stage would be boarding passes, passport stamps, photos of the two of you togeteer at different places and times, hotel receipts, restaurant receipts, phone logs, cards, letters, etc. Things that show you continue to maintain your relationship.

As far as the photos being dated, in my opinion it should not be a problem. We used all digital photos. I used MS Power Point, I cut and pasted photos into power point using the software, labeled the photos with who was in them, the date , location, event etc.

I created two "books" for the interview. The 1st had all the "technical" documents required. The 2nd was all proof of relationship.

I had four visits prior to the interview so I separated all our proof of relationship by dates, Jan 09, Apr 09, Sep 09 and Dec 09. In each section I put the photos first, followed by boarding passes, ticket receipts and itinerary, then other types of receipts, then the email and chat logs. I did this for each section. I put an index in the front and tabbed all

the sections to make it easy to find everything.

Save anything and everything that has to do with the two of you. You never know how much or how little the CO will want to see. In our case the CO asked only to see my Sept 09 flight tickets and some pictures. But others have been asked for loads of stuff. You just never know so be prepared.

Good news is that you have lots of time to start planning, gathering and organizing!

You may get some varying feedback as to what is considered primary and secondary evidence. In the end its really what the CO wants to see, but to differentiate I like to think of it in this way - what type of evidence best shows and proves to a CO that we have continued and maintained our relationship. Leaves the door wide open so "save it all".

Best Wishes

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[marklovetina 52]

You can bring up a page of your call history. I don't think it's printable but you might be about to do a print screen shot, save it and print it out that way.

My partner and I use Yahoo to call most of the time too.

Just a suggestion, best of luck .

same here...

and oh u can print it just copy it and paste it on excel.. it works on my yahoo call logs...

Edited April 15, 2010 by godsgift

[oliver-chris 3]

it is depend on the CO sis what evidence he will gonna ask on the interview.. if he didnt ask those secondary evidences then good, no harm if u bring all the evidences u have, there is a member here who denied bcoz lack of pix... what if the CO ask u.. do u have phone bills or chat logs..? and u don't have it... result: u will be deny hehehe...

You have to have pictures of course! no questions about that, but you dont have to have everything, not everybody can afford to call and it depends on the location of both couple. I believe that many those who got denied are mostly those who cannot express themselves and getting easily intimidated talking to a CO . The CO will always try to intimidate you, it's how you answer back the CO and being able to express what's in your mind . No offensement but there are some who cannot grasp everything when they are conversing with someone whose English is their native tongue .

[dog8005 0]

Hey Dog,

Remember what you sent for the I-129f and what you ned for the interview are a little different.

What you submited for the I129F simply needed to prove that you have met in person within the past two years. Proof of ongoing relationship for purposes of the petition is a minimal thing. Some choose to provide more in frontloading.

Since your application is off to the USCIS now its time to focul on continued and maintained relationship and proof to support it.

Yes - yahoo chat logs are ok (We had hundreds of pages of email and chat logs - but in our case in Vietnam the CO never looked at a single one! - strange but true).

Primary evidence for the interview stage would be boarding passes, passport stamps, photos of the two of you togeteer at different places and times, hotel receipts, restaurant receipts, phone logs, cards, letters, etc. Things that show you continue to maintain your relationship.

As far as the photos being dated, in my opinion it should not be a problem. We used all digital photos. I used MS Power Point, I cut and pasted photos into power point using the software, labeled the photos with who was in them, the date , location, event etc.

I created two "books" for the interview. The 1st had all the "technical" documents required. The 2nd was all proof of relationship.

I had four visits prior to the interview so I separated all our proof of relationship by dates, Jan 09, Apr 09, Sep 09 and Dec 09. In each section I put the photos first, followed by boarding passes, ticket receipts and itinerary, then other types of receipts, then the email and chat logs. I did this for each section. I put an index in the front and tabbed all

the sections to make it easy to find everything.

Save anything and everything that has to do with the two of you. You never know how much or how little the CO will want to see. In our case the CO asked only to see my Sept 09 flight tickets and some pictures. But others have been asked for loads of stuff. You just never know so be prepared.

Good news is that you have lots of time to start planning, gathering and organizing!

You may get some varying feedback as to what is considered primary and secondary evidence. In the end its really what the CO wants to see, but to differentiate I like to think of it in this way - what type of evidence best shows and proves to a CO that we have continued and maintained our relationship. Leaves the door wide open so "save it all".

Best Wishes

Thanks for all the info, I really appreciate it.

I have only been there to see her in person once a few months ago. I would love to go again before her interview but I don't have enough time off to go now and again to bring her home with me. I would prefer to go and accompany her home on the plane. Do you think only having one visit in person will likely cause a problem even if we have several hours of chat logs every day since we met?

[fox fox 5]

what i did was go into the ym saved chat logs and took a screen shot of the fact that we had chats daily, showing dates. I saved them as pictures for her to print out. it was good enough. also, anything you two send to each other, save any receipts...items purchased and shipping.

i only flew there to meet her once and proposed to her during that trip. the next time i saw her was when she was cleared into the US.

i only flew there to meet her once and proposed to her during that trip. the next time i saw her was when she was cleared into the US.

[Bernie C 24]

Thanks for all the info, I really appreciate it.

I have only been there to see her in person once a few months ago. I would love to go again before her interview but I don't have enough time off to go now and again to bring her home with me. I would prefer to go and accompany her home on the plane. Do you think only having one visit in person will likely cause a problem even if we have several hours of chat logs every day since we met?

The more the better but I have read many cases in the PI where one visit was successful. That would be a good topic for the regional forum to get feedback specifically from others who have gone through the PI. We were through Ho Chi Minh Consulate in Vietnam which is an extremely difficult consulate.

Best Wishes to you both!

[CA dreamer 3]

be well prepared:

print your yahoo chat logs

take print screens of the vonage calls showing the date/duration of calls(press button prt sc) then open the mspaint program in accessories found in start menu,press ctrl+V then print your pic

however you may not be asked about any proof just like my case,she asked if we took pics,i gave her an album she opened 2 pages of it in a very quick manner,but be prepared in all cases and the most part be confident,real about your answers,have a great memory for any dates in your spouse's life like date of engagement,date of his birth,date he moved to this state,date he got this job,high school,his relatives.....etc

[Dakine 26]

I don't have any idea why people call pictures "secondary evidence". For one we were denied the first time because of lack of enough pictures.

For 2 during the embassy, AOS and USC interviews the COs mainly checked out our pictures.

Old saying! "Picture is worth a thousand words".

[wasmah 0]

what i did guys i take a snapshort every week from MSN and have charge some online internet phone service like net2phone e.t.c for overseas from usa that why have a record that will showing to the day of interview

but i am confuse 2 years later my bro have filed i130 for his wife and his wife says they did not ask any MSN things or any phone bills. They ask only PHOTOS ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS e.t.c

but never know be save on our site

[Audy_Rob 26]

Thanks for all the info, I really appreciate it.

I have only been there to see her in person once a few months ago. I would love to go again before her interview but I don't have enough time off to go now and again to bring her home with me. I would prefer to go and accompany her home on the plane. Do you think only having one visit in person will likely cause a problem even if we have several hours of chat logs every day since we met?

One visit only is not a reason for denial. However I think it raises the bar on documentation necessary to show an ongoing committed relationship. Emails, chat logs, phone bills etc... will be required.

Good luck

[Scott and Mhay 57]

I don't have any idea why people call pictures "secondary evidence". For one we were denied the first time because of lack of enough pictures.

For 2 during the embassy, AOS and USC interviews the COs mainly checked out our pictures.

Old saying! "Picture is worth a thousand words".

Exactly...Mhay had a small photo album made up and the CO took the whole thing. I think she had around 20-25 pictures in it. They also took 5 of the cards that Mhay had from when I sent her flowers and gifts from island rose.

[pinkhonu 5]

quick question...

i got skype credits.. and can call any landline or mobile phone worldwide...

will that also serve as phone bill record? or phone call records?

[Anh map 2,098]

We submitted Yahoo chat transcripts in response to an RFE requesting more proof of relationship. And she got the visa, so it had to have helped.

[Tahlisha 28]

Yahoo has something like a phone service..... Yahoo Voice.... I use it to call his cell phone and you are able to print the call record..... His sisters husband used this in place of phone records..