monthly support from fiance

[Melo 1]

Your style of vernacular and choice of words would be no different when talking to a friend vs. a stranger (in this case someone from another country)? A friend understands you, knows your style and where you are coming from. I don't think any of us here actually talk to a stranger in the same way we do to our friends. So often (and here on VJ is a perfect example), people misunderstand each other. It behooves us to keep that in mind when we are reading what they say - that perhaps the way you understand it isn't the way they meant it.

Aye, but Steven, this is a US based message board, written in English, for people trying to get visas to come to the UNITED STATES. Sooner or later, they will have to understand the way Americans are, and how English is spoken. It is not for me to understand what everyone from every other country means since I am not trying to go to their country.

Stranger or not... my advice is my advice, my opinion is my opinion. I don't tailor it for diffent people or different countries.

It is a message board to provide assistance to those trying to get visas to go to the United States. Yes it is written in English; but I have to say this Robert, that I am surprised at the arrogance of your remark "It is not for me to understand what everyone from every other country means since I am not trying to go to their country."

So you would not take into account a person's cultural background??? Wow!!! That is an eye-opener!!!

I find myself sick to the stomach at the attitudes of some here... but hey the good thing is I don't have to live with people of such ilk!!!

[Laura_and_IanM 0]

How come the song..."And the thunder rolls"......keeps playing in my head????

[babybunny 2]

How come the song..."And the thunder rolls"......keeps playing in my head????

coz.. you need advil want some? * hands over the bottle *

please everyone calm down - get some advil, eat popcorn or wait for the fluffy kitty posse. * think its their shift up next* dont argues no more. this is silly. ((((((((((( huggg )))))))))))))))))

send a sexy Email to your sweetie & maybe a DIRTY pic or two and get your minds in a better place..

Edited August 6, 2006 by babybunny

[*Robert* 2]

It is a message board to provide assistance to those trying to get visas to go to the United States. Yes it is written in English; but I have to say this Robert, that I am surprised at the arrogance of your remark "It is not for me to understand what everyone from every other country means since I am not trying to go to their country."

So you would not take into account a person's cultural background??? Wow!!! That is an eye-opener!!!

I find myself sick to the stomach at the attitudes of some here... but hey the good thing is I don't have to live with people of such ilk!!!

Wow... who pissed in your cheerios?! Are you saying I have to know about everyone from every country? Do you think I know nothing about the Philippines when I can speak and write the language? Do you think I DON'T take a persons nationality and culture into consideration? I was making a point, nothing more. So now you have gone and judged me, without knowing anything about my experience and background.

tsk tsk...

VJ sheesh

If you're getting sick, I suggest you go take a pill and lie down, and stop reading all of our "ilk".

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Your style of vernacular and choice of words would be no different when talking to a friend vs. a stranger (in this case someone from another country)? A friend understands you, knows your style and where you are coming from. I don't think any of us here actually talk to a stranger in the same way we do to our friends. So often (and here on VJ is a perfect example), people misunderstand each other. It behooves us to keep that in mind when we are reading what they say - that perhaps the way you understand it isn't the way they meant it.

Aye, but Steven, this is a US based message board, written in English, for people trying to get visas to come to the UNITED STATES. Sooner or later, they will have to understand the way Americans are, and how English is spoken. It is not for me to understand what everyone from every other countrie means since I am not trying to go to their country.

Stranger or not... my advice is my advice, my opinion is my opinion. I don't tailor it for diffent people or different countries.

I would love to know what the OP plan on telling the CO at her interview.

when the CO ask how much he paying YOU!.

she will say.

CO he pay me every month!

Receipts of money sent are one form of proof of relationship. Don't forget the Affidavit of Support that is required at the time of the interview. I'm not sure what you're getting at.

[babybunny 2]

Your style of vernacular and choice of words would be no different when talking to a friend vs. a stranger (in this case someone from another country)? A friend understands you, knows your style and where you are coming from. I don't think any of us here actually talk to a stranger in the same way we do to our friends. So often (and here on VJ is a perfect example), people misunderstand each other. It behooves us to keep that in mind when we are reading what they say - that perhaps the way you understand it isn't the way they meant it.

Aye, but Steven, this is a US based message board, written in English, for people trying to get visas to come to the UNITED STATES. Sooner or later, they will have to understand the way Americans are, and how English is spoken. It is not for me to understand what everyone from every other countrie means since I am not trying to go to their country.

Stranger or not... my advice is my advice, my opinion is my opinion. I don't tailor it for diffent people or different countries.

I would love to know what the OP plan on telling the CO at her interview.

when the CO ask how much he paying YOU!.

she will say.

CO he pay me every month!

Receipts of money sent are one form of proof of relationship. Don't forget the Affidavit of Support that is required at the time of the interview. I'm not sure what you're getting at.

you know what hell I am getting at!

if it looks like the Immigrant is getting paid. she wont be getting a visa. try that on for quick wits!

the CO will ask 1st question.. " how much is he paying you"?

since your SO. has not had her interview YET - I guess you would not know what the CO experiance is like.

let me see how did Aj say it..

" give the wolves some Red meat "

thats what you are doing when money changes hands.

Edited August 6, 2006 by babybunny

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Your style of vernacular and choice of words would be no different when talking to a friend vs. a stranger (in this case someone from another country)? A friend understands you, knows your style and where you are coming from. I don't think any of us here actually talk to a stranger in the same way we do to our friends. So often (and here on VJ is a perfect example), people misunderstand each other. It behooves us to keep that in mind when we are reading what they say - that perhaps the way you understand it isn't the way they meant it.

Aye, but Steven, this is a US based message board, written in English, for people trying to get visas to come to the UNITED STATES. Sooner or later, they will have to understand the way Americans are, and how English is spoken. It is not for me to understand what everyone from every other countrie means since I am not trying to go to their country.

Stranger or not... my advice is my advice, my opinion is my opinion. I don't tailor it for diffent people or different countries.

I would love to know what the OP plan on telling the CO at her interview.

when the CO ask how much he paying YOU!.

she will say.

CO he pay me every month!

Receipts of money sent are one form of proof of relationship. Don't forget the Affidavit of Support that is required at the time of the interview. I'm not sure what you're getting at.

you know what hell I am getting at!

if it looks like the Immigrant is getting paid. she wont be getting a visa. try that on for quick wits!

Getting paid? How do you differentiate between her fiance sending her support money and him 'paying' her?

[*Robert* 2]

For those who feel the OP is having problems with explaining herself, I suggest they go back and read all her posts. Why is is SHE is the one doing all the research for getting a visa, and not her USC SO? Yes, I realize there are a lot of people on VJ who are not the USC, and have to do most of the work, which is something I still don't understand, but they aren't here asking how much money they should be getting from their bf either!

I find it even more interesting that for a while this thread focused on whether or not the wife would stay home and not work. During all that time, the OP didn't make a peep, other than to support Gary, because on another thread, she had already made her intentions clear.

hello everyone just want to ask...

1) #32 on Ds-156, it says do you intend to work in the US? my answer is Yes , but don't have employer yet, what would put in the box?

2) # 33 on Ds-156, do you intend to study in the US? i would answer that a Yes too, but don't have school name yet.. what would i put in the box? Some say, just put NO as an answer because it might just conflict with your real purpose in arriving in the US that is to marry your fiance.. so i just put NO? it won't matter if my answer is NO on the form but pursue my studies once i get to the US?

thank you, looking forward to replies - aix

Things that make you go hmmmmmm...

[one...two...tree 2,762]

For those who feel the OP is having problems with explaining herself, I suggest they go back and read all her posts. Why is is SHE is the one doing all the research for getting a visa, and not her USC SO? Yes, I realize there are a lot of people on VJ who are not the USC, and have to do most of the work, which is something I still don't understand, but they aren't here asking how much money they should be getting from their bf either!

I find it even more interesting that for a while this thread focused on whether or not the wife would stay home and not work. During all that time, the OP didn't make a peep, other than to support Gary, because on another thread, she had already made her intentions clear.

hello everyone just want to ask...

1) #32 on Ds-156, it says do you intend to work in the US? my answer is Yes , but don't have employer yet, what would put in the box?

2) # 33 on Ds-156, do you intend to study in the US? i would answer that a Yes too, but don't have school name yet.. what would i put in the box? Some say, just put NO as an answer because it might just conflict with your real purpose in arriving in the US that is to marry your fiance.. so i just put NO? it won't matter if my answer is NO on the form but pursue my studies once i get to the US?

thank you, looking forward to replies - aix

Things that make you go hmmmmmm...

Robert, there are some completely legitimate concerns and points made and that was never my beef with this thread. It was the nature in which some people resorted to nasty insults toward her that play up to the stereotype of a young Filipina looking for an Americano to take care of her. Hell, we could start talking about all kinds of visa stereotypes - the foreign man looking for a green card, etc. Yes, there is fraud everywhere - if someone wants to say the Philippines is high with fraud, well so are other countries, but I wouldn't dare to insult or question the legitimacy of those Americans who have fiance's from there.

Why not ask her to get her fiance to join this site and let's get his perspective. Ask her more questions, and of course don't hesitate to have hard hitting questions provided you do so with some decency and respect.

On the flip side of what you just quoted... America is considered a land of opportunity. In many countries, financial mobility is nearly impossible if you are born into poverty. I think it's legitimate for a foreigner to think about the opportunities of living in America that they otherwise wouldn't have. Now the question is whether that has had such an influence into the OP's intent to marry this American. So really what everyone is questioning is whether she sincerely loves him or not. We've got to assume that the guy's got a head on his shoulders and has the capacity to think. Otherwise, nothing you can say to his foreign fiancee is going to save him if she is fraudulent.

Edited August 6, 2006 by Steven_and_Jinky

[john_and_marlene 162]

So often I see posts from those that think there is some unwritten rule that when you log in to VJ, everyone is going to agree with you and tell you how wonderful you are. Who made the rule that I have to agree with anyone and I can't point out an obvious scammer? I'd rather be blunt and accurate and helpful than spending my post time spewing insincere sweet support for every situation.

Which is more supportive?

Post: I'm starving and cold.

Reply 1: I'm sure everthing is going to be just fine. I wish you luck.

Reply 2: Get off your lazy butt and get a job and buy some food and a coat.

Excellent example John. Both of the replies fit the statement, however if you were to post reply 2, you are told you are disrespectful and unsupportive? In that particular example I would give that same kind of advice to a close friend, why should a treat a complete stranger any different?

And just to point out, if people were wrong, or made incorrect assumptions about the OP, why has she not come back and cleared up any of the confussion, rather than only applaud people who have jumped on her side, or make rude comments?

I would say the majority of the time someone gets defensive, or upset, after being called out, indicates that what they did or said, was in fact wrong. I don't feel there was any confusion in what the OP was asking, and by asking it on an open forum, shows that she is mostly interested in money.

"mahal kita walang tae. kailangan ng pera."

I'm also not telling the others to not give their opinions. Seems that it's always the happy rainbow crowd who wants the other side to not be allowed to speak, or to jump on them if they do give their opinion. Sorry....life isn't always nice. If I think someone is doing something nasty - like marrying someone for money or a visa - I'm gonna bloody say so. If I'm wrong, I'll apologize.

I gave the OP 3 links to sites that give advice on Phil/West relationships. If she were more interested in the relationship, she would be posing her questions there, but so far she has not posted there.

[*Robert* 2]

So really what everyone is questioning is whether she sincerely loves him or not. We've got to assume that the guy's got a head on his shoulders and has the capacity to think. Otherwise, nothing you can say to his foreign fiancee is going to save him if she is fraudulent.

I always enjoy reading your posts Steven! I think of you as the voice of reason, and as is the case most of the times, you too make some very valid points. I also think you hit the nail on the head. There is nothing we can do for the USC in this case, except hope that he knows what he's getting himself into.

I want to make it clear, that in my mind, this is not just about what country the OP is from, even though it does have some bearing. It's about what you said... whether this is a bonafide relationship, and that is NOT for us to decide. It is up to her fiance and the CO at the time of the interview, assuming the case gets that far.

And no, people don't have to attack anyone on here. I did respond to the OP, answered her questions, and asked some of my own, but was never replied to. Its a shame this thread turned out the way it did, but unfortunately, often times, this is quite typical in OT on VJ.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

So really what everyone is questioning is whether she sincerely loves him or not. We've got to assume that the guy's got a head on his shoulders and has the capacity to think. Otherwise, nothing you can say to his foreign fiancee is going to save him if she is fraudulent.

I always enjoy reading your posts Steven! I think of you as the voice of reason, and as is the case most of the times, you too make some very valid points. I also think you hit the nail on the head. There is nothing we can do for the USC in this case, except hope that he knows what he's getting himself into.

I want to make it clear, that in my mind, this is not just about what country the OP is from, even though it does have some bearing. It's about what you said... whether this is a bonafide relationship, and that is NOT for us to decide. It is up to her fiance and the CO at the time of the interview, assuming the case gets that far.

And no, people don't have to attack anyone on here. I did respond to the OP, answered her questions, and asked some of my own, but was never replied to. Its a shame this thread turned out the way it did, but unfortunately, often times, this is quite typical in OT on VJ.

Thanks for that, Robert, but I know I can really put my foot in my mouth at times (watch Lisa cash in on this admission).

Let's hug and have a beer.

[Melo 1]

For those who feel the OP is having problems with explaining herself, I suggest they go back and read all her posts. Why is is SHE is the one doing all the research for getting a visa, and not her USC SO? Yes, I realize there are a lot of people on VJ who are not the USC, and have to do most of the work, which is something I still don't understand, but they aren't here asking how much money they should be getting from their bf either!

I find it even more interesting that for a while this thread focused on whether or not the wife would stay home and not work. During all that time, the OP didn't make a peep, other than to support Gary, because on another thread, she had already made her intentions clear.

hello everyone just want to ask...

1) #32 on Ds-156, it says do you intend to work in the US? my answer is Yes , but don't have employer yet, what would put in the box?

2) # 33 on Ds-156, do you intend to study in the US? i would answer that a Yes too, but don't have school name yet.. what would i put in the box? Some say, just put NO as an answer because it might just conflict with your real purpose in arriving in the US that is to marry your fiance.. so i just put NO? it won't matter if my answer is NO on the form but pursue my studies once i get to the US?

thank you, looking forward to replies - aix

Things that make you go hmmmmmm...

Robert, there are some completely legitimate concerns and points made and that was never my beef with this thread. It was the nature in which some people resorted to nasty insults toward her that play up to the stereotype of a young Filipina looking for an Americano to take care of her. Hell, we could start talking about all kinds of visa stereotypes - the foreign man looking for a green card, etc. Yes, there is fraud everywhere - if someone wants to say the Philippines is high with fraud, well so are other countries, but I wouldn't dare to insult or question the legitimacy of those Americans who have fiance's from there.

Why not ask her to get her fiance to join this site and let's get his perspective. Ask her more questions, and of course don't hesitate to have hard hitting questions provided you do so with some decency and respect.

On the flip side of what you just quoted... America is considered a land of opportunity. In many countries, financial mobility is nearly impossible if you are born into poverty. I think it's legitimate for a foreigner to think about the opportunities of living in America that they otherwise wouldn't have. Now the question is whether that has had such an influence into the OP's intent to marry this American. So really what everyone is questioning is whether she sincerely loves him or not. We've got to assume that the guy's got a head on his shoulders and has the capacity to think. Otherwise, nothing you can say to his foreign fiancee is going to save him if she is fraudulent.

This is what I feel too... and I am sorry for what I said to you earlier Robert... I have been reacting...

With regard to the research bit... I have done most of the research work for Paul and me... that is primarily coz I am more of a doer and not a procrastinator. I would like to do some academics too when I am in the USA; I do not see anything wrong in that...

I just feel that we, as a whole can be more respectful and caring of others who join VJ... some may be fraudsters... but as long as you are not providing anyone with information to do something illegal which is clearly not on... other than thatt your suspicions will remain just that - suspicions... and you don't have to answer questions you feel are from people you have doubts about... but to answer them calling someone a gold-digger and suggesting that it is all for the green card... is assuming that the USCIS is incompetent and that the USC is a retard incapable of thinking for himself.

I think we need to be more careful with what we say... if you have nothing constructive to say at least don't be offensive.

Further, let me tell you if I was in the position that this young lady was in I would have probably done exactly what she did... but you don't know how she is feeling inside... she must have felt so small and cheap with the accusations running riot here... but she chose not to run from them... does that make her a fraudster... no not in my eyes...

[Fandango 1,440]

So really what everyone is questioning is whether she sincerely loves him or not. We've got to assume that the guy's got a head on his shoulders and has the capacity to think. Otherwise, nothing you can say to his foreign fiancee is going to save him if she is fraudulent.

I always enjoy reading your posts Steven! I think of you as the voice of reason, and as is the case most of the times, you too make some very valid points. I also think you hit the nail on the head. There is nothing we can do for the USC in this case, except hope that he knows what he's getting himself into.

I want to make it clear, that in my mind, this is not just about what country the OP is from, even though it does have some bearing. It's about what you said... whether this is a bonafide relationship, and that is NOT for us to decide. It is up to her fiance and the CO at the time of the interview, assuming the case gets that far.

And no, people don't have to attack anyone on here. I did respond to the OP, answered her questions, and asked some of my own, but was never replied to. Its a shame this thread turned out the way it did, but unfortunately, often times, this is quite typical in OT on VJ.

Thanks for that, Robert, but I know I can really put my foot in my mouth at times (watch Lisa cash in on this admission).

Let's hug and have a beer.

Aww you missed me, how sweet

[KarenCee 3]

Geez! That lil lady sure opened a can of worms, didn't she! And how often has she been back to post anything substantial other than "thank you for your opinion" type replies? And how many pages has this gone to now...23?