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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Ukraine
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A couple of the documents I need to get translated have writing on the back. Please see attached files. Should I have these back portions translated too?

Thanks!

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02/28/2010 - Talked to Nelli for the first time on Skype

05/08/2010 - Visited Ukraine and met Nelli for the first time in person!

05/14/2010 - Got engaged!

05/26/2010 - Sent I-129F

06/02/2010 - NOA1 Date/Check cashed

06/03/2010 - NOA1 sent

06/04/2010 - Touched/NOA1 Received

06/07/2010 - Touched

06/08/2010 - Touched

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A couple of the documents I need to get translated have writing on the back. Please see attached files. Should I have these back portions translated too?

Thanks!

Yes.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Ukraine
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Yes.

Okay, thanks!

02/28/2010 - Talked to Nelli for the first time on Skype

05/08/2010 - Visited Ukraine and met Nelli for the first time in person!

05/14/2010 - Got engaged!

05/26/2010 - Sent I-129F

06/02/2010 - NOA1 Date/Check cashed

06/03/2010 - NOA1 sent

06/04/2010 - Touched/NOA1 Received

06/07/2010 - Touched

06/08/2010 - Touched

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Filed: Other Country: China
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A couple of the documents I need to get translated have writing on the back. Please see attached files. Should I have these back portions translated too?

Thanks!

It depends on what is on the backs of the documents. If it's just an apostille, no. If it is material to the document itself, yes.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Ukraine
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It depends on what is on the backs of the documents. If it's just an apostille, no. If it is material to the document itself, yes.

Thanks for the reply. Can you please look at the images I attached and tell me if you think they need translated? I'd appreciate it!

02/28/2010 - Talked to Nelli for the first time on Skype

05/08/2010 - Visited Ukraine and met Nelli for the first time in person!

05/14/2010 - Got engaged!

05/26/2010 - Sent I-129F

06/02/2010 - NOA1 Date/Check cashed

06/03/2010 - NOA1 sent

06/04/2010 - Touched/NOA1 Received

06/07/2010 - Touched

06/08/2010 - Touched

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: Peru
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Thanks for the reply. Can you please look at the images I attached and tell me if you think they need translated? I'd appreciate it!

I have no idea what it says at all, and neither will the person who reviews your packet, so I'd translate it. I think the idea behind sending copies of the front and back of documents (as well as every single page of your passport) is that the entire document has to be present in order for it to be a true copy of a legal document. If that's the case, then you should translate the entire document. If they weren't interested in what the back says, they wouldn't ask for it in the first place.

My wife's birth certificate had a bunch of stuff on the back certifying that the registrar who signed it was listed in the national identity registry, was an authorized agent of the state, etc. I translated all of it.

Filed: Other Country: China
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I have no idea what it says at all, and neither will the person who reviews your packet, so I'd translate it. I think the idea behind sending copies of the front and back of documents (as well as every single page of your passport) is that the entire document has to be present in order for it to be a true copy of a legal document. If that's the case, then you should translate the entire document. If they weren't interested in what the back says, they wouldn't ask for it in the first place.

My wife's birth certificate had a bunch of stuff on the back certifying that the registrar who signed it was listed in the national identity registry, was an authorized agent of the state, etc. I translated all of it.

The only document where both sides are specifically requested is a US Birth Certificate as some of them have critical information on the back sides. Many don't. A copy of every page of the US passport, is in lieu of a birth certificate and the every page requirement is for a different reason entirely.

I cannot read the backs of these documents but have seen others from Ukraine that only contain an apostille. There is no need to translate an apostille but this doesn't appear to be one. The ones I've seen contain the word "apostille" in the Roman alphabet. Until you know what the back actually says, by somebody reading it for you, you won't know if it needs an official translation or not.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: Peru
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The only document where both sides are specifically requested is a US Birth Certificate as some of them have critical information on the back sides. Many don't. A copy of every page of the US passport, is in lieu of a birth certificate and the every page requirement is for a different reason entirely.

I cannot read the backs of these documents but have seen others from Ukraine that only contain an apostille. There is no need to translate an apostille but this doesn't appear to be one. The ones I've seen contain the word "apostille" in the Roman alphabet. Until you know what the back actually says, by somebody reading it for you, you won't know if it needs an official translation or not.

Eh, I mistakenly thought that this was in the AOS forum instead of the K-1 forum. I don't remember if you even need the fiancee's birth certificate at all for the I-129F. Sorry about that.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Ukraine
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Okay I appreciate everyone's help!

02/28/2010 - Talked to Nelli for the first time on Skype

05/08/2010 - Visited Ukraine and met Nelli for the first time in person!

05/14/2010 - Got engaged!

05/26/2010 - Sent I-129F

06/02/2010 - NOA1 Date/Check cashed

06/03/2010 - NOA1 sent

06/04/2010 - Touched/NOA1 Received

06/07/2010 - Touched

06/08/2010 - Touched

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Okay I appreciate everyone's help!

The green one says (in Russian)

"Birth Certificate" (on the front)

The back page "MT Goznak" (Goznak printing house in Moscow)

K-1 Journey

02-19-2010: Engaged :-)

02-27-2010: I-129F Sent to CSC via Fedex

03-02-2010: I-129F NOA1, TOUCHED on USCIS website, check cashed

03-24-2010: Received NOA1 Hardcopy (mailed on 03-04-2010, mix-up in the mail)

04-15-2010: TOUCHED on USCIS website, NOA2 (45 days)

04-21-2010: Received NOA2 Hardcopy (44 days since NOA1)

04-22-2010: I-129F received at NVC

04-26-2010: I-129F mailed to the US Embassy in Moscow

04-28-2010: I-129F received at the US Embassy in Moscow

05-24-2010: Packet 3,4 Received

07-20-2010: Interview Date - Approved!

07-23-2010: Visa Received

09-03-2010: US Entry

10-10-2010: Married :-)

AOS Journey

11-30-2010: AOS Forms Sent via Fedex

12-01-2010: Received at USCIS Chicago Lockbox

12-10-2010: NOA1 for I-485, I-765, I-131

12-13-2010: Received NOA1 for I-485, I-765, I-131

12-18-2010: TOUCHED on USCIS website

01-04-2011: Received Biometric appt. for 02-01-2011

01-05-2011: Notified of RFE

01-15-2011: Sent RFE back

01-24-2011: Touched on USCIS website, RFE received

02-01-2011: Biometrics taken

02-08-2011: TOUCHED on USCIS website, transfer to CSC

02-10-2011: TOUCHED on USCIS website, I-765 EAD Approved, I-131 Advance Parole Approved

02-15-2011: TOUCHED on USCIS website, I-485 arrived at CSC, EAD production

02-16-2011: TOUCHED on USCIS website, I-765 EAD mailed, I-131 AP document arrived in the mail

02-19-2011: EAD document arrived in the mail

04-21-2011: TOUCHED on USCIS website, I-485 approved at CSC, Greencard production ordered

04-27-2011: Greencard arrived in the mail

01-20-2013: 90 day Removal of Conditions window starts

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The other document is written in Ukrainian, it seems like a notarization of some kind in Kiev and Kiev region... I think I get the gist of it, but it still looks like gibberish to me, ask your fiancee to translate it for you...

K-1 Journey

02-19-2010: Engaged :-)

02-27-2010: I-129F Sent to CSC via Fedex

03-02-2010: I-129F NOA1, TOUCHED on USCIS website, check cashed

03-24-2010: Received NOA1 Hardcopy (mailed on 03-04-2010, mix-up in the mail)

04-15-2010: TOUCHED on USCIS website, NOA2 (45 days)

04-21-2010: Received NOA2 Hardcopy (44 days since NOA1)

04-22-2010: I-129F received at NVC

04-26-2010: I-129F mailed to the US Embassy in Moscow

04-28-2010: I-129F received at the US Embassy in Moscow

05-24-2010: Packet 3,4 Received

07-20-2010: Interview Date - Approved!

07-23-2010: Visa Received

09-03-2010: US Entry

10-10-2010: Married :-)

AOS Journey

11-30-2010: AOS Forms Sent via Fedex

12-01-2010: Received at USCIS Chicago Lockbox

12-10-2010: NOA1 for I-485, I-765, I-131

12-13-2010: Received NOA1 for I-485, I-765, I-131

12-18-2010: TOUCHED on USCIS website

01-04-2011: Received Biometric appt. for 02-01-2011

01-05-2011: Notified of RFE

01-15-2011: Sent RFE back

01-24-2011: Touched on USCIS website, RFE received

02-01-2011: Biometrics taken

02-08-2011: TOUCHED on USCIS website, transfer to CSC

02-10-2011: TOUCHED on USCIS website, I-765 EAD Approved, I-131 Advance Parole Approved

02-15-2011: TOUCHED on USCIS website, I-485 arrived at CSC, EAD production

02-16-2011: TOUCHED on USCIS website, I-765 EAD mailed, I-131 AP document arrived in the mail

02-19-2011: EAD document arrived in the mail

04-21-2011: TOUCHED on USCIS website, I-485 approved at CSC, Greencard production ordered

04-27-2011: Greencard arrived in the mail

01-20-2013: 90 day Removal of Conditions window starts

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Ukraine
Timeline
Posted

Thanks Varyag. I think I'll go ahead and translate the backs just in case. Better safe than sorry I suppose!

02/28/2010 - Talked to Nelli for the first time on Skype

05/08/2010 - Visited Ukraine and met Nelli for the first time in person!

05/14/2010 - Got engaged!

05/26/2010 - Sent I-129F

06/02/2010 - NOA1 Date/Check cashed

06/03/2010 - NOA1 sent

06/04/2010 - Touched/NOA1 Received

06/07/2010 - Touched

06/08/2010 - Touched

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