Passport as proof of citizenship

[AstroM33 0]

I was just wondering if a passport can be used as proof of citizenship. On the I-129F petition it says that you can use it as a substitute for the certificate of naturalization and such, but what about everything else. Is this the same for the requirement on the I-134 or any other form?

[Alex+R 0]

Yes, you can use your passport as proof of citizenship. Just be careful to copy ALL PAGES of it, not just the name page. It is as good as any other proof of citizenship.

[Mew 0]

I'm sorry. I don't understand. I've just read the instructions to I-134 and couldn't find anything related to that. I think you don't need to send proof of citizenship after NOA2. Am I missing something?

[RosaMystica7 0]

I'm sorry. I don't understand. I've just read the instructions to I-134 and couldn't find anything related to that. I think you don't need to send proof of citizenship after NOA2. Am I missing something?

Maybe it was a typo for I-130?

[Mew 0]

I'm sorry. I don't understand. I've just read the instructions to I-134 and couldn't find anything related to that. I think you don't need to send proof of citizenship after NOA2. Am I missing something?

Maybe it was a typo for I-130?

He filed for K1...

[RosaMystica7 0]

I'm sorry. I don't understand. I've just read the instructions to I-134 and couldn't find anything related to that. I think you don't need to send proof of citizenship after NOA2. Am I missing something?

Maybe it was a typo for I-130?

He filed for K1...

I think this means it's time for me to go to bed.

[AstroM33 0]

No I mean I-130. I did apply for a K1, but it was my understanding that my fianceé has to have an affidavit of supoort from me when she goes to the interview at the embassy in Nicaragua. On the first question it asks how you derived your citizenship. I got it through my parents, but don't have a certificate number.

What about all other forms? Is a passport ok to use?

[kitkat1 5]

No I mean I-130. I did apply for a K1, but it was my understanding that my fianceé has to have an affidavit of supoort from me when she goes to the interview at the embassy in Nicaragua. On the first question it asks how you derived your citizenship. I got it through my parents, but don't have a certificate number.

What about all other forms? Is a passport ok to use?

If you are not a "native born US citizen" and you got your citizenship through your parents, it seems you would have a citizenship number. The form doesn't ask for a copy of your passport or other proof. What is your situation? (BTW, if this is for your fiance, it's for a KI visa - not the I-130 which is for CR1/IRI for spouses).

[Mew 0]

What about all other forms? Is a passport ok to use?

The affidavit of support used by embassies for K1 is either an I-134 or, more rarely, an I-864. You don't need to send a copy of proof of citizenship. Nor for any other form in packet 3 as far as I know. Also, except for the affidavit of support, it's your fiance who will fill out all the other forms needed for the interview.

Edited August 4, 2006 by Mew

[AstroM33 0]

My situation is that I got the citizenship through my parents when I was 15 or so. I did not get a certificate or anything like that. One day my parents simply took me to get a passport photo and then one day my parents gave me a U.S. passport. In 2003 I went to renew the passport and everything went fine.

However, now in the I-134 it states:

If you are not a native born United States citizen, answer the following as appropriate:

a. If a United States citizen through naturalization, give certificate of naturalization number

b. If a United States citizen through parent(s) or marriage, give citizenship certificate number

c. If United States citizenship was derived by some other method, attach a statement of explanation

d. If a lawfully admitted permanent resident of the United States, give "A" number

Obviously I would choose B. and give the citizenship certificate number. However, I don't have one. Does it mean to give my parents' citizenship certificate number? I certainly never received any sort of number.

My only other option would be to choose C. and attach a statement along with a copy of all the pages in my passport.

If anyone can help me on this I would greatly appreciate it. Otherwise I will just go to the embassy in Nicaragua when I go in 3 weeks.

Thanks.

[kitkat1 5]

This is confusing and maybe you do need to go directly to the embassy like you said. It sounds like you will need to attach a statement along with your passport. I would NOT use your parent's citizenship certificate number because it is not yours.

At some point down the road I would assume you will need to get your citizenship certificate number - it's seems rather strange that you don't have a copy of a document showing it and you never know if you will need it again like at AOS.

[Mew 0]

If I understand your situation correctly, maybe these links will help you:

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_828.html

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_825.html

http://travel.state.gov/family/family_issu.../birth_593.html

Edited August 7, 2006 by Mew

[gcox457 0]

My situation is that I got the citizenship through my parents when I was 15 or so. I did not get a certificate or anything like that. One day my parents simply took me to get a passport photo and then one day my parents gave me a U.S. passport. In 2003 I went to renew the passport and everything went fine.

However, now in the I-134 it states:

If you are not a native born United States citizen, answer the following as appropriate:

a. If a United States citizen through naturalization, give certificate of naturalization number

b. If a United States citizen through parent(s) or marriage, give citizenship certificate number

c. If United States citizenship was derived by some other method, attach a statement of explanation

d. If a lawfully admitted permanent resident of the United States, give "A" number

Obviously I would choose B. and give the citizenship certificate number. However, I don't have one. Does it mean to give my parents' citizenship certificate number? I certainly never received any sort of number.

My only other option would be to choose C. and attach a statement along with a copy of all the pages in my passport.

If anyone can help me on this I would greatly appreciate it. Otherwise I will just go to the embassy in Nicaragua when I go in 3 weeks.

Thanks.

There was a case almost identical to this last year. He went 'round and 'round with the USCIS trying to get past the issue that while he had a U.S. Passport, they required the Naturalization Certificate. The big issue for him was that it can take a LONG time to get that certificate....and one of the requirements for getting the certificate was to send in a copy of his passport. Unfortunately....circular or not, the logic of the government forms the rules we have to live by in this process.

I wish you luck, but I strongly, strongly think that you are going to have to produce a naturalization certificate before you can move forward. If you don't, you should count yourself very lucky..and write back here and let us know

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Can you ask your parents if they ever received a citizenship document for you with its own citizenship number, or if you are included on one of their citizenship documents as a minor child when they became citizens. If your name is on a document somewhere - and your parents would have had to submit proof that you were a US citizen in order to obtain your first passport - then see if you can get the number and name of that document from them. Ask them how they were able to obtain your first passport - what application and supporting documents did they use for you.

[kitkat1 5]

Can you ask your parents if they ever received a citizenship document for you with its own citizenship number, or if you are included on one of their citizenship documents as a minor child when they became citizens. If your name is on a document somewhere - and your parents would have had to submit proof that you were a US citizen in order to obtain your first passport - then see if you can get the number and name of that document from them. Ask them how they were able to obtain your first passport - what application and supporting documents did they use for you.

Astro, if you cannot get it from your parents, even if the embassy will work with you, I think you need to file this form ASAP to get another copy so you have it for the future:

http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/forms/n-565.htm